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something I have noticed
Jane Petersen
Something I have noticed since I came into contact with the ideas
about consciously creating, is, I can no longer "fly on autopilot" anymore. Do you know what I mean? It used to be that if I didn't conscously intend something, I could just kind of intuitively go with the flow through life. Now I find that if I don't get conscious and intend for whatever, nothing happens. I just stall out, tread water or whatever. What it feels like is being stuck. I don't know if this is because I am approaching my 40th birthday and that is just a normal consequence of living, or if it is because of the things I have been learning through you all and Abe/Esther. Or both. Is this too goofy a question to ask? Has anyone else noticed that once started on this path of being conscious and intentionally creating life pretty much as you would have it, its hard if not impossible to go back to floating through life? <G> I asked some friends who are older and also into living spiritually about this. The response was that they didn't consciously create stuff, they just trusted G-d/Universe whatever. I am thinking that maybe they are _unconsciously_ creating, though I would not be so impolite to suggest that to them...LOL. Light Jane, NE |
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Re: HELLO!!!!!!
Mick Merlin
Robert Payne wrote:
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Hi Lois, For what it's worth, you always make me laugh. That is a compliment by the way. With all the crap i've been going through, i find you rather refreshing. I love All your posts. Could I say, because their you, I Love you to? Thanks For Being *S* With Love, Mick...... |
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Good Vibes = manifestation
Janelle Kleppin
Got the suitcase -- it was ours. Kid is delighted. I enjoyed the quiet time with her. But it gets better -- on the way home we spied a skating rink -- been up and down that road a hundred times, never saw it back there -- today, got a clear look. YAY -- better yet, when I called them up, the woman who runs it was super friendly!!! Spur of the moment, what the heck it's only money idea and boom -- got a van load of kids and we're off to the rink. WHEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Talk about EXHILARATION -- I adore roller skating, it's my number 1 favorite sport/game/fun thing. Good hardwood floor, something I had given up hope of finding in Texas, and I'm in HEAVEN!!!
Anyway -- this was a manifestation that I've been wanting for SO LONG -- and today it materialized along with the suitcase. It's going to snowball too, because I'm wanting to get back into shape and this is the ONLY exercise besides dancing that I love enough to do for extended periods of time. In 6 months, you won't recognize me. <G> Oh, not that you recognize me now, but I look a little like Rosie O'Donnel and Roseanne Barr. So -- I'm flyin' high -- got something wonderful now to help keep my cork afloat -- I expect a lot of things are going to fall into place now. Thanks for listening -- I just wanted to tell somebody how happy I am right now!!! Janelle |
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Stacey is FLYING!!!!!
Vilik Rapheles
Dear Wonderous Beings...
Talk about lists! Talk about what can happen on a list! As most of you probably remember I wrote a story, "Stacey the Angel's Greatest adventure", when my stepdaughter Margaret was dying. It is a children's story about an angel who comes to earth, lives as a human girl, and then goes back to nonphysical. It is about love, choice, and how much bigger life is than our physical existence. As I wrote I sent out what I was writing on the list, and the responses I got back touched me so deeply, and kept me writing. Thank you thank you thank you from the deepest well of my heart. Then Green, a most thorough editor, edited STACEY and made her into an attachment. (If you would like a copy PEM him at <Green@...> He also has it in chapters that can me emailed.) Thank you darling darling Green! You were and are so easy to work with. And your work is perfection itself. Next an illustrator appeared, someone from my church, who captured STACEY in picture form thrillingly. And after that a publisher, Margaret's mother, who started her own publishing company (Dandelion Seed Press) said she wants to publish STACEY. And now...and NOW...are you ready? The mail just came with a package from Lois. Lois has made an audio of STACEY, with music. The package is sitting here...before me...I am so overwhelmed. I think I have to breath a little before I can even open it. Lois, you are Stacey's angel...an angel's angel. I kiss your hands, your feet, your flipflops. I hardly know what to do with myself. Breath Vilik...breath.... I know...I will listen to it tonight, together with Margaret's mother. Right now I just feel like putting it on an altar or something. I open to embrace all the good that Stacey is doing, the lives she is touching. Thank you dear List, dear Green, dear Lois. ~^^V^^~ |
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david, lists, life.
