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from Jon

jnd 33
 

Hi guys,

Those of you who enjoyed my comments on feng shui, thank you.

Those of you who thought I was being a bit too negative about it, thank
you also, for your feedback.

Let me try to clarify my remarks a bit more -

If you want to do feng shui as an experiment, to see if it magically makes
your space feel better, and play with it without great expense, and you
don't worry about a lot of things you "should" be doing, then it's no big
deal.

But my point is that if you multiply too often that attitude of relying on
someone else to tell you how you "should" design your space or do something,
and repeat it again and again, you end up giving away your power to someone
else who is supposedly wiser that you, and who might become a crutch for
you.

In other words, if we often seek out the guidance of an astrologer, a feng
shui expert, a psychic, a dietary adviser, etc., we are sending a message
to the universe that we don't trust our own instincts and desires. We tell
the universe and ourselves that we don't believe that we have infinite
wisdom inside ourselves, or that we don't want to learn to access it.

For example, if you're looking for a new home and you visit places and you
find one that feels good, trust your feelings, even if it has bad feng shui.
Conversely, if you find a place that has the "correct" feng shui with the
mountain at the back and the water in the front or whatever, and you ignore
the bad vibes your heart or gut is giving you, you're probably going to be
unhappy there...

A place can have bad feng shui and still feel great for you. The so-called
bad feng shui doesn't have to affect you any more than "bad" foods have to.
We control what happens. Our hearts and inner guidance are much more
important than what some "expert" says about which corner of the room should
have what, how much vitamin C we should take, etc.

The fact that feng shui, astrology, etc. have been used for centuries
doesn't impress me. I have been all over asia and have seen loads of people
who use feng shui who are very unhappy. And the people I've met who are
seriously into astrology are so paralyzed without it that they end up taking
fewer and fewer decisions without consulting their astrologer. Remember that
Hitler, Mussolini et al used astrologers to guide them; with unimpressive
results.

The problem of most of mankind over the centuries is that they didn't know
they had vast power, so they sought out superstitions, rituals or rules from
"experts" to live by. With the Shift, more and more people are discovering
their power and freeing themselves from dependency on dogma, superstition,
gurus, experts, etc....

My friends, if you find that trying feng shui, or eating certain foods,
etc. at modest cost makes you much happier and it works for you, I'm happy
for you. No problem.

If on the other hand you spend a lot of money getting feng shui advice,
changing homes simply to find "better feng shui", buying the most
complicated vegan foods and dozens of expensive vitamin/mineral supplements
when your body is really telling you it would like more cheeseburgers, pbj
sandwiches, lasagna or whatever, then I honestly believe you're
unnecessarily complicating your lives and giving away your power. See the
difference?

I'm not against small crutches if they help. My concern is to not let them
grow into bigger crutches, because then your "muscles" will atrophy and you
will become very much dependent on the crutches.

Bottom line, may I humbly suggest that we consider our inner guidance to
be our main expert for all our decision making, and put all other "experts"
in a much more limited role, if any.

Light and joy, Jon


prosperity wishes

Carla DeMarco
 

I'll put a copy of this on the list so that others can send you
helpful
energy also.

Lots of love, light and joy, Jon
Dear Carla S.,

Not knowing how new you are to Abe techniques, I don't know if you know
this one, you probably do, but in case you don't, I use it and it feels
SO good and is SO much fun, I highly recommend it.

Start a list and spend $1000 today. Just write down what you would spend
it
on. Tomorrow add $1000. The next day add another $1000. Pretty soon
you'll have
houses all over the world and be giving to all your relatives and
favorite charities and swimming in great feelings about your level of
prosperity.

I haven't been doing it long, but I've noticed a difference in how I
feel now around that subject. It's been a biggie for me too. But I trust
the Universe is delivering everything in perfect timing.

It can be so hard to let go of the worry. It might help to sit down and
make a list of all the things that are going right, that you have. And
to think of all the people you know who have money and aren't fulfilled.
You have something so much better than that - a soaring spirit! People
who love you! A WAY to create all the money you want! You can have it
all!

I know there are more techniques for this money thing. Perhaps some
others will
share. Then we can make a Money Files. Yup. Or maybe Connie has
something
about this in her course, I dunno -- haven't had time to check it out
yet. As
soon as I make some more money, I'll have more free time, heh heh, then
I'll do the
course. OK, I know David, see it as MINE NOW, not LATER. Okay, Carla,
I'm
sending you a huge envelope stuffed full of hundred dollar bills. There
you go.
Check the mail today! It's there NOW!

Love,
NM Carla


Help! I need a pep talk

Ilana Goldman
 

Hi Carla,

I love it that you have chosen to be so brief in your discription
of the contrast.

You asked for a pep talk. How about it if instead I pretend to be
in your shoes and give myself a pep talk (or actually, do a focus
wheel...) It works better for me... :)

I think I'd write something like this:

"In every moment, regardless of circumstances, I have the freedom
to choose which path to follow. I can choose the path of fear and
stress, or I can choose the path of joy. While both are valid
choices, I prefer the path of joy simply because it is more
pleasant. I know for a fact that there is no advantage in going
the other way...

