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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Being Specific
Kathy
Hi Pen...In my understanding ( for me) they are saying to get clear on the
vibration offered....of course I agree if seeing details helps clarify the vibe...then that works! For me it hasnt always been necessary. Sometimes I have known exactly the details and when I get this...yes, it feels very good to imagine and play with such visions and desires. Saying...I want a new red car with a vibration of ..because I hate my old green car ...is what is not clear...the emotions are mixed. Or saying I want money because I have so many bills . I feel more clarity with a focus on the emotion, for example...freedom, happiness, abundance, passion, excitement... without so much emphasis on how its gonna show up...and was saying that this yields exactly the desired outcome with perfection regarding the teensiest details. I know how I want to FEEL! I do believe that we have individual desires that help us in how and where we would like to flow energy in a particular way....but whether Im sitting blank and vibrating feeling good/happiness, or whether Im seeing in great detail, designing my life and feeling good....the U is going to match the energy expressed and bring me what is perfect for me. " I feel good" ....is clear to the U...and it will match with more! I agree with you wholeheartedly on "to each his own"...whatever works is good! And it is as we each believe. Yes, it feels very good to me that the Universe/God/Higher Self always knows what I am wanting. K |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Being Specific
Well, I can hear the voice of Ester,
speaker for Abe, saying, "you must get clear about what it is you want". This is on many tapes. If the Universe already knows what I'm wanting, then why would Abe say "get clear on what you want". I believe it's even on the 1st or 2nd tape about the Law of Attraction or on Deliberate Creation. So maybe Abe has stated a couple of things that contradict each other. The sentence that felt right for you was that of the Universe already knowing... the sentence that felt right for me was that of being clear about what I want. When you are scripting or doing VB, this is not a vague process. You are writing/seeing in great detail which brings up emotion and good vibes/feelings. What's that game Connee has on her web site about 52 seconds (or some amount of seconds)? How would that game work if you just sat there for 52 seconds and said, OK Universe, you know what I want... give it to me. OK Universe, you know what I want... Over and over for 52 seconds. So do what feels right for you, but for me, visualizing what I want in detail, like it already exists (another thing Abe says to do), is my way of creating and allowing. So, while I thank you for your opinion Ann Marie, if you re-read my post, you'll see it says, "my lesson from this..." Your reply stated: I did not say "us". I said "my".So I don't believe the problem is with us notbeing specific enough. I was just sharing the lesson I got out of it. (not that I don't have work to do on allowing...) Thanks for your reply, Pen --- Kathy <tomkat00@...> wrote:
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Desire
Davida Doherty
Like Tom said, desire means "de" (of or from) - "sire" (God). I *love*Just to let people know... the real root of desire is (and I think this is just as cool) Desire entered English via Old French, but it traces back to the Latin "desiderare." "Siderare" is a derivative of the root "sidus", which is a latin noun for "star." Meaning, that desire has it's root in the stars. Here's a cool write up I just found, that says it much better than I: "desire - c.1200, from O.Fr. desirer, from L. desiderare "long for, wish for," original sense seems to be "await what the stars will bring," from the phrase de sidere "from the stars," from sidus (gen. sideris) "heavenly body, star, constellation." " How cool is that? Davida |
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Any deliberate creators in Paris, France?
jd
I'm curious - other than Brigitte, are there any other members of this
list who live in Paris, France? You can email me direct at jd33j@... if you prefer not to post. Thanks, Jon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes |
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Thanks to all
msk81160
I wanted to thank everyone who posted to my message (a Little help
Please), I was very warmed with all the responses and I must say it helped dearly. The viewing and funeral went very well and though there were times when I was talking to someone where I lost my good vibe I did manage to get it back. As for my son, he is doing very well. Bless you all. Deb |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Being Specific
Liz Kelso
Can we talk more on this allowing thing?