Vilik Rapheles
It is my personal intention to create a list for the ones that can fully
capture the power of a workshop's ability to uplift vibration, and to teach the family of teacherhow to teach better. This extends to all our loved ones, young and old, from all walks of life,in all corners of the world, in powerful ways, the presence of Abraham in all their Lovingglory, how to more fully and completely know Joy.~~~~~~~ Darling David! Guess what...I think I'm starting a list. A wholistic health related list. I just may be joining you in the ranks of list moderators. I bet you have a thing or two to teach me. Or three or four. I love lists too. My life has changed immeasurably and profoundly since I got on the internet last...October, I think. My first list was the Oxytherapy list, a wild and rambunctious crew who made brilliant discoveries, partied hard, fought hard too, and loved and supported me and even sent me "stuff" in the mail. Then I found Abe. Oh YEAH! Now, I do admit am not comprehending intellectually what is being said by either you or Lois. I am realizing that I go by whether what I write feels like a vibrational match for me to the list, and the list intention. *For me* being key. Might not to someone else but it may for me. I have found other lists to write to about variations on the theme I may be exploring at any given moment. Wonderful people approaching things from a different path. What is actually quite exciting is how many people/approaches are going toward the same goal. For instance I am on a list moderated by a man who went through his "stuff" to get to where I want to go (...am going, am ARRIVED...). Different from Abe's approach but this person is *there*. Right now it does not feel divided to post different things to different lists, because it is internally integrated. It occurs to me as I read what you describe as the intention of the list that workshop energy is "goosed up" by the problems people bring and the way Abe works with each person to lower resistence, to give a different perspective, to bring insight into how to bring the laws into reality in a given situation. I love it when the list does that too...when a "problem" shows up and the list swoops down like a bunch of finger-peckin' Abes and does an "ABE" on it. Thank you, David. I was thinking this morning that if *my* list takes off you will be my hero and role-model. Your clear intention and gracious allowing work together to create a space of soaring and life-enhancing delight. ~^^V^^~ |
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David, lists, and life.
Vilik Rapheles
It is my personal intention to create a list for the ones that can fullycapture the power of a workshop's ability to uplift vibration, and to teach the family of teacherhow to teach better. This extends to all our loved ones, young and old, from all walks of life,in all corners of the world, in powerful ways, the presence of Abraham in all their Lovingglory, how to more fully and completely know Joy.~~~~~~~ Darling David! Guess what...I think I'm starting a list. A wholistic health related list. I just may be joining you in the ranks of list moderators. I bet you have a thing or two to teach me. Or three or four. I love lists too. My life has changed immeasurably and profoundly since I got on the internet last...October, I think. My first list was the Oxytherapy list, a wild and rambunctious crew who made brilliant discoveries, partied hard, fought hard too, and loved and supported me and even sent me "stuff" in the mail. Then I found Abe. Oh YEAH! Now, I do admit am not comprehending intellectually what is being said by either you or Lois. I am realizing that I go by whether what I write feels like a vibrational match for me to the list, and the list intention. *For me* being key. Might not to someone else but it may for me. I have found other lists to write to about variations on the theme I may be exploring at any given moment. Wonderful people approaching things from a different path. What is actually quite exciting is how many people/approaches are going toward the same goal. For instance I am on a list moderated by a man who went through his "stuff" to get to where I want to go (...am going, am ARRIVED...). Different from Abe's approach but this person is *there*. Right now it does not feel divided to post different things to different lists, because it is internally integrated. It occurs to me as I read what you describe as the intention of the list that workshop energy is "goosed up" by the problems people bring and the way Abe works with each person to lower resistence, to give a different perspective, to bring insight into how to bring the laws into reality in a given situation. I love it when the list does that too...when a "problem" shows up and the list swoops down like a bunch of finger-peckin' Abes and does an "ABE" on it. Thank you, David. I was thinking this morning that if *my* list takes off you will be my hero and role-model. Your clear intention and gracious allowing work together to create a space of soaring and life-enhancing delight. ~^^V^^~ |
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Re: HELLO!!!!!!
Cathy
Hi Lopay :)
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I guess you answered my question. So there is a Robert and you are female :) I suppose you don't want me to tell him that you are asking the u for a hunk either? :) :) :) It will cost you. Price? More terrific letters like the following. Love, SilverLaughter Robert Payne wrote: From: "Robert Payne" <loispayne@...> |
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HELLO!!!!!!