To get on the joyful path, all I need to do is find a way to
sooth myself. I like it when I feel good. I like it when I feel
appreciative. I like it when I feel loving. I like the idea of
allowing myself to focus for a while on those things that are
going well for me. For example, I love having a support group
that I can trust to offer me loving, soothing words. I love the
idea of getting LOA to help me in finding thoughts that feel
better, because all I need to do is ask for such thoughts and LOA
start to deliver... It is so nice that in the matter of thoughts
and feelings the delivery of matches is always instantanous!

People are often asking for peace. I would not want a peaceful
life! Peace is only attractive from a place of struggle. What I
want is to have a sense of purpose, to feel eager, to have
passion, to be fully alive! In other words, what I want is to
have intense desires that are calling to me. I like the idea of
thinking of myself as being in a perfect place for the launching
of such desires. I love knowing that this is an endless process
and I can always count on a new contrast to produce a new desire.
I love being in this place of unfulfilled desires, always having
something to look forward to.

Right now I have an intense desire for ease and abundance in my
experience with dollars. I appreciate the contrast that gave
birth to this desire, and now that it has done its work I am
ready to release it from my attention, and give my attention to
matching my desire.

Since thinking of dollars takes me right back to the contrast, I
think I will focus instead on reaching for the feeling of ease
and abundance. What do these feelings feel like?

Like lying on the beach and feeling the warmth of the sun on my
face and thinking of this mind boggling ball of fire sending its
gifts of light and warmth to me. No matter how long I lay here,
my soaking up of these life giving rays does not diminish their
availability to me and to everyone else...

Like the love within me that I flow toward me loved ones. The
more I flow, the more I feel it growing within me!

I like these feelings of ease and abunance. I like the idea of
looking for opportunities to enjoy them because they feel so
nice.

I like the idea that it is not my work to change the nature of
the manifestations. My work is to give my attention primarily to
those manifestations that please me. My work is to keep myself in
a happy place.

I like the idea of trusting LOA to take care of the
manifestations and inspire me to action if and when they are
needed.

I like the idea that there is no risk here, that every moment is
a new beginning and a new opportunity to choose happy thoughts
which LOA must match with happy circumstances.

I like the idea that all is very well."

With abundant love,

Ilana-Ora
===
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here it is . . .

Carla DeMarco
 

Hi again. I forgot onelist won't allow attachments, so I've posted The
Shit Files on my server. I'll leave it there a week or two to give you
time to read and/or download, should you have the interest.


A rollicking good time was had that day. For me, it was like a bunch of
kids splashing in the mud, enjoying for a moment something "forbidden"
in a harmless gesture that involved the questioning of authority -- an
example of how loosening up and allowing lets creativity and realization
flood the being. Read between the lines. Feel the burst. Laugh . . .
enjoy! Or . . . ignore if you're so inclined. Whatever floats your cork.

Love,
Carla


Many Thanks

 

To all of you that have read and responded to my posting
I appreciate all of your words, thoughts, suggestions, feelings.
It is very uplifting as always.
Your postings are such a wonderful part of my day! Although my
delimmas have yet to be resolved, I'm still smiling and feel good.
And thats a start!

Much Love Carla S.


August 11th---4th dimension

MMHaffner
 

think of it as a 'timed-embedded-signal', from the stars.

(of course you know that the stars have intelligent races, right? and of
course you know that you probably came from one of them, right? is this
why you never really felt at "home" here?)

this 'timed-embedded-signal', opens up knowledge, or in better words the
knowledge is 'time released' into the human system and human body.

the knowledge has to do with the '4th dimension'.
the 4th dimension is really rite -here and now-, but is not accessible
because of concepts that stand in the way.

the 4th dimension has to do with 'time'.
here comes the trippy part.
to access the 4th dimension, nothing need be done.

what is keeping one from the 4th dimension? simple...... false concepts.

the false concept is thinking --Everything is Not now, or in other
words-----This moment is stale, stagnant, 'old'.

the 4th dimension is knowing that
-----Every moment is *Literally* Brand new.

living in the '4th dimension' is simply being aware that Every moment is
*Literally* Brand new.

YOU are Brand new every moment. so if you are Brand new every moment,
what of your 'line of future', your 'flow of events'?

well, they can ONLY come from this moment.

this is the knowledge of the 4th dimension.
(Personal Empowerment)


Re: Abundance

 

Hi Carla C.

(And hello to all my friends who haven't seen me on the Abe List for a long
time)

I also use the spending game Carla DeMarco talked about. I just use an extra
checkbook and the first day I write down the date and how I am spending the
$100, the next day I write down the date and how I am spending my $200, the
next day $400, and so on. You don't need to use a computer unless you want
to. You can just use a blank check record.

Also, Sonreya has recommended another great book on abundance, by Paula
Horan, titled "Abundance Through Reiki," in case you want a different
approach. I have this book, but I haven't done the exercises yet. Doretta
has, and she says it is great.


Smiles,

Pat C.
TSPG


Fw: [ELM] MM I AM

Malin
 

Does this sum it up what?

Love,

Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Shepherd <hshep@...>
To: Earth Link Mission <elmission@...>
Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 8:35 PM
Subject: [ELM] MM I AM


+++ A Marshmallow Message +++ You are dearly loved! +++
++++++++++++++ From www.kryon.org ++++++++++++++
I AM
Suddenly God was speaking, "My name is 'I am.'"
I waited.
God continued.

"When you live in the past with its mistakes and regrets, it is hard. I am
not there. My name is not 'I was.'

