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TekScopes is "All about classic Tektronix test equipment, its use, repair,
and collecting".

What do comments and opinions about Wikipedia have to do with TekScopes?

Dennis Tillman W7pF




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Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator


 

On 2020-06-27, at 21:09, Dennis Tillman W7pF <dennis@...> wrote:

What do comments and opinions about Wikipedia have to do with TekScopes?
Where people are being encouraged to put their knowledge into Wikipedia, a lot.
(Regurgitating outdated prejudices, not so much.)

Gr¨¹?e, Carsten


PS.: I¡¯ve been teaching for a few decades now, and in the middle of the 2000s, I noticed that students in exams weren¡¯t just telling me the usual random garbage, but consistent garbage. After a short while I found out they had their ¡°knowledge" from Wikipedia. So I made a point out of fixing the relevant Wikipedia articles each time before I gave a lecture. 15 years later, the situation has improved, a *lot*. I still give out an assignment to all students at the end of courses to ¡°fix a couple wikipedia pages¡±, so the students learn it is easy to do, doesn¡¯t hurt, and (if it sticks) it might even be something they can show to future employers.

So, if you *know* something, and find mistakes in Wikipedia, please fix them. Right there! The fix might not stick, so a little frustration tolerance is needed, but on average the world gets to be a better place.
A world knowing more about Tek Scopes, as well.


 

Carsten,

I think this is excellent advice, and I will also do all I can to encourage my employees and others to do the same, as will I personally.


Thanks,
Kyle

On Jun 27, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabocabo@...> wrote:

?On 2020-06-27, at 21:09, Dennis Tillman W7pF <dennis@...> wrote:

What do comments and opinions about Wikipedia have to do with TekScopes?
Where people are being encouraged to put their knowledge into Wikipedia, a lot.
(Regurgitating outdated prejudices, not so much.)

Gr¨¹?e, Carsten


PS.: I¡¯ve been teaching for a few decades now, and in the middle of the 2000s, I noticed that students in exams weren¡¯t just telling me the usual random garbage, but consistent garbage. After a short while I found out they had their ¡°knowledge" from Wikipedia. So I made a point out of fixing the relevant Wikipedia articles each time before I gave a lecture. 15 years later, the situation has improved, a *lot*. I still give out an assignment to all students at the end of courses to ¡°fix a couple wikipedia pages¡±, so the students learn it is easy to do, doesn¡¯t hurt, and (if it sticks) it might even be something they can show to future employers.

So, if you *know* something, and find mistakes in Wikipedia, please fix them. Right there! The fix might not stick, so a little frustration tolerance is needed, but on average the world gets to be a better place.
A world knowing more about Tek Scopes, as well.




 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:


TekScopes is "All about classic Tektronix test equipment, its use, repair,
and collecting".

What do comments and opinions about Wikipedia have to do with TekScopes?

Dennis Tillman W7pF




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Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator
WTF!

Discussions drift because people make statements others don't understand and the explanations often go far afield. It is inevitable.

I was not aware that discussion on TekScopes was restricted to the cognesceti. If that's the case then I certainly don't belong here.

I own 8-10 pieces of Tek gear and about 20-25 pieces of HP gear. And no significant experience with any except for a pair of 106s and a 465. And my recent 11801. It was simply outside my budget until a couple of years ago when old age set in.

"Collecting" test gear borders on being offensive to me. It seems to be a TekScopes obsession. I've never seen an "is an xxxx worth restoring?" post on the HPAK list. These instruments were made to be *used*, not worshiped.

If TekScopes is going "technically correct" I'm simply going to stop reading it.

Reg


 

Reg,

You mentioned "a pair of 106s" - Hewlett-Packard frequency standards? Those
were very accurate quartz standards and hard to find. I once turned up a
couple and they worked but had been heavily modified by some US Government
lab - the fine frequency adjustment was partly removed. I swapped them to a
time-and-frequency guy who wanted them for parts to keep his 106 running. I
have used an HP 107 and have a 105A quartz standard that runs fine. I used
to check the 105 against WWV 60kHz, but am in the process of switching to
GPS as a reference. I have an HP disciplined quartz standard that uses GPS
to keep the quartz oscillator on frequency.

Do you know about the "Time Nuts" folks?

Steve H.





On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:28 PM Reginald Beardsley via groups.io <pulaskite=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:


TekScopes is "All about classic Tektronix test equipment, its use,
repair,
and collecting".

What do comments and opinions about Wikipedia have to do with TekScopes?

Dennis Tillman W7pF




--
Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator
WTF!

Discussions drift because people make statements others don't understand
and the explanations often go far afield. It is inevitable.

I was not aware that discussion on TekScopes was restricted to the
cognesceti. If that's the case then I certainly don't belong here.

I own 8-10 pieces of Tek gear and about 20-25 pieces of HP gear. And no
significant experience with any except for a pair of 106s and a 465. And
my recent 11801. It was simply outside my budget until a couple of years
ago when old age set in.

"Collecting" test gear borders on being offensive to me. It seems to be a
TekScopes obsession. I've never seen an "is an xxxx worth restoring?"
post on the HPAK list. These instruments were made to be *used*, not
worshiped.

If TekScopes is going "technically correct" I'm simply going to stop
reading it.

Reg




 

I have two of these:



Now obsolete for my purposes as I have a couple of Leo Bodnar's marvelous <40 ps units. If anyone is interested in them PM me and I'll take photos. I am only keeping them until they find a proper home.

I'm in central Arkansas.

Have Fun!
Reg


Ray, W4BYG
 

Reg,
I would be interested. could you provide more detail?
Ray,
W4BYG at ATT dot net

On 7/1/2020 00:17, Reginald Beardsley via groups.io wrote:
I have two of these:



Now obsolete for my purposes as I have a couple of Leo Bodnar's marvelous <40 ps units. If anyone is interested in them PM me and I'll take photos. I am only keeping them until they find a proper home.

I'm in central Arkansas.

Have Fun!
Reg


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Would be nice if more Tektronix related information was on Wikipedia. Thinking I can make a Tekwiki wiki on Wikipedia and maybe add on the Tektronix Wikipedia Wiki also. Looks like the following "Tektronix Analog Oscilloscopes" wiki does link to Tekwiki and more:


I made this update for the edge connectors that I'm thinking I can elaborate on too for more Tektronix and maybe other gear. I'm new to all this, though notice the use in other gear too.


Please note if I'm missing anything pertinent and/or questions, comments and/or suggestions. Thanks for sharing!


Chuck Harris
 

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nonIonizing EMF wrote:

Would be nice if more Tektronix related information was on Wikipedia. Thinking I can make a Tekwiki wiki on Wikipedia and maybe add on the Tektronix Wikipedia Wiki also. Looks like the following "Tektronix Analog Oscilloscopes" wiki does link to Tekwiki and more:


I made this update for the edge connectors that I'm thinking I can elaborate on too for more Tektronix and maybe other gear. I'm new to all this, though notice the use in other gear too.


Please note if I'm missing anything pertinent and/or questions, comments and/or suggestions. Thanks for sharing!





 

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 04:59 PM, nonIonizing EMF wrote:


Thinking I can make a Tekwiki wiki on Wikipedia
I'm against it.
We've got the curated (and excellent) Tekwiki.
Marketing campaigns don't belong on any of the wikis.