Robert Payne
WOW i just talked to another jdc on the phone for the very first time ever.
well, except when david was helpin me pick a puter and i chatted with him. OMG a JDC doesnt sound at all like i thought one would sound like. how funny that a JDC sounds so normal on the telephone. who woulda guessed JDCs were like regular people? ahhhhhhhh what fun!!!!!!!! thanks for making my day. i loved that. now im about to panic. if all of y'all start calling me at home, well.......if bob answers the phone.....PLEASE PLEASE dont tell him that i posted our unlisted home phone number on this list or that his picture is in the jdc photo pics or that abraham is not a for real person like we are or talk about any of this non physical stuff. and for gods sakes dont tell him what kinda stuff i post about you know what. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!! he sorta thinks everyone on the internet is some kinda serial killer ....cause they said it on tv. hehehe..... serial killing jdcs........ hmmmmmmm uhhhhhhh y'all aint really a bunch of serial killers are ya? oh jeeeeeez now what have i done? lo is closet jdc |
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Re: Robert: Language stuff
Cathy
Hi Lopay lo(ve)is :)
Before I get to the nitty gritty of my letter I would like to ask you about Robert. Who is Robert? You are asking the u for a hunk so I am assuming there is no significant other in your life? Alan missed that you are a woman or did I miss that you are a man? :) :) Robert Payne wrote: i certainly feel this message alan.Ok, Lopay. I just reread every one of your letters that I have in my file. What is there to get sick over? They are filled with wit and searching and charm and very few swear words. Your letter of June 4 on channeling Abraham is awesomely insightful. You haven't had a problem expressing nice words. What I do see as a problem is that you took Ball o Light's letter as personal to you. As I recall there were many various odes to sh*t written that day and yours was just one of them. So I am assuming that it was the sh*tload of sh*t words that she found offensive. It wasn't about you or even the list. Everything is about why is my button being pushed here. Everything is about us doing our best to live what is spiritual and sometimes being confused as all get out over what is spiritual, what is right for us/me? Hey those letters brought me " lawn art and stinky snax" man. If I got nothing else that image is priceless for the humor I get. Thanks, Janelle ;) This too will all pass and hopefully we will continue getting the great posts that this list has given me these past few months. I want them all. I want the etherically beautiful ones and I want the earthy ones. I want you as you because if you edit yourself I am going to miss you. If you haven't saved any of the letters you have sent I will be glad to send them to you. If you have them, read them over. You might be surprised at the beauty of many. And you also might get some good laughs :) Laughingly, lovingly, SilverLaughter |
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Respectfully funny
C allison
Did you hear about the Buddhist monk
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who refused his dentist's Novocain during root canal work? The Buddhist monk wanted to transcend dental medication.
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Re: Getting it out
Robert Payne
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For myself, the Abe list gets so high-flying, and my energy gets so up and turned on, I choose (for the most part) to present ideas that will not slow it down, for selfish reasons. I figure what people read in this framework is going to get a big charge of energy, and I want that energy to go to my best intentions. ____________________________ oh yes vilik, i am also torn between speaking out and being afraid of mucking the list vibration. i too have joined another list to post what i dare not post on the jdc list. i havent tried LOL or COL yet but why should another list even be needed to speak? abe aint on the other lists. abe is here. here is where i get my pems from abe. Abe is a big boys and doesnt laugh, get shocked, or cry at our pathetic postings. i love the way david keeps the topic tuned to abe and the advertising out. I love the way he occasionally enhances what comes thru this list to take a thought even beyonder. i love this abespace and feel that as long as david can delete the shit we write that he doesnt want to hear, then we all can do likewise. it is not possible to all agree on the right kinda words, timing, or please every single person whos lurking on the list. but maybe there should be an order of business here and we should not speak what is on our mind. maybe im just a one list kinda woman. or maybe im here because this is as close as it gets to abe. and dont ya just love that abraham? and has anyone noticed that they are gettin a lot smarter too lately........ yep. i think we have been teaching them a thing or two...... maybe they will have to start channeling us. and they gettin louder on the tapes too......having to put on that noise control doohickey when they get on a roll. and are they gonna embarrass esther to death lately or what??? talk about the pot calling the kettle black...... they shouldnt be callin us a bunch of renegades is what i think. so what is the opinion of having diferent lists to post different tones? should we use other lists to keep the abespace here nice and tidy? -----Original Message-----
From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> To: Abraham-Hicks@... <Abraham-Hicks@...> Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 12:10 PM Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] Getting it out From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...>so very important to deliver here.~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Re: Family of Abraham?