When you live in the future, with its problems and fears, it is hard, I am
not there. My name is not 'I will be.'

When you live in this moment, it is not hard. I am here. My name is 'I am.'"

--a grace from St. Benedict's Monestary, Snowmass, Colorado
via Jan


Namaste'
As within; so without.
Shahara


Need Any Astrology Lovers Who Knows More About This Solar Eciipse

Nancy A. Miller
 

Hi - I'm looking for any info about the solar eclipse happening on
Wednesday - meaning physical/emotional/spiritual ramifications associated
with it. If you have any info like that given earlier this a.m. please
pem.

Thanks in advance. Love and Hugz, Nancy

**
Nancy A. Miller, Administrative Assistant
University of Michigan
UROP/WISE Program in Mosher Jordan Residence Hall
220 Mosher Jordan, 200 Observatory
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2035 *734 936-6536


ECLIPSE: August 11 update

Essence Solutions, Inc.
 

Hi, all.

For those of you who are aware of what is said to be a powerful solar
eclipse tomoro, Wednesday, August 11......an astrologer friend of mine
just sent the following to her friends.

Because it offers info about two world-wide meditations scheduled for
tomoro....I'm passing it along for those who are interested.

My friend, Eleanor Kibrick forwarded the following:

Hello everyone, this is Barbara Wolf


August 11, the Solar Eclipse, is nearly here. It is a day of intense
energies. Let us use these energies in a positive way to help heal
this earth and its people.
The bottom line re meditations is that they will be held:

Aug. 11, WORLD EARTH HEALING DAY. Global Meditation during the total
eclipse of the sun. 10:00am GMT London time, which is:
6:00am EDT New York, Louisville
5:00am CDT Kansas City
4:00am MDT Denver
3:00am PDT Los Angeles
0:00am HDT Hawaii
7:00pm (8/12) JDT Tokyo

The second meditation will take place at 8.20 pm, London time. Please
calculate your time from the above listings. [NOTE: THIS IS 4:20
p.m. for the East Coast EDT]
Each link-up will be at least 20 minutes. During this time you are
asked to meditate, pray, visualise, dance, sing, or perform a symbolic
act in order to express your love and awareness of the Planet and your
love and your connection with all beings.



If you want more, here's what was forwarded to me in its entirety:

Hello everyone, this is Barbara Wolf


August 11, the Solar Eclipse, is nearly here. It is a day of intense
energies. Let us use these energies in a positive way to help heal
this earth and its people.

1. VISIBILITY: From Jonathon Seward, jcward@...

The Eclipse on August 11 will be visible from North East America, East
Canada, Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, and Western Asia; but
not all of these regions will see totality. The path of totality is
charted as follows:

Starts in the Atlantic Ocean at 9.30 GMT
Reaches the Scilly Isles at 10.10 GMT
Reaches Southern England at 10.11 GMT
Reaches Northern France at 10.16 GMT
Reaches Southern Belgium and Luxembourg at 10.27 GMT
Reaches Southern Germany at 10.33 GMT
Reaches Austria at 10.41 GMT
Reaches Hungary at 10.47 GMT
Reaches Romania at 10.56 GMT
Reaches Bulgaria at 11.06 GMT
Reaches Northern Turkey at 11.21 GMT
Reaches Iraq at 11.45 GMT
Reaches Iran at 11.52 GMT
Reaches Pakistan at 12.22 GMT
Reaches India at 12.28 GMT
Ends in the Bay of Bengal at 12.36 GMT

The maximum duration of the Eclipse (2 minutes 27 seconds) occurs in
Romania at 11.03 GMT, where the Sun's altitude is greatest. In England
the path of totality will extend south of a line joining Port Isaac in
Cornwall and Teignmouth in Devon.
------------------------------
2. Eclipse times for U.S.A.
EST (Eastern Standard Time): 6:12am to 8:27am. Peak is at 7:09am.
CST (Central Standard Time): 5:12am to 7:27am. Peak is at 6:09am.
MST (Mountain Standard Time): 4:12am to 6:27am. Peak is at 5:09am.
PST (Pacific Standard Time): 3:12am to 5:27am. Peak is at 4:09am.
HST (Hawaii Standard Time): 12:12am to 2:27am. Peak is at 1:09am.
------------------------------
3. More Solar Eclipse info:
------------------------------
4. Solar Eclipse Events:


Aug. 3 & 11, ENGLAND: Heartlink '99 Twin Global Love and Peace
Meditation. Aug. 3, 8 p.m. GMT (8 p.m. NY time), STONEHENGE. Aug 11,
ll:ll a.m., GLASTONBURY TOR. Contact: Zolaric@...

------------
Aug. 6-14, CORNWALL, ENGLAND, 'Sunbloc Solar Eclipse' Festival on a
farm near Penzance. The site overlooks mythical St Michael's Mount, on
the central line of totality for the solar eclipse. Labyrinth, spirit
lodge, candle lit at night, animal gender workshops, healing workshops,
earthheart pyramid, story telling. Contact: Site Admin:
admin@... Tel:(+44)(0)1736 741 222.
London Office: (+44)(0)171 738 3334
-----------
Aug. 6-15, ECLIPSE CAMP CORNWALL, ENGLAND. To observe the Solar
Eclipse and to learn geomancy.

