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And the output capacitor I used was 100 uF/25 volts, with measured 100 kHz ESR of 0.26 ohms.

Steve

On 9/16/2022 10:00 PM, Steve Ratzlaff via groups.io wrote:

As noted, first test was at -40 dBm. I raised the level just now to max, -17 dBm--very little change from before--the output impedance decreased about 0.03 ohms for each frequency.

Steve

On 9/16/2022 8:55 PM, Tom Lee wrote:
Those numbers have a believable trend, but the magnitudes seem too high. I don't know what the parasitic emitter resistance is of a 2N5109, but I would be surprised if it were bigger than an ohm. The output capacitor's ESR adds to that, of course, but a good cap shouldn't have several ohms of ESR. So, if you include realistic parasitics, the output resistance should be an ohm or less. The milliohms number I gave earlier is the ideal value you would get in the limit of no parasitics.

How large an excitation are you using to probe the output Z?

Tom
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On 9/16/2022 19:48, Steve Ratzlaff wrote:

I breadboarded the circuit just now using 2N5109's and swept the output Z with the DG8SAQ VNWA, 10 kHz-30 MHz. The circuit draws 117 mA; the output transistor draws 84 mA. The output impedance is mostly flat, gradually rising after about 10 MHz.

50 kHz 4.23 ohms

1 MHz 4.42 ohms

10 MHz 5.27 ohms

20 MHz 6.80 ohms

30 MHz 8.77 ohms

Steve AA7U


On 9/16/2022 5:44 PM, Mikek wrote:
Someone sent me a private messaged and corrected me on the output impedance of the 50 to 1 transformer,
it is 0.001¦¸ or 1 milli¦¸. So, impedance ratio of 2500 x -.001 = 2.5¦¸ primary impedance. I'm not sure I know how to figure the output impedance of the
power amp in the HP4342A, I would have thought 220¦¸.
I'm posting the schematic of the impedance converter the drives the injection transformer primary and asking,

What is the output impedance of the impedance converter?

????????????????? Thanks, Mikek

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