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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Politically Correct? Me?
Marcia Singer
Course not! Don't think that all the ramifications of this have not
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already occured to me.....lolol My ex-boyfriend is back from the dead, so to speak. I realize that i still have vestiges of the belief that says it's ok for the man to tell the woman how she is faulty and how she must listen to him in order to become illuminated, rather than the woman simply listening to her OWN voice. But considering that my reaction is humor instead of panic, i would say that i deserve to pat myself on the back, which i am doing with much laughter and joy! Love, Marcy So are you saying that you are the one exception to law of attraction?? |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version
That's sooooo cool. Esther is channelling all our Inner Beings. As ONE
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Voice !!!! Called ABE. In Hawaii they call it Our Poe Aumakua - the Collective Utterly Trustworthy Company of Parental or Source Souls . ----- Original Message -----
From: "starseed" <starseed@...> To: "adrienne x" <matrixchickx@...>; "Abraham-Hicks List" <Abraham-Hicks@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version adrienne x wrote:lines.I agree with everyone who has written with this beliefs along these I have decided that since my spiritual guidance right now comes through |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Predictions and choice
adrienne x
I seem to find Astrology, the Tarot, the I Ching, etc. not thatI think I posted about this recently. no, wait, I started to post last night but then closed the window and went to bed instead... so clearly we are in some similar vibration. LOL I agree that I no longer find any of that stuff interesting. I actually find it self-defeating. In fact, I had this conversation with a friend of mine the weekend before last. She wants to find the BEST psychic... one who could give her ACCURATE information about her future. And I said to her that we create our future with every thought and belief so if the psychic tells you something negative, then you dwell on it and create it so they are accurate. If they tell you something positive and you have doubts to begin with, then your beliefs mess it up because of the negativity. (she is very negative however she thinks she is very positive...hmmm?) In truth, I think the only time a psychic can be accurate about anything is when they are speaking of the present. I have very strong psychic abilities, however I have been most accurate when getting the present. I could describe things with detailed accuracy. Moving forward in time, some things were clear with regards to people's behaviors. I got the best focus on a person's future when I saw their behaviors because I could follow the behavior and trace it to the next step. Of course, now I wonder if I was just leading them down a road that they were accepting they were on because of something I did or said. If we create our own future or reality, then predictions undermine us as creators. And actually, by going to a predictor or psychic, we are saying we have no trust or faith. We are in a spot of worry or negativity if we want someone to tell us what the future is, in most cases. I imagine most of the people on this list would probably see that there is no value in predictions. Do these predictions become "reliable" because we end up influencingMaybe not a manipulation but an insertion of another person's belief that will give the one wanting the 'insight' a clear road that they may choose to follow. It is only one of the probabilities. Here is an interesting story... the friend I mentioned earlier who wants to find the best and most accurate psychic married a man who was described to her by a psychic many, many, many years ago. She thinks this psychic was the MOST accurate. Of course, she has been UNHAPPILY married for many years now and harbors TONS of resentment toward him. One has to wonder how the psychic saw the man she would marry but neglected to tell her that she would not be happy with him!!!! To this day, I am highly baffled by this and have decided to avoid psychics because of this! On the same token, then also the most "accurate" psychics are notWhen I was reading last year, I was rarely able to go into the future. I could get all the people in someone's life. I could see them reacting to events. I could see the 'essence' of people and pick up traits and behaviors with great accuracy... but only when the person had some tried and true way of behaving or reacting to something could I see with clarity into the future... as to warn them about their behavior so they would not get what they did not want. Weird huh? I just came to understand that last night. In those cases, I did great readings because their behavior and their beliefs were right there before me and I could see exactly what they were doing... as if I had been their counselor for years but yet I had never met them before. Beyond those cases, the future was VAGUE for me as it was for them. But it is interesting that I could see what they were typically doing to get what they were not wanting which is what prompted them to come to me. Also, I could see the behaviors of those around them to forewarn them of what I saw those people doing. Yet, some events involved others, whosebut through you she probably saw the essence of their nature. And was able to see things that would come about as part of the essence of their nature. Like key behaviors as I used to see. Also, physical stuff like illness can be seen very well by some 'good' psychics. I wonder if that's because it takes a while for the body to manifest the changes from what is going on in the mind and vibrations? Regarding astrology, i find it rather accurate. Always have. I personally think that we come in on certain paths and it predisposes us to behave in certain ways. and we can change these behaviors if we choose. For example, I am a virgo. As a kid I was very interested in astrology. I learned about how critical virgos are of themselves and others. I didn't like that so I made an active choice to not be that way. As a result I look for the best in most people baring someone like my mother who I deal with constantly and see her through a daughter's eyes. Here is where I have to ALLOW and NOT resist. blessings, Adrienne |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Politically Correct? Me?