-----------
Aug 7-14, ENGLAND, the Solar Eclipse Soluna tour.
Contact: Solunatrs@...
-----------
Aug. 8, San Mateo, CALIFORNIA. Planetary Healing Circle, the
Hummingbird Wing, will meet to learn new tools for this important time
(Solar Eclipse and the two Grand Crosses).
Contact: nscully@...

----------
Aug. 9-16, AUSTRALIA, "Personal Desert Quest" during the time of the
total solar eclipse. For desert location, contact: Patricia Hooper,
patriciahooper@...
------------
Aug. 9-11, SOLAR ECLIPSE/GRAND FIXED CROSS ALIGNMENT.
Grandmothers Circle - A Spiritual Gathering. Chaco Canyon, Northwest
NEW MEXICO, USA. Join us for camping, community, healing & ceremony at
ancient Anasazi sites. Wisdom teachings: Earth mysteries, prophecies
and visions, indigenous ways, healing work, and more. If you can't
attend in person, contact us for details on joining us for ceremony on
the "energy web." Tel: 719-685-5282. Email: spiritreiki@...
-----------
Aug 10 (evening) - 14, SOLAR ECLIPSE, at Avillion of Mont Salvat,
Front Royal, VIRGINIA. 3-day retreat of Meditation in Action through
Prayer, Song, Dance, Ceremonial Celebrations for spiritual and
environmental healing. Bring camping gear. Contact: Maya White Sparks,
540-622-6122, phenix97@... or Ingrid, 540-636-7798, avillion@...
----------
Aug. 11, WORLD EARTH HEALING DAY. Global Meditation during the total
eclipse of the sun. 10:00am GMT London time,
which is:
6:00am EDT New York, Louisville
5:00am CDT Kansas City
4:00am MDT Denver
3:00am PDT Los Angeles
0:00am HDT Hawaii
7:00pm (8/12) JDT Tokyo

The second meditation will take place at 8.20 pm, London time. Please
calculate your time from the above listings.
Each link-up will be at least 20 minutes. During this time you are
asked to meditate, pray, visualise, dance, sing, or perform a symbolic
act in order to express your love and awareness of the Planet and your
love and your connection with all beings.


---------
Aug. 11, WORLD EARTH HEALING DAY Online Meditations. Jo Logan will
be hosting two online meditation linkups in the Light Connection chat
room at which is open to anyone who
cannot be at a sacred site and would like to share the energy of this
day with others. E-mail her at JoLogan@...
----------
Aug. 11, ENGLAND. "A group of 16 Russians plus Americans and Australians
arrive here to tour the sacred sites plus prolific Crop Circles of
Wessex and on AUG 11th we shall all join a large local group with
Isabelle Kingston at the powerful 'Sanctuary' site within the Avebury
Landscape Temple. Do link with us at 11:09 London time if you have no
other plans that day. We are reminded by Barbara Wolf that many
millions of Hindus (on the eastern end of the eclipse line) view such
an eclipse with the greatest possible foreboding, which means that
here on the 'western end' and elsewhere in the world 'light' groups
will need to work extra hard to balance that fear. HAPPY ECLIPSE!". .
Individuals with their own transport may join. Contact: Wholistic
World Vision Network, 106160.235@...


Note from Barbara: To convert 11:09 London time into your local time,
please check (above) under Aug. 11, World Earth Healing Day.
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Aug. 11, FREIBURG, GERMANY, 11:00 (GMT), The European 'Summer of
Hope' open air concert begins with THE WORLD HEALING DAY celebration,
and then goes to the German-Czech border, Hungary, Romania, Kosovo.
Anyone can join along the way. Contact: Chris, chris@...
More information here.
----------
Aug. 11, AUSTRIA. Contact: calendersign@...


Ratten: 11 am, Dorfcafe Dampfhofer (This is a cafe.), Telescope party
for the Solar Eclipse.
Wenigzell: Dorfplatz. (village square) "Solar Eclipse 1999"
Mnichwald: 11 am GH Breineder (Gasthaus means inn or tavern), Solar
Eclipse party at the Badesee (sea).
Strallegg: 10 am, Dorfplatz (village square), Solar Eclipse Festival.
----------
Aug. 11, ONTARIO, CANADA, 250 plus from distant places are gathering at
a farm. From Kim Saltarski (membrain@...): "19 years ago this
August 11th, I was suddenly inspired to start inviting my friends to a
party on my parent's farm, Ontario, Canada, that was to take place on
August 11th 1999. It was partly a joke but mostly a way to ensure my
dear friends would reunite in the far distant future. Since that day I
have invited friends from around the world to attend. And guess what,
that day is near and they are coming! We're expecting over 250 people
to gather for the big day. "
----------
Aug. 11, From Chandara of the ELM organization: "For the August 11
energy alignments, I would ask all ELM volunteers who feel drawn to do
so, to join in a single meditation, to begin at NOON on the
international dateline, and to hold the intention of Universal
Integration of these energies not only within the Core of the Earth, to
hold these energies by linking the Earth's Crystalline Core to the
Cores of ALL the planets which will be in alignment, to hold and
stabilize the energies of this Galaxy as we move into these energies,
and assist them in their alignment."
----------
Aug. 11: Throughout the world, AGNIHOTRA people will be doing fires to
send purifying vibrations into the atmosphere, some at the peak time,
and others for 24 hours. Here are the peak times for the U.S.A.:
EST (Eastern Standard Time): 6:12am to 8:27am. Peak is at 7:09am.
CST (Central Standard Time): 5:12am to 7:27am. Peak is at 6:09am.
MST (Mountain Standard Time): 4:12am to 6:27am. Peak is at 5:09am.
PST (Pacific Standard Time): 3:12am to 5:27am. Peak is at 4:09am.
HST (Hawaii Standard Time): 12:12am to 2:27am. Peak is at 1:09am.
----------
Aug. 11, Steve Rother emails that there will be a special meditation,
"Dawn of the New Light", at 6pm Pacific Time in the Lightworker Chat
room.
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Aug. 11, 6-9 am and 3-9 pm, WASHINGTON D.C., Sylvan Theater next to
Washington Monument., Interfaith Chant for Peace. All are invited to
join together to pray, chant and meditate for peace. Contact: Ana Jones
at 301-840-5451.
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Aug. 11, The Eclipse of the Sun 11th August 1999 World Peace Prayer -
11.10 BST 10.10 UT. Dorothy H. Forster. says, "At the moment that you
are focussing on the eclipse of the Sun, please send out the following
Peace Prayer for the world:- 'Source of my Being, help me to live in
Peace, And save my Home the Planet earth'".

