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Tektronix 576 CRT replacement


 

Hi group,

I bought a Tektronix 576 curve tracer a few years ago in the US and it was
damaged during shipment to Europe. The CRT got a hit and was shattered to
pieces.
Which CRT is a suitable electrical - and if possible mechanical-
replacement if I ignore that the original CRT has 10 vertical divisions?

Someone told me, a CRT out of a 5103 scope would be a good fit. What do you
think?

Best regards

Jan


 

The 576 CRT (154-0563-00, or -01, or -05) is unique to that instrument.

The RPR doesn't show it being used in anything else.
David

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jan Weber via groups.io
Sent: 30 October 2021 11:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TekScopes] Tektronix 576 CRT replacement

Hi group,

I bought a Tektronix 576 curve tracer

:

Someone told me, a CRT out of a 5103 scope would be a good fit.


 

That's the 577 that shares the crt with the 5000 series. With the 576
you have to find one. Nobody's come up with an LCD replacement (yet)
but I would expect to see something eventually.

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Jan Weber via groups.io wrote:
Hi group,

I bought a Tektronix 576 curve tracer a few years ago in the US and it was
damaged during shipment to Europe. The CRT got a hit and was shattered to
pieces.
Which CRT is a suitable electrical - and if possible mechanical-
replacement if I ignore that the original CRT has 10 vertical divisions?

Someone told me, a CRT out of a 5103 scope would be a good fit. What do you
think?

Best regards

Jan

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Manchester MI, USA
Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix/Linux - We don't do windows


 

The CRT in the 576 as far as I know is unique to the instrument. However if
you find one that is a soutable match please let me know I have 2 in the lab
that need CRT's and one that needs a HV transformer. I have a few ideas on
the old HV transformer that I would like to try as well. As I still have the
leaky one on hand.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Amaranth
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tektronix 576 CRT replacement

That's the 577 that shares the crt with the 5000 series. With the 576 you
have to find one. Nobody's come up with an LCD replacement (yet) but I
would expect to see something eventually.


On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Jan Weber via groups.io wrote:
Hi group,

I bought a Tektronix 576 curve tracer a few years ago in the US and it
was damaged during shipment to Europe. The CRT got a hit and was
shattered to pieces.
Which CRT is a suitable electrical - and if possible mechanical-
replacement if I ignore that the original CRT has 10 vertical divisions?

Someone told me, a CRT out of a 5103 scope would be a good fit. What
do you think?

Best regards

Jan

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Manchester MI, USA
Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix/Linux - We don't do windows


 

Jan, I also still have the tubes and they both still work they are just VERY
high hour let me know if you are interested. One is extremely dim the other
is dim but readable and double peaking using a 3d printed viewer it might be
usable. Not idea but It might get the instrument off the ground.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Amaranth
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tektronix 576 CRT replacement

That's the 577 that shares the crt with the 5000 series. With the 576 you
have to find one. Nobody's come up with an LCD replacement (yet) but I
would expect to see something eventually.


On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Jan Weber via groups.io wrote:
Hi group,

I bought a Tektronix 576 curve tracer a few years ago in the US and it
was damaged during shipment to Europe. The CRT got a hit and was
shattered to pieces.
Which CRT is a suitable electrical - and if possible mechanical-
replacement if I ignore that the original CRT has 10 vertical divisions?

Someone told me, a CRT out of a 5103 scope would be a good fit. What
do you think?

Best regards

Jan

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Manchester MI, USA
Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix/Linux - We don't do windows


 

I was e-mailed the winding data of the HV transformer some years ago by a forum member since the 576 in my posession also had the leaky transformer. The winding data can be found in the manuals section of KO4BB. Look inte "Root" folder of TEK. A friend of mine printed a new plastic bobbin. I successfully separated the two ferrit core parts by heating the transformer in a small oven until the parts could be manually separated without using force. Then, using the winding data, reproduced the transformer, using a home built winding fixture (and patience since the secondary winding is some 1000 turns 0.1mm dia copper.) It is important to wind the HV portion using HV insulation between the layers and also by always starting a new layer from the same side as the previous layer in order to avoid internal flash-over.

Another problem was the LV power supply section. Aging carbon type resistors way out of tolerance and also leaky electrolythic capacitors is a problem with older equipment.

Cheers

Ulf Kylenfall
SM6GXV


 

Transformer data on KO4BB

On Oct 31, 2021, at 12:37 AM, Ulf Kylenfall via groups.io <ulf_r_k@...> wrote:

?I was e-mailed the winding data of the HV transformer some years ago by a forum member since the 576 in my posession also had the leaky transformer. The winding data can be found in the manuals section of KO4BB. Look inte "Root" folder of TEK. A friend of mine printed a new plastic bobbin. I successfully separated the two ferrit core parts by heating the transformer in a small oven until the parts could be manually separated without using force. Then, using the winding data, reproduced the transformer, using a home built winding fixture (and patience since the secondary winding is some 1000 turns 0.1mm dia copper.) It is important to wind the HV portion using HV insulation between the layers and also by always starting a new layer from the same side as the previous layer in order to avoid internal flash-over.

Another problem was the LV power supply section. Aging carbon type resistors way out of tolerance and also leaky electrolythic capacitors is a problem with older equipment.

Cheers

Ulf Kylenfall
SM6GXV





 

Thanks a lot Eric for your kind offer. The 576 I got is actually quite
beaten-up, there is some kind of black substance in it, like soot, as if it
was rescued from a fire. It's close to being a basket case.
Before we go through the effort of shipping a CRT I'd better try my 576
with a scope connected to it.

Best regards

Jan

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 3:57 PM Eric <ericsp@...> wrote:

Jan, I also still have the tubes and they both still work they are just
VERY
high hour let me know if you are interested. One is extremely dim the other
is dim but readable and double peaking using a 3d printed viewer it might
be
usable. Not idea but It might get the instrument off the ground.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Amaranth
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tektronix 576 CRT replacement

That's the 577 that shares the crt with the 5000 series. With the 576 you
have to find one. Nobody's come up with an LCD replacement (yet) but I
would expect to see something eventually.


On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Jan Weber via groups.io wrote:
Hi group,

I bought a Tektronix 576 curve tracer a few years ago in the US and it
was damaged during shipment to Europe. The CRT got a hit and was
shattered to pieces.
Which CRT is a suitable electrical - and if possible mechanical-
replacement if I ignore that the original CRT has 10 vertical divisions?

Someone told me, a CRT out of a 5103 scope would be a good fit. What
do you think?

Best regards

Jan

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Manchester MI, USA
Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix/Linux - We don't do windows












 

That's interesting, my 576 had black soot all inside the HV cage and its components,
along the wiring all the way up to the CRT yoke. Do you mean everywhere, or confined to that area?
The soot contaminated several of the open-frame pots so I replaced them, it might
be worth looking at them.