When Abe says we are not allowing 'it' to come into our lives is he only referring to material things or is he also referring to people or conditions (health, moods)? In that event, being specific about wanting a certain person to come into your life would be against the others free will, where as if you state you would like a certain 'type' of person to come into your life then you can allow for that. I've been asking for something, and it seems to be creeping to me. Therefore I must not be allowing it, but I'm unsure as to how I'm not allowing it, what is blocking me? My thoughts? My actions? Can I get some insight. Please. Dear Pen, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment. I do not think that the reason you won only $2 was because you were not specific enough. This is something I hear a lot from people with various kinds of new age/spiritual backgrounds -- and Abe disputes it pretty consistently. What Abe says is, "The Universe already knows what you are wanting." Because it has noted "every time you have yippied and yahooed." In other words, the Universe is fully and completely aware of EXACTLY what we are wanting, all the time. So I don't believe the problem is with us not being specific enough. I think it has to do with our level of allowing. If we are not allowing something to come, then no matter how hard the Universe tries to deliver it, it cannot come. Which is why they changed the name from "The Science of Deliberate Creation" to "The Art of Allowing". It's ALL about ALLOWING. Like Tom said, desire means "de" (of or from) - "sire" (God). I *love* that!! When you ask, it is immediately delivered, no exceptions. Asking is the equivalent of receiving. I would take that $2 as a bit of fun evidence that what you are wanting is on its way. You just have to increase your ALLOWING. Ann Marie ----------------------------------------------- Upcoming Abraham Workshops: Ashland, OR 7/20/02 Sacramento, CA 7/27/02 ----------------------------------------------- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to **W髄akhota Liz Kelso** Mitakuye Oyas'in (we are all related / all my relatives ) - Lakhota belief --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Being Specific
Kathy
I agree with Ann Marie. When I was "creating" my relationship...the perfect
mate for me....I did not have one thought about anything other than how I wanted to feel when we were together. At the time, it just didnt occur to me because I was so focused on the emotional aspect. Other than that I offered nothing. But when he appeared, he was so many things that I adored....the perfect height, build, interests, tastes....all bundled up in one scrumptious package. yumyumyum. The most clever thing though was that he was only 22 and still like to skate-board, boogie-board, do wheelies on bikes and such....a real "kid" still.....Which was unbelievably PERFECT , even though I had never thought about that....but I had a 6 year old son at the time who longed for an father who would get down and play with him! This was even better....a stepfather who was still playing himself! Now that my son is 17 and my husband 33 they're into the same alternative music and have basically grown up as pals together. The Universe...God....Collective Consciousness....KNOWS how and what to deliver..down to every last detail, even better than we can imagine ! Sometimes we get the details before- hand and its just a great joy to know and feed our creative process...but not a necessity for receiving perfection. Trust! K IWell guess what.... I won! BUT (there's always a but), I only got 2 thegot it and then some.Dear Pen, reason you won only $2 was because you were not specific enough. This is |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Compassion
catherine solange
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I think it's a huge (but enjoyable) re-ordering of one's entire thought structure to accept that there is NO intrinsic value to helping or being of service other than the immediate pleasure it provides ONESELF. It goes counter to all we have been taught. I clearly recall a moment in time as a teen-ager when I prayed deeply and sincerely to be of service. I wanted that more than anything. It's still shocking to me that the WAY I can now do that most effectively is to have fun. To acknowledge that all is well, all is being perfectly managed by LOA. To surrender to that which is already perfect instead of striving for goodness. To selfishly prosper in every way. Here are some hypotheticals I am having fun getting my thoughts around: An average Beverly Hills Bimbo (whoever she might be--a composite of several I know) who spends her mornings at the gym, her afternoons by the pool, her late afternoons getting her nails done and her evenings at movies parties.....all very HAPPILY, pleasurably, prosperously, graciously, gratefully.....is being of service. She is a portal to pleasure and ease. She has never even heard of SOM or Abe or Seth. Yet she is serving, perhaps far more powerfully than someone in a more obvious position of service: minister, director of organization to benefit those suffering from a particular disease, especially if they are grumpy, overworked, stressed out and not having any fun. (which in my observation is many times the case.) If Esther were to decide she no longer wanted to give seminars, just drive around the country in the monster bus to take photographs instead, as long as this decision thrilled her, she would be of equal "service". Only our happiness and capacity to have fun serves. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS! Isn't that funny? and delightful? and shocking somewhat? "Raising the vibration of the planet" strikes me as part of the old striving, struggling paradigm. The planet is already perfect. All you need to do is enjoy it, whatever form that takes. If Mother Theresa were to decide to come back as Xavier Hollander (the Happy Hooker) would she be of less service? I think the hierarchy is only in our limited thinking. I sure love receiving help from friends and mutually opening portals for each other. It's a different relationship though from my old ones that were born out of my need to be of service. I call it hanging out with my pals. And you are a wonderful e-pal, Catherine. ----- Original Message -----