----------
Aug. 11, A Day of Prayer and Meditation for International World Peace
and Healing for Mother Earth.
Information.
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Aug. 11, 7-9:39 pm. VICTOR, NEW YORK STATE. A SOLAR ECLIPSE event.
Brooke Medicine Eagle will lead a Ceremony of Lightness to release what
no longer serves us and to celebrate the resulting lightness.
Contact: CIRCLE (Community of Individuals Revisioning and Celebrating
Life on Earth), 716-924-5620
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Aug. 11, 7:30 p.m. NORTH CAROLINA, Wilmington. 6806 Myrtle Grove Road.
Becca Nova <becknova@...> says: For the SOLAR ECLIPSE, "We will
be having a sacred fire ceremony....We will be honoring all our
relations and meditating for Peace with Lightworkers everywhere....All
are invited to attend and bring musical instruments."
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Aug 11, 7:06 EDT, LOVE AND ABUNDANCE meditation.

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Aug. 11, 7-9 pm, OAHU, HAWAIIAN ISLANDS, First Christian Church, 1516
Kewalo St., Makiki. "Music of the Spheres" Sounds of Love and Light and
Sacred Sounds music and movement ceremony, shamanic music and angelic
choir for the solar eclipse and Grand Cross by Diana Allen, Dan Furst,
Bob Burdon and Joy Jakobovits. Contact: Dan Furst <hermes3@...>,
Tel: 737 - 5838.
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Aug. 11, 5 p.m., Cebu, PHILIPPINES, at Tops. Shamballa Center project.
WORLD HEALING DAY celebrated in Cebu as Harmonic Convergence, as a
day which is a harbinger of PEACE to the New Millennium, transforming,
uniting, holistic. Contact: nomades@...
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Aug. 11-15, BATH, NEW YORK, PeaceWeaver Retreat Center. "Summer
Peace Gathering". People all over the continent gather to listen to
Native American Elders. Contact: 607-776-4060.
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Aug. 22-Sept. 2, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA. Joseph-Mark Cohen,
jm-cohen@..., "would like to extend an invitation for those
souls who feel to be in meditation and ceremony to most effectively
integrate the eclipse energies to attend The Twelve Days of Light /
Tree-of-Life Summer School, August 22 - Sept 2nd, at my home in British
Columbia on the shore of beautiful Lake Kootenay. Kindly e-mail me if
you would like to receive more information about this intensive
retreat."
Take Charge of Change!


Re: Feng Shui

 

<<Follow your joy, create what you want, and know that you are the creators. Nothing can have an influence over you unless you agree to it.>>

This discussion has been really great for me. I've been peripherally aware of discussions on the upcoming eclipse and grand cross as well as feng shui. Reading all the posts, I've become aware that my own beliefs have been shifting. For years I kept abreast of planet movements and most days knew what sign the moon was in. It began to feel like some kind of bondage for me. If something feels good and I feel a strong desire to do it, I do it now. If I need a new tv I no longer check to see if mercury is retrograde. If I feel clear, I go out and buy one.

The same with feng shui. If I put a vase of flowers into a corner because I like it, I don't worry about what corner I've just shifted the energy in. I move furniture about without worry that it will have some sort of catastrophic effect on my life. Normally I move furniture because I am ready for a new perspective and when the mood strikes, I just do it. I don't consult any manuals.

I'm not saying that there's a problem with studying feng shui or astrology or anything else, but when you begin to organize your life around another person's set of rules you have begun to allow another persons thoughts and desires help rule your life instead of your own. I've learned this so clearly. When something feels good to do now, I just do it. Later on I may consult an ephimeris just to see what was going on if it was fantastically successful, but if I experienced challenges, I no longer worry about whether it was some Saturn issue. Contrast is contrast and I focus on that rather than what was going on in my chart.

Participation on this list is really liberating for me: I've had an opportunity to examine my beliefs in this area and I plan to let the eclipse and grand cross pass without special ceremony. There is tremendous movement in my life and it is enough to focus on that and where I am heading. If planetary alignment is part of this movement, so be it. I'll just imagine myself to be a surfer and riding on the crest of that energy.

Jon, thanks for your post.