Mary Straub
So are you saying that you are the one exception to law of attraction??
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Just playing with you. The energy expended on just writing all this information out has a lot of pulling power. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks about me if I feel good. And when my vibration is high and my intention pure, I can only attract like vibration. Whatever I am attracting is always a gift as it enhances my desire to reach for a better feeling thought and let everyone else do the same. Love and Joy, mary ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Singer" <masinger@...> To: <Abraham-Hicks@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Politically Correct? Me? Adrienne,Sometimes we perceive in error and "create" the other person in a distorted way.battle....lol shall stay here and guard the stuff. Someone else can go do battle with thisto me! |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version
starseed
adrienne x wrote:
I agree with everyone who has written with this beliefs along these lines. Adrienne, the more you listen, I'll bet the more you'll believe that Esther is "channelling" you. Rick , |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Predictions and choice
Marcia Singer
Hi Palma,
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As one who has studied the tarot, iching, and runes for about 17 years, this question definitely interests me. I have always seen the oracles as tools for delving into the probabilities of life. For me, whenever i would read the oracle, i would interpret it as "the most probable outcome if things stay as they are." The rub is that as soon as you KNOW about a probable outcome, just your knowing about it changes it (see the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle)! So in a way it has always been for me simply a way of checking out which way the energies are tending to go and thus giving me more insight into how to better either channel them or completely redirect them. I think this applies to people who read for us too...they are simply seeing probabilities and we have choice as to what we do further. When it comes to events which include a number of "others," it gets more tricky. Although i have to say that i can "read" for others much better than i can read for myself. When it's for myself i'm too attached to the outcome to be very objective.... But in the end, it's just a matter of probabilities and nothing more. There is always choice.... As for Astrology, i do believe that Abraham says that we created Astrology to explain ourselves to ourselves, rather than the other way around. We were first and astrology came second as a kind of "instruction manual". But....."the stars suggest, they do not compel." I am a Taurus, and in some ways i'm very typical...and in some ways i'm very Atypical...lolol I do still check on the tarot.....but i always keep in mind that i am the ultimate creator of my own reality and the buck always stops with me....:) Love, Marcy Hello fellow Creators! |
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Predictions and choice
Hello fellow Creators!
I wanted to share these thoughts with you and see if some of you are interested in developing this subject, or have found yourselves pondering along these lines. Since applying the teachings of Abraham and completely resonating with the Truth that we create our reality with our own thoughts, moment by moment, I seem to find Astrology, the Tarot, the I Ching, etc. not that involving any more. The power is in my thoughts, which I can choose and redirect at any given time, so I am wondering what the use and value of predictions might be at this point. These interpretation mediums have been used for countless ages and have been considered very valuable tools to predict trends and events by many wise beings. Now, what I am pondering about is this: Do these predictions become "reliable" because we end up influencing our own thoughts and therefore manifesting the events? If that is the case, then it isn't really a "prediction", more a "manipulation" of thought. On the same token, then also the most "accurate" psychics are not really seeing anything, but just redirecting our thoughts with the power of their own. How can they see the manifestation of something that is completely in our hands by the power of our own thought and choice, and that we can change at any time? Yet, they claim that they "see". Just to give you an example, in my own personal experience, a psychic I was sent to as a gift, and that I agreed to see out of curiosity and fun, told me seven years ago several things that have indeed come true, one recently. Even if I was influenced by her "visions", that would apply only to events regarding myself. Yet, some events involved others, whose reality I could not possibly have created, as I was not thinking their thoughts... Another one: I am fairly well described by my Zodiac sign and Natal Chart, which I read long after I had already formed a clear opinion of myself, so I wasn't really influenced by it in my early years on this wonderful Planet. What is your opinion on this subject? Blessings, Palma |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Politically Correct? Me? Funny one.
lennyrose
Marcy,
I gotta love you, M.! Sidebar. How do you think I got your number to call you Marcy? You don't even see yourself judging me - but others will. The finger you're pointing at me is also pointing where? Take your time. I'm obviously a misguided soul - but I'm growing :~) Lenny I've gotta run to my workshop. Please be kind - ATI isn't finished with me yet. |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Politically Correct? Me?
