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[OT] Windows XP?
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Dave Casey
Richard -
There was a time when you could download an ISO image from Microsoft (as you currently can for Windows 7). You might google "Windows XP ISO" and see what you come up with. It is likely still available from a third party even if Microsoft isn't hosting it anymore. Dave Casey On 9/7/2014 2:30 AM, 'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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It seems to still be available from Microsoft here: Download Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File from Official Microsoft Download Center
I always keep an ISO file in my documents library to use on family computers. The only caveat is that not all Windows license codes are the same. Microsoft separated the herd into OEM, VOLUME, and RETAIL. So the ISO from this download will most likely not work with OEM licenses. You can tell the difference because it will have OEM in the license code somewhere. They are all really the same program but the installer makes the difference. There is a hack that claims to let the user change the installer so you can use any ISO with any legal code (I haven't used it because I have two different ISOs in my library). Here is a link to that hack. C:\Users\Ron\Documents\Comp Utilities\Windows XP\Use OEM Version to Upgrade XP.mht Download Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Ima... View on www.microsoft.com Preview by Yahoo From: "Dave Casey dcasey@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] [OT] Windows XP? Richard - There was a time when you could download an ISO image from Microsoft (as you currently can for Windows 7). You might google "Windows XP ISO" and see what you come up with. It is likely still available from a third party even if Microsoft isn't hosting it anymore. Dave Casey On 9/7/2014 2:30 AM, 'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes] wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Dave,
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You can also add Educational to that list. I'm looking right now for an iso file. I don't want to get one that some jerk has added a virus to. I have worked so hard to minimize my chance of picking up a virus. There are people who like to take a program, add a virus to it, and then post it as bait. Thanks, rich! On 9/7/2014 2:56 AM, machine guy machineguy59@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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I think I found it. It is 545MB. Does this sound right? Also is the MS malicious software removal tool any good? Thanks, rich! On 9/7/2014 2:56 AM, machine guy machineguy59@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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How does he get the hack off of your hard drive, Ron? :)
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Geoff. On 07/09/2014 08:56, machine guy machineguy59@... [TekScopes] wrote:
It seems to still be available from Microsoft here: Download Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File from Official Microsoft Download Center
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Hello all,
Mine is OEM. Oops! I tried the link that Ron gave and it doesn't work. Thanks, rich! On 9/7/2014 4:04 AM, geoffrey thomas geoffreythomas@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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Hello all,
I have not been able to find a good copy of XP Pro on the web. Also my ID is for an OEM copy. Anybody have any other ideas? Thanks, rich! On 9/7/2014 4:04 AM, geoffrey thomas geoffreythomas@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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Sun Sep 7, 2014 11:34 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Richard R. Pope" mechanic_2
Hello all, I have not been able to find a good copy of XP Pro on the web. Also my ID is for an OEM copy. Anybody have any other ideas? Thanks, rich! --------------- Hi Rich, I have an original OEM CD of WinXP Pro that goes back to the early days of XP, certainly pre service pack 1, and may be able to create an ISO from that and let you have a copy of it. That's just a copy of the CD not the key:-), but I'm not too sure it would help you anyway. Microsoft was very restrictive as regards OEM licenses when XP came out, probably still are, and the issue may not be whether or not your OEM license key is valid, which would allow you to install the software, but whether or not Microsoft would reactivate it for you, and if they didn't it would just time out at the end of 30 days or whatever period it is they allow these days. With XP OEM keys they tied the licensing to the original machine, not to the user, and any significant changes to the machine, such as swapping out a hard drive, were likely to raise a query from the software as to the validity of the key with the possibility it could require you to reactivate it. Whether or not you could actually do that would usually depend on whether or not you could convince Microsoft it really was the same machine, and not too much different from when it started, and if I remember rightly information about the hardware is coded into the data string you have to pass over to Microsoft as part of the activation request. Unless they've relaxed the rules one heck of a lot, and that's perhaps not what you'd normally expect from Microsoft, trying to reuse an already activated OEM key on a repaired or upgraded machine might prove difficult, and trying to use it on a completely different machine would probably be a waste of time. Regards Nigel GM8PZR |
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Mike
Your kidding .. you didn't find a copy of a unlocked XP on a torrent .??
On 09/07/2014 11:34 AM, 'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes] wrote: -- Mike KC7NOA |
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I don't think you will be able to find an OEM ISO of Windows XP that can be downloaded from a reputable site. They are available from several torrent sites if you want to take that risk. Or you can buy a copy on eBay for around $30 US.