Love, Judy


Re: Help! I need a pep talk

Debby O'Bar
 

Hi Carla,
The main thing I would suggest is that you try not to come from a place of lack
in asking
the Universe for what you want. I know that's easier said than done. I too
have
been dealing with financial difficulties. They've slowly improved, but not as
quickly as I would like. One of the
things I've mentioned to the list is that my improvements in my finances have
pretty much
followed my thinking....which has been very frugal. I'm not having the
tremendous and
unexpected extra expenses come up anymore.....like they used to. I'm meeting
all my obligations now, but
my finances are still following my frugal thinking. Nothing has been happening
on a grand scale.......
and I think that is because my thinking has been very limiting. Yes, the huge
expenses have stopped.....
but I haven't been allowing huge money to come to me.......mainly because I want
to limit it by
controlling it. I do know that the things that I felt no attachment to .....and
just casually wished for
have manifested quickly and easily.....no limiting thoughts to hinder those
manifestations. The good news is
that I've had enough successes with manifesting, and read about the success of
others on the list, and
now, I'm noticing that my manifestations are less and less frugal, and more and
more generous and
abundant. Keep working on it. Find that place of feeling good. I've been
listening to a lot of music
lately......and get those vibes up. Writing and scripting and focus wheels help
me a lot. I've also been playing
the prosperity game. and I really enjoy that. Another thing I've found to be
helpful is to script every day about
my dreams and what I want from my life....... and self love and unconditional
love.
I'lve been doing that every day, and intend to keep it up for 30 days.
EFT has helped me a lot too.
Best of luck. Keep us posted. Think big, expansive, abundant, and generous
thoughts. Love yourself!
Love.......Debby




Csteph1322@... wrote:

From: Csteph1322@...

Hi Friends,

Please forgive me for asking for a pep talk but I sincerely need one! or two
or as many as any of you are willing to give.

You may email me if you wish. I dont want to spill my concerns to the list
in that I'd rather not remind some of you of previous moments in your own
lives so vividly. I will, if I may, tell you that I am seeing SO SO SO much
contract that its
blowing my mind. Financial is the primary concern here. Raining buckets here.

I would gladly receive any of your wisdom.

Love, Carla S.


Re: what is the meaning of "happy"?

Ilana Goldman
 

Pat asked for specific examples about situations when the same
thoughts can feel both good and bad.

I wrote:

When we are in a negative place LOA is going to offer us
thoughts
that match where we are. Because they are a match to where we
are, these thoughts are going to feel perfectly justified and
appropriate - in other words, they are going to feel good on
this level!

Example: My child is noisy and I am getting annoyed and I am
inspired to snap at the child and demand that she change her
behavior.

My response feels perfectly justified because it is a match to my
feeling of annoyance and I may feel relief when she responds by
stopping the noise. But my response was not a match to my desire
to be an uplifter and an allower, and it is bound to feel
uncomfortable on that level.

The same thought or action can match one desire (which feels
good) and contrast with another (which feels bad)
Abe gave me once the following example: suppose I want a $100,000
by next week and a friend offers that I join him in a bank
robbery. The thought robbing the bank is a match to my desire for
money (that part feels good) but it may not a match to other
desires that I hold, such as the desire for the approval of my
loved ones, the desire to play happy roles in the experience of
others, and the desire to stay out of jail... (these parts feel
rather uncomfortable!)

or it can match
a desire (which feels good) and contrast with a belief (which
feels bad)
The thought money is like air it always flows in to replace
whatever I spent is certainly a match to my desire and it
feels very nice on that level. But if it is in contrast with my
belief regarding my personal point of attraction, it may feel
more like who am I kidding! which is not so nice.

or it can match a belief (which feels good) and
contrast with a desire (which feels bad...)
The thought - I am going to volunteer to serve in the army may
feel very good to one who believes that it is the honorable thing
to do, but there is likely to be some discomfort as well due to
the contrast with his desire for freedom and safety.

With love,

Ilana-Ora

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Appreciating Feng Shui

Paula Sirois
 

jnd33@... writes:

<< Follow your joy, create what you want, and know that you are the
creators.
Nothing can have an influence over you unless you agree to it.
>>

sweetboobabe says:

YES this is exactly Abes point that I think you described so clearly!!! WE
ARE THE CREATORS!>



YES...and with respect to my environment I have found that following my JOY
leads me to interact with my surroundings in a vital exchange of creative
energy...so that a mirror, a spray of flowers, a plant, an open space, a
blessing over a doorway...these THINGS pulsate with life force...and it
FEELS SO GOOD as I bathe in these awesome vibrations....AH, and what's this?

methinks it might be FENG SHUI ; )

So the souls who created and refined this fine art are reflecting my highest
joy back to me...How I appreciate the beauty and sensitivity that these
souls have integrated into this magnificent dialogue with my outer world.

I love the light that pours in through every open window...

LOVE IS EVERYWHERE.

Pblissedouttotally


Re: Feng Shui

Juls
 

Hi Jon,

I totally agree with you that we create our own realities, and everything
else, just a taking a pill or having surgery are ways we use to allow our
wellness, so are all the rest of the things that you mentioned.