C allison
Hi Linda,
I was re-reading this a.m. A New Beginning II. And, I received this info in a new, expanded way....then, I read your post. Page 43 "We are a group of Non-physical beings who are the Non-physical counterparts of many of you who are currently physical...................Again, we call that counterpart your Inner Being. At 09:20 PM 7/24/99 -0000, rlschw@... wrote: From: rlschw@...tapes and been to a workshop. I have a question. On many of the tapes Abraham talks about us being of the 'Family of Abraham'. Do they mean everybody or are there other 'families'? Anybody have any guesses or info. Also, somebody (netpaul?) mentioned Hitler. I have not heard any references on the tapes I've listened to about him. If somebody could give me some idea of which tapes talk about him I would appreciate it. I would love to hear what all they say. I've heard mention of Hitler on many tapes..I'll brouse thru them, and see if I can answer your question....maybe this weekend. At the workshop I went to in Chicago in April 1999, they talk about theshootings in Columbine High school. It was fantastic. Did anybody on the list hear that one? Yes, it was on the weekly tapes.....great stuff! Love, Constance |
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Re: Getting it out
David W. Gordon
Vilik Rapheles wrote:
When I showed up on this list I tried to get it all into "Abespeak", but that seemed to be shortcircuiting some essential need-- to go to theTo Vilik and all here on the --- "Abraham-Hicks" list ---, Ah! What a wonderful opportunity you have given me and all to respond to this subject. Thank you! Yes, indeed, there is an abundance of lists out there. Is it any wonder? They are all free! The advertising posted to the sites and to *each* email pays for them all. Goodie Gum Drops for all! <g> Anyway, what I wish to say here is that email lists normally have definitions at the outset, and Onelist won't even let you start one without it. (I don't think so, anyway). A good email list will have a clear purpose statement and welcome message that *clearly* defines the list owners' intent. This is a good thing, as it sets up the direction for the list as a moving consciousness. We are all connected to the Onelist as one Mind, and also as MANY personalities flowing a single point of focus. This is what makes life, meeting people, relationships, mating and loving, so delicious on this planet. I am happy for this playground and it is why I came here from NP to partake of the many bountiful and beautiful ways to relate and interconnect. Getting back to your point, Vilik, on "so many lists"; I'm on 22 lists and manage 13 of them. I love lists. I have had plenty of experience with the "listserv way" of living as I live it *much* of the my given physical time. As most here know, I met and married via a list... this one. This amplifies the "way of lists" for me. So... to capture the essence of THIS list, and to say why it is here from my perspective as the list "moderator" is easy one. BTW, I do not feel the role of the "moderator", I know better than that... you ALL are moderators, and do that with each post you send. You state the importance of your email to over 200 with each post. It is with what you send that says "here is where I desire you for all to go and what I want you to see of me, and how I have created things, ...", "please help me create more of that by focus on it, or not" is a great reason for this list to be. The Universe is subscribed here, and you speak your desires to It here to this loving group. After all, there is NO list without the subscribers. The list intention was partially restated recently by Chrissy, is merely this: "This email list has been formed to provide a forum for these powerful teachings of reality creation, and so that you, too, can share the gifts Abraham offers with all subscribed to the list. The purpose of this list is to co-create a group consciousness of unconditional love through Joyous Deliberate Creation in order to take thought beyond where it has been before. My purpose as list owner is to provide a virtual playground for the family of teacher to express, create and maintain a higher, purer, faster vibration for themselves by applying the Abraham-Hicks teachings on joyous deliberate creation. To read and explore our successes in this public forum spreads upliftment, joy, and having fun with all of this." I know there are an infinite variety of ways to express in this playground. It is my hope to feel good from reading what I read here, and to go away from the computer feeling that I have enjoyed some quality time to benefit all those I touch and interact with in my world. Above all, my dear DEAR friends, ... It is my intention to enjoy the SAME kind of feeling and experience that is shared at a Workshop. And for those that have had the extreme Bliss that comes from attending a workshop, you KNOW of what I speak! Abespeak? Sure! Abraham *is* spoken here. Questions are asked from newbies and old-bies alike, as life force is drawn through us with good questions. We express to each other, most of all, the love and the feelings that feel good. These are some of the benefits of Joyous Deliberate Creation and that is why this list exists, to remind all here of Joy...even if it is true that we are only sitting here reading a computer screen. Doing that act must be joyous deliberate creation for each of us, huh? I don't think there is any difficulty proving that one!!! You are probably clearly proving that one constantly, daily, and in fact, many hours a day sometimes. It is an important act, and is our mutual love-bond on this list. It is my personal intention to create a list for the ones that can fully capture the power of a workshop's ability to uplift vibration, and to teach the family of teacher how to teach better. This extends to all our loved ones, young and old, from all walks of life, in all corners of the world, in powerful ways, the presence of Abraham in all their Loving glory, how to more fully and completely know Joy. This is Abrahams' core message to me, and why this list thrives and uplifts. Thank you from my heart, my soul, my life force. My Inner Being embraces you. in Love, David. |
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Getting it out
Vilik Rapheles
Lois wrote:
i have been silent so long, it just comes out like that and i cant seem to~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lois, I don't know if this is what you are talking about, or if it relates to it. But it is my experience. When I showed up on this list I tried to get it all into "Abespeak", but that seemed to be shortcircuiting some essential need-- to go to the beginning and just get it out. So I have been writing what has not seemed "Abe appropriate" on other lists. LOL and COL are sister lists to this one, but each has a slightly different slant. Also there is EnAnon, which I haven't been to yet (whew...how many lists can someone handle) and now Soulmate. For me, getting it out, and having at least a few people hear and acknowledge me in the midst of it has been important. The context of ABE makes all the difference. Yes, done it before...but this is different. I think I might say I have an intention that I do it to get through it. But I can only be where I am, so the intention is there, but I can't always see the way out while I am in it. Maybe it matters to get it out with other people who can and do hold the vision and intention too, and who do see the light at the end. For myself, the Abe list gets so high-flying, and my energy gets so up and turned on, I choose (for the most part) to present ideas that will not slow it down, for selfish reasons. I figure what people read in this framework is going to get a big charge of energy, and I want that energy to go to my best intentions. So, that's my experience so far. Love, ~^^V^^~ |
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Re: Family of Abraham?
