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Re: Cal Lab Magazine - International Journal of Metrology


Rodger Bean
 

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Hi Guys,

Some more on conventions in values.

Leafing through some of my library of old technical books, I have found the following regarding capacitor designations:

Practical Radio Communication, McGraw Hill, 1943, page 78, sec 2.10: ¡°The unit of electrostatic capacity is called the farad.? A condenser which has a capacity of 1 farad would require 1 coulomb of electricity to bring its plates up to a potential difference of 1 volt.¡±

And further on in that paragraph: ¡°In electrical- and radio-engineering practice the values of capacity are generally always expressed in micro-farads or microfarads. The micro-farad is 1/1,000,000 part of a farad, consequently a condenser having a capacity of 1 mf¡­..¡± So, the authors, Arthur R. Nilson and J. L. Hornung¡¯s preference is for lower case. In the various circuits in this book, lower values of capacitance are indicated by the use of mmf for picofarad.

Electrical and Radio Notes for Wireless Operators, Air Publication 1762, October 1939: designates capacitors only in ¦Ìf on the circuit diagrams. And mentions smaller value, but only in the text, as micro-microfarads.

Reference Data for Radio Engineers, an STC publication, (no publication date), but mentions STC¡¯s supplying of 100 kW ¨C 130 kW transmitters for the BBC¡¯s Empire service. (The case of kW is as printed). Uses ¡°microfarads¡± and ¡°¦Ì ¦ÌF¡±.

CREED & CO., LTD¡¯s instruction booklet No 20. The Morse Reperforator model No 7W/3. Uses ¡°Capacitor ¡®C¡¯, 5uF¡± in the components list for fig 2, p6. But ¡°CONDENSOR ¡®C¡¯ ?, 1 or 2MF¡± in fig 3.

The Ferguson service manual for their (405 line) TV, model¡¯s 992 ¨C 998, uses uF and pF.

Electricity and its uses, J. Munro. Published by The Religious Tract Society, 1890. Mentions condensers, but has no mention of values thereof.

The Radio Data Charts; second edition, third reprint by R. T. Beatty, pub by Iliffe & Sons. Talks of micro-microfarads and ¦Ì¦ÌF.

The RSGB¡¯s Radio Data Reference Book (1962) uses ¦ÌF & pF.

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It brings to mind a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote. The first line being ¡°A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines¡±.?

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Regards

Rodger Bean

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Lee
Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2022 04:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Test Equipment Design & Construction] Cal Lab Magazine - International Journal of Metrology

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Thank you very much, George. Thanks to you, I now have the 1927 edition of the Admiralty Handbook (archive.org has it, as well as volume 1 of the 1938 edition).

And thanks to this thread, I have learned that the jar, as a unit of capacitance, is 10/9 nF. Apparently, it was mainly used by the Royal Navy. I wonder what the prototype jar was (Leyden? Marmite?)

--Cheers,
Tom

-- 
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070

On 9/2/2022 05:20, Labguy wrote:

I happen to have a 1931 copy of The Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy, a great tome for its day. It speaks of capacitance in jars.

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I also have a 1927 copy of "Les Ondes Electriques Courtes" (Short Electric Waves). I picked this up at a university book fair for $0.50 some years ago. Makes for great reading to see how things were done in those days.

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I had a look to see if it contained anything about units for capacitance. It shows circuits for transmitters, but all have the transmit signal that is used to drive output triodes derived from mechanical generators. The output stage shows a capacitor in the tank circuit, but unfortunately no units.

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Cheers,

George

VK2KGG

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Lee
Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2022 7:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Test Equipment Design & Construction] Cal Lab Magazine - International Journal of Metrology

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I just took a look at a few hobbyist magazines and some product

schematics from several different decades, and your speculation looks

pretty solid. Based on that random, statistically insignifcant sample,

the UK has been quite consistent over time and across publications aimed

at quite different readers. The US, not so much, even within a single

company. The earliest schematic for HP's first product, the 200A,

surprised me with its use of the mu symbol. A schematic for the same

product, but of later manufacture, uses "m" for micro. a seemingly

backwards step. Textbooks and refereed journals paid the extra ha'penny

for a mu, but hobby magazines were a different story.

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I did not check any German or French pubs to see what conventions were

followed there.

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-- Cheers,

Tom

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