BUT, 1/4 of earth's population has been using Feng Shui for thousands of
years, maybe there's something to it and it can't hurt in the end anyway. I
believe that Reiki can heal and so it does, I believe that water is good for
me to drink so it is, I'm not really in to astrology but I have notices
correlations in hind sight between things and that method has been used
since we first began recording time. Just as Abe says, why throw away the
modern advances we have made in technology, medicine, etc why also throw
away some of the old methods? LOA has ALWAYS been it's Not a new thing.
Everything is energy and if placing a water fountain in the far left hand
corner of my room brings greater abundance then Great, if not I'll play the
prosperity game more often. :D

They are just tools, methods, things to play with, nothing more, nothing
less. And if you're clueless about design it gives you a place to start.
:D

LOVE YA- Juls


Fw: Feng Shui

Malin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Malin <cmalin@...>
To: johni@... <johni@...>; jnd 33
<jnd33@...>
Cc: Abraham-Hicks@... <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Feng Shui


Hello All!
While each of us is the process of realizing just how unlimited our true
nature is, we are attracting various knowledge, opportunities, ideas,
reminders, that we are ATI that resonate with our IB. Eventually, we will
be able to manifest our desires with a thought.........but until we reach
the level of absolute knowing that this is so, it is perfectly healthy -
and
fun - to bridge "out" and bring the desired teaching, item, whatever, back
"in". Since there is No Beginning and No End, thus, No Separation, we
cannot be disloyal to our IB if we are acting in concert with it, and
allowing the LOA to work its' magic in our lives!
And part of partnering with our IB is expressing gratitude for the growth
and wisdom we accumulate along the way which serves to RE-MIND us of who "I
AM"!
I think the point is not to allow any train of thought, person (read
"guru"), place, or thing to take precedence over our knowingness of our
place in ATI. If, indeed, this rings true to someone, they are operating
from a desire to experience variety in their expression, to bring more
knowledge of ATI to him/her. If the reverse is the case, then he/she is
operating from a sense of lack.

Th-th-th-that's ALL for now, folks!

In Absolute Love, Joy, and Desire,

Melissa-----Original Message-----
From: Lola Waychus <johni@...>
To: jnd 33 <jnd33@...>
Cc: Abraham-Hicks@... <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Feng Shui


From: Lola Waychus <johni@...>

Dear Jon,

The statements you made in your letter are the things Abraham has been
saying to
us constantly. No matter how many tapes we listen to or seminars we go to
of
Abraham's the voice of Newspapers, TV, and others shout so much louder.
Therefore, we become convinced that if we take this or that or arrange our
furniture so and so that all will be well. I think that we all spend a
great
deal of money buying things that aren't magic but we seem to have to try
them.

Yes, if we truly believe that something will help then it will. For
instance, I
believe that food supplements will help my overall health and they do.
However,
so many things I get saying "I'll try this it might help". Most of the
time
these things don't help and I realize that once again I have fallen into
the
trap of suggestion.

It was nice to see Abe by Jon <g> Thanks!!

With love
Lola

jnd 33 wrote:

From: "jnd 33" <jnd33@...>

Hi all,

Here's my 2 cents on Feng Shui: like astrology and superstitions,
it's
a
belief system. If you believe you are subject to its influence, you will
be.
If you don't believe it affects you, it won't.

We can all create an energy flow or environment that is pleasant and
comfortable. We don't have to move our furniture any special way. We
just
decide to believe that the energy is fine for us, and it will be.

Like Elias says, astrology has got it all backwards. The stars don't
influence us, it is we who influence the stars (actually create them,
even).
Same for feng shui. It is not the energy that influences us, it is we
who
influence it.

So, my fellow gods and goddesses, fear not bad feng shui or bad
astrological alignments or "unhealthy foods". Food doesn't cause weight
gain
or ill health, we do. Feng shui doesn't cause energy problems, we do.
The
planets don't create our destinies, we do. You can eat what you want if
you
believe you can, you can have your furniture placed anywhere if you
believe
you can. To believe otherwise makes you victims to thousands of theories
of
what has power over you and will send you seeking thousands of advisors
or
books to discover how to fight these victimizing influences...

Follow your joy, create what you want, and know that you are the
creators.
Nothing can have an influence over you unless you agree to it.

Light and joy, Jon


Re: Feng Shui

Malin
 

Hello All!
While each of us is the process of realizing just how unlimited our true
nature is, we are attracting various knowledge, opportunities, ideas,
reminders, that we are ATI that resonate with our IB. Eventually, we will
be able to manifest our desires with a thought.........but until we reach
the level of absolute knowing that this is so, it is perfectly healthy - and
fun - to bridge "out" and bring the desired teaching, item, whatever, back
"in". Since there is No Beginning and No End, thus, No Separation, we
cannot be disloyal to our IB if we are acting in concert with it, and
allowing the LOA to work its' magic in our lives!
And part of partnering with our IB is expressing gratitude for the growth
and wisdom we accumulate along the way which serves to RE-MIND us of who "I
AM"!
I think the point is not to allow any train of thought, person (read
"guru"), place, or thing to take precedence over our knowingness of our
place in ATI. If, indeed, this rings true to someone, they are operating
from a desire to experience variety in their expression, to bring more
knowledge of ATI to him/her. If the reverse is the case, then he/she is
operating from a sense of lack.

Th-th-th-that's ALL for now, folks!