From: Connee Chandler Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:52 AM To: abe list Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Compassion Hi, Friends, I really love Cary and Catherine's distinctions between playing God and playing Savior. It suits me intellectually just fine, and is delightfully amusing, but it doesn't yet cover something I really value in my experience, so I think it needs tweaking for me to integrate it into my cosmology. What I've discovered is that "helping" for me not only survives the gateway between Savior and God but actually transcends anything I knew before into a whole new experience of shared bliss. I call the new version, Peer Mastery. I have friends who daily help me remember that reality doesn't mean diddly squat and to remember to refocus again and again on what I am wanting in the bigger picture. I daily help them to do the same thing. It's a very big win-win, a grand game of giggles and huggles and lovingness, which is probably quite revolting to people in other vibrations to watch. LOL Peer mastery has two necessary components. Peers and mastery. Peers in misery just isn't the same thing at all. <grin> And the peer we approach to share mastery with can be an author in a book, dead or alive, a contemporary teacher, minister or speaker, or any random loved one or friend. To work with taking the idea to a more expanded level does not require convincing the originator of the idea in your experience that he or she is wrong. You can take an idea offered by anyone that doesn't feel quite right yet and talk to someone else about it to take it to a higher level. You can even take it in your own mind and play with it. Once the idea is loose in the ethers, anyone gets to leap frog with it! Maybe that's why playing at the level of the ethers is so liberating and allows so much more energy to flow...? Perhaps the Gateway beyond playing God is simply being God. And I wonder what comes after that! Being? And after that, endless whatever... <grin> It is really helping me to rethink my attitudes toward a whole lot of stuff I used to push against in my world. As I can embrace more of all that in love, and formulate my new vision in ways that allow me to communicate more of all the beauty I see, I believe I raise the vibration of the planet I get to play on, and that is my intention, so it makes me even more joyful. I don't need to address whether that is the planet anyone else gets to play on. As I get more multidimensional in my thinking, all those possibilities expand far faster than I can think yet easily. So I go back to focusing on what is happening in my own life. It's quite restful in comparison. I am finding that it has been really tempting to me to throw a lot of babies out with the bathwater as I reach a new understanding. For example, if I disrespect helping as solely representing playing the role of savior, I disrespect the value of all the help I have received in my life, and come from a place of less gratitude. Not what I am wanting. Friends of mine have been helping me learn to moderate this tendency. And the Abe teaching that serves me best is to remember that "in all things there is that which I want and the lack of it." My work is to focus on the "That which I want" part of everything and simply release my desire, need, compulsion to look at or talk about or ponder the rest. Better said, following that instruction to the letter, my only work is to focus on what I want. And it sure helps me to have friends with the same intention! Ever increasing gratitude for all the help I have received, and continue to receive, along the way is a bigger and bigger proportion of my vibration. The help I receive from others in opening portals for me is irreplaceable in smoothing and making my evolution more joyful. Perhaps all evolution more joyful. That feels good to me! Love in, and through, and as, and all around, Connee ----------------------------------------------- Upcoming Abraham Workshops: Ashland, OR 7/20/02 Sacramento, CA 7/27/02 ----------------------------------------------- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Being Specific
Ann Marie Michaels
Well guess what.... I won! BUT (there's always a but), I only got 2 numbers right, so I won a whooping 2 dollars! LOL I had to laugh out loud because the Universe did give me what I asked for. I did win the lottery, just not the biggest prize... the top jackpot.Dear Pen, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment. I do not think that the reason you won only $2 was because you were not specific enough. This is something I hear a lot from people with various kinds of new age/spiritual backgrounds -- and Abe disputes it pretty consistently. What Abe says is, "The Universe already knows what you are wanting." Because it has noted "every time you have yippied and yahooed." In other words, the Universe is fully and completely aware of EXACTLY what we are wanting, all the time. So I don't believe the problem is with us not being specific enough. I think it has to do with our level of allowing. If we are not allowing something to come, then no matter how hard the Universe tries to deliver it, it cannot come. Which is why they changed the name from "The Science of Deliberate Creation" to "The Art of Allowing". It's ALL about ALLOWING. Like Tom said, desire means "de" (of or from) - "sire" (God). I *love* that!! When you ask, it is immediately delivered, no exceptions. Asking is the equivalent of receiving. I would take that $2 as a bit of fun evidence that what you are wanting is on its way. You just have to increase your ALLOWING. Ann Marie |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: Economic Collapse
Kathy
Anna Marie, you cant get it wrong!