I checked my library and find I still have an ISO file copy of Windows XP with Service Pack 3 that is 678,528 kb. I haven't used it in several years but I can put it in a drop box for you or even spin a copy if you want and mail it to you. I am pretty sure this is one I had for a Dell computer (OEM licenses usually came with vendor labeling). No guarantees but the price is right. Also, I sent the wrong link in my earlier message on this subject. Sorry, I was in a hurry and didn't get to proofread my message. The link I menat to send is here: this article shows how to change the install codes to use an OEM disk to upgrade an existing install. But its not a clean job. I found it easier to just use an OEM disk with an OEM license and a retail disk with a retail license (I hade both t one time). Mac From: "machine guy machineguy59@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: "TekScopes@..." <TekScopes@...> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] [OT] Windows XP? It seems to still be available from Microsoft here: Download Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File from Official Microsoft Download Center I always keep an ISO file in my documents library to use on family computers. The only caveat is that not all Windows license codes are the same. Microsoft separated the herd into OEM, VOLUME, and RETAIL. So the ISO from this download will most likely not work with OEM licenses. You can tell the difference because it will have OEM in the license code somewhere. They are all really the same program but the installer makes the difference. There is a hack that claims to let the user change the installer so you can use any ISO with any legal code (I haven't used it because I have two different ISOs in my library). Here is a link to that hack. C:\Users\Ron\Documents\Comp Utilities\Windows XP\Use OEM Version to Upgrade XP.mht Download Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Ima... View on www.microsoft.com Preview by Yahoo From: "Dave Casey dcasey@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] [OT] Windows XP? Richard - There was a time when you could download an ISO image from Microsoft (as you currently can for Windows 7). You might google "Windows XP ISO" and see what you come up with. It is likely still available from a third party even if Microsoft isn't hosting it anymore. Dave Casey On 9/7/2014 2:30 AM, 'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes] wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Mike,
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I spent over two hours and I didn't find anything that I would trust. The last thing that I want is to introduce a virus to my network and my other systems. Thanks, rich! On 9/7/2014 3:37 PM, Mike Patriot121@... [TekScopes] wrote:
Your kidding .. you didn't find a copy of a unlocked XP on a torrent .?? |
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Nigel,
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MS has loosened the screws some. I have had to reactivate when the hardware changes quite a bit but I haven't had to call MS. It could all be done over the Internet. That wasn't true several years ago. So things do change. I was using 2000 before XP and I remember one day that I did a re-install and I didn't even have to reactivate it. It just went through. They will probably eventually do that with XP but no telling when. Thanks, rich! On 9/7/2014 3:19 PM, poldhu1901@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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Gordon
On 07/09/2014 21:19, poldhu1901@... [TekScopes] wrote:
I have not been able to find a good copy of XP Pro on the web. AlsoYou have checked it's not in an \i386 folder on the old hard disk haven't you? It used to be the norm to put a copy there (or \W95, \W98 etc going back a bit). Gordon |
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Nope! The drive has been wiped. My system drive is only used for system files and programs that insist on being installed there. I have different drives for my programs and data files. So when I go to install a new version of windows I wipe the system drive. I appreciate the suggestion. Thanks, rich! On 9/8/2014 4:04 AM, Gordon tekscopes@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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Richard Solomon
Try Craigslist.
73, Dick, W1KSZ On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Gordon tekscopes@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...> wrote:
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Hello, I have an OEM CD that I could convert to an ISO for you, but I think you would be stuck with lots of Dell add-ons when it installs.
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But if I were you, I would buy a new disk from that big auction site; I noticed some for about $10. On 9/7/2014 7:10 PM, 'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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My experience is that ALL OEM disks have branding data embedded. Its part of the OEM agreement with Microsoft. The OEM gets to put their stuff on the disk in return for being the one to support the installation. That is why OEM disks are different than Microsoft installs and even take different install codes. But the branding stuff is relatively easy to remove and seldom includes bloatware. Usually the bloatware comes from the driver disks that the OEM also provides. You can usually avoid the bloatware by going to the OEM web site and downloading only those drivers you need.
________________________________ From: "Mike Merigliano mmerig@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] [OT] Windows XP? Hello, I have an OEM CD that I could convert to an ISO for you, but I think you would be stuck with lots of Dell add-ons when it installs. But if I were you, I would buy a new disk from that big auction site; I noticed some for about $10. On 9/7/2014 7:10 PM, 'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes] wrote: Mike, ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links |
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There is some confusion here. There are two different types of OEM disk, There are the ones that are supplied with custom built computers and then there are the one that you purchase without buying a computer. Mine is the latter. Also a lot of builders don't even supply an OS disk. They supply a recovery disk and the OS is on a hidden partition on the drive. My disk is like the ones that you can buy from TigerDirect or Newegg with out buying a computer. Thanks, rich! On 9/8/2014 4:00 PM, machine guy machineguy59@... [TekScopes] wrote:
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The OEM disks you buy (eg. from Tiger Direct) are the same basic installation as the ones distributed by major companies like Dell. In recent years, major companies stopped delivering these disks but in the early years of Windows XP Dell still provided them to customers who asked. I know one of those customers and have disks he obtained. They ALL leave Microsoft with options for embedding custom logos. Dell exercised those options. But the installations proceed exactly the same. But when you first boot the computer the desktop will include logos from Dell. If you use Windows Explorer to examine one of these disks you will find a folder titled $OEM$. This folder is provided by Microsoft for the OEM to place his branding information. I have read this folder can be removed but never did it for fear of messing up the installation. It was just too easy to delete the branding after installation. Again, there is no bloatware installed by any OEM
Windows XP disk I have seen. I think it was a contracting license thing. I have the driver disks that were also delivered by Dell. Those disks were developed by Dell and contain loads of bloatware. Its my strong opinion that Dell (and others) were prohibited by Microsoft from adding third party software to an OEM install disk. I suspect that somewhere in the license agreement from Tiger Direct is a statement about modifying the CD contents before distribution. ________________________________ From: "'Richard R. Pope' mechanic_2@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] [OT] Windows XP? Hello all, There is some confusion here. There are two different types of OEM disk, There are the ones that are supplied with custom built computers and then there are the one that you purchase without buying a computer. Mine is the latter. Also a lot of builders don't even supply an OS disk. They supply a recovery disk and the OS is on a hidden partition on the drive. My disk is like the ones that you can buy from TigerDirect or Newegg with out buying a computer. Thanks, rich! On 9/8/2014 4:00 PM, machine guy machineguy59@... [TekScopes] wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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