Marcia Singer
Adrienne,
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I don't know.....lol....i don't know if i'm up for the blast that would probably be created if i came back with something....already he has picked apart my postings, twisting my words and throwing them back at me out of context in order to "prove" my obvious blindness.....lol My way of dealing with it was to remove myself as a target. He is "creating" me according to his own perceptions, which apparently have NOTHING to do with the me that i am. Interesting, because it gives me a new perspective on what actually occurs when we perceive others. Sometimes we perceive in error and "create" the other person in a distorted way. Perhaps you are right about the U requesting my assistance, but i hesitate to put myself into such an elevated status as someone's teacher. In a way it would seem almost to be just like this guy....he imagines himself as my savior, opening my eyes to my own folly. Plus the energy output it would take.....Kinda like Abraham said about lawsuits.....if it takes too much energy, they wouldn't do it. Maybe i've lost my taste for the battle....lol No one else on the list is that way. In fact they seem much like the people on this list....loving, curious, just trying to figure it all out. I remember hearing something once.....there are those who go out to the battle and there are those who stay behind by the stuff.....i think i shall stay here and guard the stuff. Someone else can go do battle with this guy....although i think that he is really just fighting with himself.... Love, Marcy I love it! That is so funny! Can you email me the name of the list? I |
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Politically Correct? Me?
Marcia Singer
Hello All,
I just had a very interesting thing happen. I have subscribed to another spirituality site that has some very wonderful things going on...there is a guy by the name of Dante, a long-time meditator (gotta love those Capricorns), who has been receiving some Source information that sounds "suspiciously" (lol) like Abraham, Elias, and Seth...i have emailed privately with him a couple of times and he is very genuine and guileless. Anyway, there is one guy on the list who has been rather chatting me up for a couple of days (phoned me long distance from LA the other night and talked for about an hour). I perceived (COMPLETELY my own perception) that he was a bit on the path of "i'm so glad to be enlightened, as opposed to these other poor fools (christians) who are blind", but i feel each is entitled to their own path and their own opinions. However, at one point i felt the need to voice a few observations (via the list) that were in contrast to his..... Now i have "turned on him" and he "knows why....and so does All-That-Is." He has exhorted me in bold capital letters to WAKE UP to my obvious faults...one of them being "politically correct"!! (This has got to be the funniest thing anyone has ever accused me of....i am about as politically correct as Howard Stern...although i think i'm quieter than Howard.....lol) I don't think i have ever been attacked with such enthusiasm on the internet before. It's quite fascinating!! The contrast is striking...and i can see myself about 25 years ago, striding about brandishing my sword of righteousness against all the dark forces, confident in my ability to save the Universe from the heretics!!! Ah, a trip down memory lane......:) Life is nothing if not INTERESTING, eh? Love, Marcy ps...i guess you haven't really ARRIVED until you have been flamed, eh? No wonder my car was overheating tonight.....HAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version
adrienne x
I totally agree. Terry Cole Whittiker gave a great talk at the end of herI agree with everyone who has written with this beliefs along these lines. I have decided that since my spiritual guidance right now comes through Esther in the form of Abraham, I would do their CD a week program. This way I am contributing to my continued spiritual growth while thanking them in the form of money. Then I can tithe the rest to myself! LOL. Ah, it's all good. And you know, I'm glad I read this in catherine's book because now I will get the benefits of Abraham's teachings in regularly arriving CDs, which I probably wouldn't have done before. And I'll be all the better for it! What a great deal for me. I am tithing myself with regular gifts of positivity and joy! blessings, Adrienne |
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Re: chewing on liquid
Marcy,
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you nailed it. The way we express the thought is just a medium. Here is some more food for thought: In the end, what matters for the effectiveness of the medium is which way feels best to each individual, depending on personality or circumstances. Some people like to fly, some like to drive. Let's pick the one we like the most, as it will make us happier. To make another analogy in terms of vibrations, let's take colors: white being the sum of all colors, and black being the absence of all colors. One might or might not be denser than the other, but they are still both colors, meaning that they share the same essence. (Actually, elaborating on this, all things in the Universe being pure vibration, ultimately share the same essence!) Ok, so for the purpose of this subject, let's say that they share the same "relative" essence... Spoken and unspoken thought also share the same "relative" essence. In order for the medium to be most effective, it has to be a vibrational match to the user of the medium, in the moment that it is being used. In my case, sometimes the sound comes out spontaneously, in an impetus of enthusiasm (especially when I am driving and listening to the tapes! lol), so it feels appropriate and effective. At other times I follow my silent thoughts and would find having to generate a sound distracting. Some people are more outgoing and a sound feels more natural, others are more introverted and they are best at ease in the silence of thoughts... Because both are only mediums to generate vibrations (the Universe responds to these only. As Abraham says, it doesn't really speak English or any other language!), what we need to focus our attention on, is the way we feel. Just the way we feel. Blessings, Palma --- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., Marcia Singer <masinger@b...> wrote:
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version
I totally agree. Terry Cole Whittiker gave a great talk at the end of her
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ministry where she debunked tithing as an invention of the old religious leaders to get our money. God doesn't need our bargains. Tithing was invented in bible days to make people give thier money to the controllers. It is not a law of prosperity. What it does do when it works is give the person a feeling of being rich. But, anytime someone tithes out of obligation - ar as a bargaining tool - it doesn't work. I tried it and found out the hard way. Then one of my gurus said - " Tithe to yourself " . And that worked. ----- Original Message -----
From: <patricianolan999@...> To: <Abraham-Hicks@...> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version Adrienne wrote:workThis post is primarily directed to anyone who has read the book 'dynamic helpedor workers' or to the spiritually enlightened causes that have helped you dome grow are seth, abraham, elias, and email groups such as these. So how gettingI give or 'tithe' as she calls it in this case??? I thought about buying???the tape or cd a month or even week from abraham, but isn't that with some great wisdom. However--she puts far too much emphasize ontithing--with very broad hints throughout her books that we should send 10 percent ofour income to HER!literally make an exception for that old tithing rule--because it's in the Bible!He said you can tithe by giving joy, kindness and good will to others.that's tithing. If you help a neighbor kid with his homework or give a coat to aon the street and you give her $10 or $20, that's also tithing.church in order to tithe is passe. I prefer helping people in a more direct,personal way. |
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68 seconds or 17 seconds
adrienne x
I did 68 seconds of creating/wanting/visualization a little while ago. What a RUSH! I felt my head tingling like crazy. I did this a lot while I had 'down' time with my formerly broken leg. It was awesome... and I did it on healing, so I healed really well and really quickly. I also did it about a relationship and everything went super well until I went into negative mode. Oh well. I'll get it this time. But I don't always do it with writing. Sometime I like to just watch the movie in my head as it gets pretty good.
I've only been doing this in the evening lately, but I'm thinking it would be really great to do it multiple times a day... when I wake up... when I first get to work... when I am at my coffee break in the morning... at lunch... when I get home... and before I go to sleep! Have any of you done 68 seconds, or even 17 seconds multiple times a day? blessings, Adrienne |
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Re: snapshots of the future
Adrienne,
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first of all I wanted to thank you for being so active in this group! I resonate with you, as I also intend to be a living part of this extended family and your being so present with postings and questions is inspiring to me. =) Coming to this particular topic, you are speaking my words! I am in a similar situation and am doing just like you, launching both wantings out to the Universe and working on the feeling place of both situations. I have to say that I feel good about it, meaning that I have loving thoughts either way, trusting that the U will lovingly deliver what is best for me. And the wanting to draw back that specific person is primarily for the beneficial aspect of an open communication, which was interrupted point blank from one day to the next. I hope he is still alive... So, as I am focusing on both wantings, some questions arise: 1) I can visualize what I want from a relationship in terms of qualities, but when I try to create mental pictures of it.... I don't have a face! I only know the face of the man I have met before, but the "new" guy is a blank, so my VR doesn't FEEL realistic enough.... how to go about it? I can easily create the "feeling" of "as if", but creating mental images is hard. How do you, or anyone in a similar situation, go about it? 2) What about the free will of the "old" guy... Is it ever possible to draw someone back, even if just to reconnect at any level? Is it right to project this "pulling" energy? I'm wondering about that... I mean, if the guy was a true vibrational match, he would have stayed in the first place... My wanting right now, is more in terms of a second chance for a connection, as I am in a different mental place with the Abraham teachings and really see what would happen this time, without obsessing about him as the only man on Earth, although I admit that it would be nice if things went well. 3) Because manifesting a glorious relationship with my TRUE match is important to me, I want to focus my energies properly... Am I giving mixed and contradictory signals to the U with both wantings? Are my vibrations clearly telling the U that I want connection with one and relationship with whomever is best for me, may that be or not be the same person? How do I focus in such a way that my intent is pure and clear, so my HB can lead me to it? Blessings, Palma --- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., "adrienne x" <matrixchickx@h...> wrote:
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searching for the web site
Hi,
I am the software engineer who works on the A-H web site and I'd like to ask for your help. Jerry and Esther would like the A-H web site to be easier to find for people using the www.google.com search engine. There's several things we'll be doing (and your suggestions are most welcome), but the main question we have, is... "If you didn't know about Abraham-Hicks, but wanted guidance, or were looking for this kind of material, what words or phrase would you search for that should bring you to this material?" Already on my list are the following... Manifesting Your Desires Creative Visualization Reality Creation The Law of Attraction The Art of Allowing I'm looking for soemthing midway between really general phrases such as "happiness and well-being" (which could pertain to thousands of sites) and very Abraham-specific terms (such as "placemat process") which take you right to the site but are unknown to novices. Please send your suggestions directly to me (kehoe@...) and I will summarize for the list. -- Daniel kehoe@... |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: chewing on liquid
Marcia Singer
Palma,
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I think this is an excellent explanation. It encompasses not only the aspect of the actual density of an unspoken thought vs a spoken thought (and thus the effect of the vibration), but it also includes the idea of creation, i.e. the pivotal factor in creating being the intensity and feeling of the thought rather than the actual medium through which the thought may be expressed.....or UNexpressed... I'm still interested to see what David comes up with. Marcy Marcia, yours is a really good question. My thoughts on this are that |
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Total Gratitude To ALL of you!
adrienne x
When I found seth, I felt like I had been show a door into a whole other universe. When I was guided to Abraham by friends of seth [ listies, you know who you are ;) ] I felt like I was taken by the hand and led through the door and shown just how beautiful this U is.
I have asked so many questions on this list since I have arrived. And you have ALL given such wonderful guidance. Since my less than a month as part of this list, I have learned so much. It's all just clicking into place and making such perfect sense. And I can see exactly how I got what I got for so many years. I can also see how having perfect gratitude for a broken leg that I got after listening to my IB and giving blood (then fainting down a flight of steps... how I got the broken leg) led me to Seth, then to Abraham, and to this great group. I am truly convinced that gratitude is the most amazing thing. I stayed in gratitude while my leg mended, and I read seth, and I had faith that the U would reveal all the answers to me. My gratitude has led me to this wonderful place, and now I just really want to thank all of you for taking time to answer my questions and help make sense of things that didn't make sense to me. The picture is coming into perfect focus. Thank you! blessings, Adrienne |
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Re: releasing resistance question & unusual release experience
adrienne x
"We were visiting recently with a woman who said Abraham, my daughterThis post is a total blessing! Thanks pilar! I was that girl a hundred times. I always thought what I wanted was going to make or break me. If I got it the U was all loving and caring and kind and generous. If not, it was a horrid miserable place that I just couldn't stand to be! How's that for dramatic? And I can also clearly remember NOT getting ANY ONE OF THOSE DO OR DIE THINGS! And now I see why... it's so clear... it's transparent! I was grateful for NOTHING. I felt everything owed me. I hated everything about my life and let it all ride on this or that dream but never gave the universe a solitary crack in my wall of resistance. My focus was 'I want this and if I don't get it, it will be the end of my world.' Well clearly I kept focusing on the end of my world and low and behold, nothing I wanted under those conditions ever got through! NOTHING AT ALL! And each time I had to pull my life back together again. Yep, I was the QUEEN of DRAMA! Today, I see how much I have learned. I can sit here and think of my two greatest desires and I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT THEM. I focus on them every instant that I'm not doing other things that are required by life or when I'm dedicating myself to inundating myself with abraham, the exercises he has given us, or other readings that focus on positive thinking and properity. But today I can honestly say that 'yes, I REALLY WANT these things. More than I could ever express. But should I not get them, life will go on and I will find some other things I really want in their place.' There is always something or someone else. The universe is so incredibly abundant that there is no way we