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regardless, no judgements.......We are safe here on this list and in all ways. The truth is we are all much more than we post on any list! I appreciate your candor and courage always for standing up for what YOU believe, especially in the company of all the chocolate and donut lovers. BTW, I actually thought of you today while eating a big bowl of steamed brussels sprouts for lunch...I said, hello Anna Marie, there in my brussels sprouts! K I had a `bad' week last week. A little PMS and too little plant food! |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Compassion
Connee Chandler
Hi, Friends,
I really love Cary and Catherine's distinctions between playing God and playing Savior. It suits me intellectually just fine, and is delightfully amusing, but it doesn't yet cover something I really value in my experience, so I think it needs tweaking for me to integrate it into my cosmology. What I've discovered is that "helping" for me not only survives the gateway between Savior and God but actually transcends anything I knew before into a whole new experience of shared bliss. I call the new version, Peer Mastery. I have friends who daily help me remember that reality doesn't mean diddly squat and to remember to refocus again and again on what I am wanting in the bigger picture. I daily help them to do the same thing. It's a very big win-win, a grand game of giggles and huggles and lovingness, which is probably quite revolting to people in other vibrations to watch. LOL Peer mastery has two necessary components. Peers and mastery. Peers in misery just isn't the same thing at all. <grin> And the peer we approach to share mastery with can be an author in a book, dead or alive, a contemporary teacher, minister or speaker, or any random loved one or friend. To work with taking the idea to a more expanded level does not require convincing the originator of the idea in your experience that he or she is wrong. You can take an idea offered by anyone that doesn't feel quite right yet and talk to someone else about it to take it to a higher level. You can even take it in your own mind and play with it. Once the idea is loose in the ethers, anyone gets to leap frog with it! Maybe that's why playing at the level of the ethers is so liberating and allows so much more energy to flow...? Perhaps the Gateway beyond playing God is simply being God. And I wonder what comes after that! Being? And after that, endless whatever... <grin> It is really helping me to rethink my attitudes toward a whole lot of stuff I used to push against in my world. As I can embrace more of all that in love, and formulate my new vision in ways that allow me to communicate more of all the beauty I see, I believe I raise the vibration of the planet I get to play on, and that is my intention, so it makes me even more joyful. I don't need to address whether that is the planet anyone else gets to play on. As I get more multidimensional in my thinking, all those possibilities expand far faster than I can think yet easily. So I go back to focusing on what is happening in my own life. It's quite restful in comparison. I am finding that it has been really tempting to me to throw a lot of babies out with the bathwater as I reach a new understanding. For example, if I disrespect helping as solely representing playing the role of savior, I disrespect the value of all the help I have received in my life, and come from a place of less gratitude. Not what I am wanting. Friends of mine have been helping me learn to moderate this tendency. And the Abe teaching that serves me best is to remember that "in all things there is that which I want and the lack of it." My work is to focus on the "That which I want" part of everything and simply release my desire, need, compulsion to look at or talk about or ponder the rest. Better said, following that instruction to the letter, my only work is to focus on what I want. And it sure helps me to have friends with the same intention! Ever increasing gratitude for all the help I have received, and continue to receive, along the way is a bigger and bigger proportion of my vibration. The help I receive from others in opening portals for me is irreplaceable in smoothing and making my evolution more joyful. Perhaps all evolution more joyful. That feels good to me! Love in, and through, and as, and all around, Connee |
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Re: Economic Collapse
plantvitality
I had a `bad' week last week. A little PMS and too little plant food!
I am both remorseful and glad I responded to the post to Rick about Economic Collapse; not because I'm proud of myself, as I have been in other posts, but because I exposed a lot of fear-based thinking that I've unconsciously accepted as truth. It `kills' me to see quoted bits from that post showing up in a lot of places, because its hard to believe that I wrote and continue to think like that. But important to see. I am making important shifts in terms of self awareness and understanding. I have had difficulty seeing how deeply ingrained are many fear-based concepts and it is holding onto to these fear based concepts that is keeping me from writing with true power or wisdom, particularly in the area of health. I really appreciate those members of this list that responded to my post helping me see what lack of joy I put out or take in, by fearful thinking and projection. The reason for our existence is linked to our becoming aware and letting go of fear-based programming and I think that the communication I've had with this group has been instrumentally important in helping me become aware of my thinking processes and limitations. I haven't spent too much time wallowing in the fact that I exposed faulty and negative thinking (which reflects a huge shift all on its own). I am so intent on personal evolution that revealing limited and negative thinking on my part kind of thrills me once being ashamed of being `faulty, wrong and inadequate' runs its course. It's like finding that missing piece of a jigsaw puzzle. Revealing myself to myself can only benefit myself and everyone associated with me. It's what we don't see about ourselves that limits our evolution. Expression of self is important and not always pretty. I would rather reveal myself and my thinking than write to make myself look good (although being seen AND looking good is a vision I hold for myself and a choice I am making). I won't always embarrass myself in order to evolve, the angels assure me. I do have the intention to experience enlightenment in this lifetime (knowing I am enlightened at any moment I believe myself to be). So I am less concerned with creating a good image than expressing myself so all parts of me can be brought to the light under the possible discomfort of self and public examination. Anna Marie (with more good intent than what might appear) |
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thankU
Kathy
I would also like to give CREDIT to this list...all of you... for being such a SOURCE of WEALTH of insight, wisdom, joy and valuable information ....on my path in re-connecting to knowing TRUE ABUNDANCE! Thank you for your participating in the return of a missing part of me back to myself....through you...the portals of LOve.