In Absolute Love, Joy, and Desire,

Melissa-----Original Message-----
From: Lola Waychus <johni@...>
To: jnd 33 <jnd33@...>
Cc: Abraham-Hicks@... <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Feng Shui


From: Lola Waychus <johni@...>

Dear Jon,

The statements you made in your letter are the things Abraham has been
saying to
us constantly. No matter how many tapes we listen to or seminars we go to
of
Abraham's the voice of Newspapers, TV, and others shout so much louder.
Therefore, we become convinced that if we take this or that or arrange our
furniture so and so that all will be well. I think that we all spend a
great
deal of money buying things that aren't magic but we seem to have to try
them.

Yes, if we truly believe that something will help then it will. For
instance, I
believe that food supplements will help my overall health and they do.
However,
so many things I get saying "I'll try this it might help". Most of the
time
these things don't help and I realize that once again I have fallen into
the
trap of suggestion.

It was nice to see Abe by Jon <g> Thanks!!

With love
Lola

jnd 33 wrote:

From: "jnd 33" <jnd33@...>

Hi all,

Here's my 2 cents on Feng Shui: like astrology and superstitions, it's
a
belief system. If you believe you are subject to its influence, you will
be.
If you don't believe it affects you, it won't.

We can all create an energy flow or environment that is pleasant and
comfortable. We don't have to move our furniture any special way. We just
decide to believe that the energy is fine for us, and it will be.

Like Elias says, astrology has got it all backwards. The stars don't
influence us, it is we who influence the stars (actually create them,
even).
Same for feng shui. It is not the energy that influences us, it is we
who
influence it.

So, my fellow gods and goddesses, fear not bad feng shui or bad
astrological alignments or "unhealthy foods". Food doesn't cause weight
gain
or ill health, we do. Feng shui doesn't cause energy problems, we do.
The
planets don't create our destinies, we do. You can eat what you want if
you
believe you can, you can have your furniture placed anywhere if you
believe
you can. To believe otherwise makes you victims to thousands of theories
of
what has power over you and will send you seeking thousands of advisors
or
books to discover how to fight these victimizing influences...

Follow your joy, create what you want, and know that you are the
creators.
Nothing can have an influence over you unless you agree to it.

Light and joy, Jon


The Doo Doo Files

Carla DeMarco
 

On Monday, July 19, Susan James (whatever happened to Susan anyway?)
posted a shitty message to the group and shit flew in response. It was
my second day on the list, and I was awe inspired. Wow! I thought! These
folks know how to party! Everyone was havin' a shitload of fun, and
coming to some astute realizations in the process.

There was another thread going on at the time, too, about getting
together for latte. The two were weavin' and dancin' together and astral
confetti was flying through the Abe list..

After awhile - the next day I think - there was a letter of protest from
a person on the list about the language and a letter from David saying
he'd changed our classification so kids under 17 wouldn't read us. Since
then, barely a fart has popped.

Before I delete my trash bin, I wanted to preserve at least some of this
fine day when I was so emphatically indoctrinated into the Abe list.
When I realized there's a party going on in my computer.

So, whether you're new and want a "taste" of what you missed (you'll see
what I mean when you read the attached), or someone who read the thread
before and just want one more chuckle, I present, with love and
appreciation to the participants, The Shit Files. They may not all be in
exact order, and I didn't get much in about the latte, and I probably
missed some stuff, but I think you'll still be able to get a sense of
how it all "went down."

Love,
Carla


Re: Feng Shui

Rose Prestipino
 

Hi Jon,

As a newsome list person, I've been happily consuming the collective wisdom
of you Abe folks. Your post today certainly added to it. My brief
experience with Feng Shui, however, reminded me to set up the house in such
a way that it "felt good". And doesn't even that have a tinge of Abe in it.

Feeling Love,

Rosabella

-----Original Message-----
From: jnd 33 <jnd33@...>
To: Abraham-Hicks@... <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:02 PM
Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] Feng Shui


From: "jnd 33" <jnd33@...>

Hi all,

Here's my 2 cents on Feng Shui: like astrology and superstitions, it's a
belief system. If you believe you are subject to its influence, you will
be.
If you don't believe it affects you, it won't.

We can all create an energy flow or environment that is pleasant and
comfortable. We don't have to move our furniture any special way. We just
decide to believe that the energy is fine for us, and it will be.

Like Elias says, astrology has got it all backwards. The stars don't
influence us, it is we who influence the stars (actually create them,
even).
Same for feng shui. It is not the energy that influences us, it is we who
influence it.

So, my fellow gods and goddesses, fear not bad feng shui or bad
astrological alignments or "unhealthy foods". Food doesn't cause weight
gain
or ill health, we do. Feng shui doesn't cause energy problems, we do. The
planets don't create our destinies, we do. You can eat what you want if you
believe you can, you can have your furniture placed anywhere if you believe
you can. To believe otherwise makes you victims to thousands of theories of
what has power over you and will send you seeking thousands of advisors or
books to discover how to fight these victimizing influences...

Follow your joy, create what you want, and know that you are the
creators.
Nothing can have an influence over you unless you agree to it.

Light and joy, Jon


Creation does NOT exist.....

MMHaffner
 

Creation does not exist........
Because it IS the ONLY thing that exists!!!

Just like when looking THRU your eyes,
you cannot SEE your eyes........


**
Strange words indeed,
but they are intended to make you Aware,
that you ARE Creation.

....And that you ARE Creation,
Moment to Moment, for the rest of eternity.


now the question is,
if you are *Creation* ---Moment to Moment,
how can you NOT be the Master of your life???