can go without. And the irony is that I KNOW they are coming. I know that by being okay with whatever happens... by opening this great door to the universe and saying, 'I WANT this, but you know me... I'm doing really great with what I have, and I know more and better is on the way. So you just do what you need to on this one and deliver it however you see fit, and meanwhile, I'll just have fun with all the other great stuff I'm getting and enjoying and having.' I know I'm going to get it. I don't know when... but by being able to say all that and KNOW it to be true, I have just released everything... the U doesn't have to look for a crack. I handed it an open GARAGE DOOR. What's that saying? When you love someone, set them free... if they come back to you, they are yours, if not they never were.... I'd like to amend that....to this....IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, LET IT GO... AND YOU'LL GET IT WHEN YOU GET IT... IF NOT, THEN YOU WILL KILL IT... AND NEVER GET IT ANYWAY. always with the drama, hehehe blessings, Adrienne |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version
Delia Johnson
Patricia,
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You have presented some great thoughts here. I agree with you about Catherine Ponder, to a point. I know she encourages people to tithe & I am sure she mentions the Unity church but never, in all the reading I have done of several of her books, not once have I read that she asks people to tithe to her directly. I do not believe this is her intention at all. As I mentioned on here before, a great teacher who has recently appeared in my life again, Edwene Gaines, says that we are to tithe to 'where we receive our spiritual food/good". What that means to me is if our neighbor is encouraging and helps us keep our vibrations high/supports us in times of need, etc., I will tithe to my neighbor. I do not nor have I for several years regularly attended any church. But if I felt lead to tithe to a church, I would. If I was lead to tithe to my garbage man because he had sparked my leading edge of thought and contributed to my spiritual growth & enrichment, I would!!! I do not care who or what the source, if it is bringing light into my life and helping me to grow in a spiritual way/ helping me to expand my focus & my energy & to float my cork, I will gladly give the first 10% of my income there. I think there is a great metaphysical principal involved here. The idea is that your focus and your attention is on that first amount of income/wealth that you receive. What you contribute back from that shows where your heart/focus is and what you would like to have more of. As for me, if I am being loved, adored, encouraged, taught, enlightened, uplifted, inspired, transformed, stimulated, THAT'S where I want my ENERGY to go. Remember, money is 'curren-cy' - which is flow (current, like water) - which is energy - which is increased by our focus, etc. Connee, maybe you can help me out here. I know you say these things so well and have been studying as long or longer than I have. Anyway, I've put my $2,000,000.00 worth in. I just got my new "Millionaire's License" and plan to put it on my wall with my name on it. If you want more info on what it says on it, email me privately and state personal in the subject. I'll be glad to share it with you. Love & peace, grace & freedom to you all, Delia Isn't it lovely to have a place to come together to express our divine freedom and to expand our focus and our consciousness together??? Wow! We are so blessed! ----- Original Message -----
From: patricianolan999@... To: Abraham-Hicks@... Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] tithing/Catherine Ponder version Adrienne wrote: >This post is primarily directed to anyone who has read the book 'dynamic >laws of prosperity' >I am reading the chapter where catherine >explains about giving one tenth of your income to church OR 'spiritual work >or workers' or to the spiritually enlightened causes that have helped you >grow spiritually. Well, I don't go to church. The causes that have helped >me grow are seth, abraham, elias, and email groups such as these. So how do >I give or 'tithe' as she calls it in this case??? I thought about getting >the tape or cd a month or even week from abraham, but isn't that buying??? I have enjoyed reading Catherine Ponder's books and they are filled with some great wisdom. However--she puts far too much emphasize on tithing--with very broad hints throughout her books that we should send 10 percent of our income to HER! Catherine Ponder is a Unity minister, so of course she thinks people should tithe their income to either churches or to her own ministry. It's always amusing when metaphysical ministers who DON'T take the Bible literally make an exception for that old tithing rule--because it's in the Bible! Joseph Murphy, one of my favorite New Thought writers, said tithing doesn't have to consist of giving ten percent of your income to a church. He said you can tithe by giving joy, kindness and good will to others. If you cook a nice dinner for someone who is under a lot of stress, that's tithing. If you help a neighbor kid with his homework or give a coat to a friend who admires it, that's tithing, too. And if you see a homeless lady on the street and you give her $10 or $20, that's also tithing. I think the idea that we must give ten percent of our income to a church in order to tithe is passe. I prefer helping people in a more direct, personal way. Just my opinion!...........Patricia |
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