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Shaking off reality?
Kathy
"REALITY DOES NOT MATTER!"
Hi all....this is such music to my ears....how about you?Because I live in my dreams......"butterflies and zebras and moonbeams and fairy tales" ....have occupied my life most of the time! I can now appreciate it. I am Basking in appreciation of myself today! Dare I admit? Yes, I dare! I woke up thinking about my children and just how delicious they are...how delightfully sweet, how their lives are so full, and imaginative and how well-adjusted they are....they even know how to "act" mannerly when the time calls and are loving , caring human beings....and so I decided at that thought that its about time I give myself some CREDIT! And then I immediately had the thought .... that I HAVE GREAT CREDIT in the Universe ....great , great , great.... so much CREDIT.... my joy is MOTHER ...this is what I do and I AM GOOD at it! Glory be me! I have never EVER acknowledged that ! It felt so free to think it. Most of my life Ive been so busy comparing myself to others, seeing what I "dont" have in a career or paycheckd....that I havent allowed myself to feel/appreciate alot of the good and worth, and value that IS me. Tears of joy streamed down my face.... my heart was so full of appreciation that I thought I would burst. I picked up my pen and wrote: Thank U...Every day is a new beginning! It felt like I had pulled up the shades and was Basking in my own light. Well, just thought Id share this..... I am in the midst of a changing consciousness and it feels good. Today is beautiful and we're off to a "berry-picking" farm ....to enjoy the sunshine, each other and the sweet treats of Mother Nature. Following BLiSS....and seeing/feeling all of you there too! Kathleen
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Shaking off reality?
Hi Tom,
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd like to try one. Is Byron Katie an author of a book that has this "inquiry" process? Can you give myself and the group here the 4 questions? Thanks for your input & love, Pen **** I would highly recommend the four questions __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Shaking off reality?
Liz Kelso
A list would be FANTASTIC! I'm new to the whole Abe
thing (only a few months) and I have to tell you that reality is just a killer for me. Liz --- Ulrike Haupt <rica@...> wrote:
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Sara3 & bergland
It was fun to see in the forward of Sara 3 that Tom
and his minions are noted & spoken of with joy and love. Great work Tom!!!! Our hats are off to you for the great work you're doing with your kids. We had a new Art teacher in our workshop this weekend and I thought of you and your work in the bay. Basically Abe told him to get his students connected before they try to create because everything flows from source. Tell them to bring a book to read if they arent. We had a great workshop here in Portland. All is well!! LLL gordy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes |
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Sara 3
kjplanb
Good Morning All,
I finished Sara 3 last night and all I can say is WOW!!! - This is one of the best pieces of literature that I have EVER read. What a wonderful gift! Seems to me that everything that we have learned over the past 3 years has been summed up perfectly in this book. I found myself laughing and crying. I found myself in the highest vibration I've felt in a long time while reading the book and today I feel reborn... OK...just wanted to share my excitement.. Wishing everyone a FANTASTIC day and remember ALL IS WELL! |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] A 'real' VR
Thank you, Maija!!!
I was there with you, babe ;) Blessings, Angel Wendy On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, maija ruman wrote: I'm alone in a boat that is rocking idly in the middle of the lake, the motor off, the wind gently blowing me toward the distant shoreline. But I don't care, because I will be on my way again long before I have to concern myself with the snags in the shallows. It is a moonless night in summer. There are no electric lights visible, no sky-glow from a nearby town. The road that crosses the dam is very far away, and at this time of night hardly any cars pass. Above me, the stars are bright in the dark sky. I hear a soothing cacaphony of distant insect-song. The mosquitoes were left behind along the shore. They can't get to me here. I gaze about me, relaxing. The breeze continues to ruffle the still water, wonderfully cool after the heat of the day. A fish jumps, and lands with a splash. The hills surrounding the lake are thickly covered with trees, and it's so completely black in their shadow, that there's no reflection indicating where land meets water. But that doesn't bot!her me, because every little inlet and promontory are all known to me. I know where my cabin is, where my baby is lying asleep. I will return shortly. Just a little longer. A night-bird cries in a hoarse voice and swoops over my head. I follow it's flight until I lose it in the darkness. I turn the boat motor on. It's time to go home. LOve, Maija |
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