Robert Payne
david has put the little doohickey for us to click right at the top of his
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JDC list stuff. it will take you straight to the abe hicks sight that has an awsome ahraham search wagon where you can type in a word like death or hitler or bedwetting and it will bring up every tape that contains infor on that subject. if i can do it ..... you know its gotta be real easy too.. im even worse on puters than i am postin proper language. -----Original Message-----
From: C allison <callison@...> To: rlschw@... <rlschw@...>; Abraham-Hicks@... <Abraham-Hicks@...> Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Family of Abraham? From: C allison <callison@...>Being.
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Re: Robert: Language stuff
Robert Payne
i certainly feel this message alan.
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loud and clear. . it also makes me sick to my stomach at some of the things i post here. i have been silent so long, it just comes out like that and i cant seem to find nicer words that are actually heard to deliver the same message that i feel is so very important to deliver here. maybe you dont like my language but you heard me anyway. believe it or not, masturbation in public is not what this is about. thank you so much for you honesty, lois payne 38006 circle drive harrison township, michigan 48045 810 463-3922 -----Original Message-----
From: Alan Birnschein <n20000050@...> To: loispayne@... <loispayne@...> Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:18 AM Subject: Robert: Language stuff Hi Robert,using them. ---It ain't gonna happen. a desire to be loved just the way you are, ...and just the way you do things. Rest assured that you are loved just the way you are, ...and just the way you do things. Then, you ask, why don't I feel it? The answer, it seems to me, is that some people experience your language stuff (by the way, we use foul language frequently in our house, but only in private or with a few very close friends) as a kind of masturbation which ignores the fact that you're doing it in public. You're getting some feedback that that's turning some people off. Perhaps the big Q for you is "do you want to communicate with people in a way that works for them, or do you want to masturbate?"
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Re: closet JDC
In a message dated 7/27/99 2:27:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
loispayne@... writes: << now im about to panic. if all of y'all start calling me at home, well.......if bob answers the phone.....PLEASE PLEASE dont tell him that i posted our unlisted home phone number on this list or that his picture is in the jdc photo pics or that abraham is not a for real person like we are or talk about any of this non physical stuff. and for gods sakes dont tell him what kinda stuff i post about you know what. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!! he sorta thinks everyone on the internet is some kinda serial killer ....cause they said it on tv. hehehe..... serial killing jdcs........ hmmmmmmm uhhhhhhh y'all aint really a bunch of serial killers are ya? oh jeeeeeez now what have i done? lo is closet jdc >> ~~~~~~~~~~~PARTY IN THE CLOSET WITH LO..... (oh and shhhh don't tell bob we're here) Loving you in the closet or out... Nori |
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Re: You and me--U and me
In a message dated 7/27/99 3:18:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngelHeal7
writes: << All that sparkles does not necessarily shine from the depths of darkness where birth pain is your friend here now united in heart never alone holding hands you I love U I love even sparkle-less creation still shines In the ocean of All that is we are together In Divine LOVE we are ONE >> |
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Re: Robert: Language stuff
OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
SilverLaughter, what an appropriate name!! I loved what you wrote to Lois....... it is so superb!! Part of the Abe vibration is ALLOWING This is a forum of human beings............ATTRACTING you can't PUSH AGAINST WHAT YOU DON"T WANT and expect to get what you want if you take the contrast.............and pivot then you are doing your work your only work is to look for things that feel good let me say that again your only work is to look for things that feel good I love you Lois Payne!!!! Without conditions and I love all you other ABers too : ) Love is all RebaGoddess |
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