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OT: Old ICs for sale
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Well, the seller seems a bit full of himself and full of hyperbole: "...while I¡¯d wager every last chip is good, ..., they are sold as-is."
In other words, "I'll engage in a bit of puffery and unsupported claims, and then disclaim all that by selling them as-is." If he won't guarantee them, he's not really willing to wager that "every last chip" is in fact good, is he? I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!" |
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On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor" |
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Questionable how much value there really is in those chips.? I have a similar-ish collection.? But I get paid by the hour at work, so I have to subtract the time it would take me to sort them, photograph them, package them, process the e-bay posting and receipt of change, and then mail them.? It takes much more time than any of us really account for.? ?Take off the 15% you lose to ebay/paypal fees and it's almost not worth selling them, which is basically why I don't even bother with ebay anymore.? ? And those of you who are retired.... don't say "I've got the time" because then you are under-valuing your hard-earned retirement.? Occasionally I find something that might fetch me over $100 on ebay and then I consider selling it - high value items.
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Dan On Monday, June 11, 2018, 3:43:23 AM EDT, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote:
On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote: I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead.? I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others.? Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value.? "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor" |
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Selling items is better than watching TV, and if they get used, it's better than dumping them in landfill (or at least putting that off for a while longer).
-Dave From: Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale Questionable how much value there really is in those chips.? I have a similar-ish collection.? But I get paid by the hour at work, so I have to subtract the time it would take me to sort them, photograph them, package them, process the e-bay posting and receipt of change, and then mail them.? It takes much more time than any of us really account for.? ?Take off the 15% you lose to ebay/paypal fees and it's almost not worth selling them, which is basically why I don't even bother with ebay anymore.? ? And those of you who are retired.... don't say "I've got the time" because then you are under-valuing your hard-earned retirement.? Occasionally I find something that might fetch me over $100 on ebay and then I consider selling it - high value items. Dan ? ? On Monday, June 11, 2018, 3:43:23 AM EDT, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote: On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote: I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead.? I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others.? Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value.? "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor" |
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That I agree with.? ?Not dumping into landfill "adds value".? Hey, I saved an RM504 from a list member here and finally found a home for it, so I understand that point!
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Dan On Monday, June 11, 2018, 1:28:24 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:
Selling items is better than watching TV, and if they get used, it's better than dumping them in landfill (or at least putting that off for a while longer). -Dave ? ? ? From: Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale ? Questionable how much value there really is in those chips.? I have a similar-ish collection.? But I get paid by the hour at work, so I have to subtract the time it would take me to sort them, photograph them, package them, process the e-bay posting and receipt of change, and then mail them.? It takes much more time than any of us really account for.? ?Take off the 15% you lose to ebay/paypal fees and it's almost not worth selling them, which is basically why I don't even bother with ebay anymore.? ? And those of you who are retired.... don't say "I've got the time" because then you are under-valuing your hard-earned retirement.? Occasionally I find something that might fetch me over $100 on ebay and then I consider selling it - high value items. Dan ? ? On Monday, June 11, 2018, 3:43:23 AM EDT, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote: On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote: I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead.? I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others.? Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value.? "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor" |
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Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,
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There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly. BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded. That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth. If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end. Dennis Tillman W7PF -----Original Message----- -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator |
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A bidding war hasn't happened to any of my listings for years, but yeah, it's so much fun to watch!? These days, it's usually only rare items that end up in bidding wars, but certain categories see more activity than others.? Another fun event is having two or more people snipe with "silly" bids at the last second.
-Dave From: Dennis Tillman W7PF <dennis@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay, There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly. BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded. That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth. If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end. Dennis Tillman W7PF -----Original Message----- -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator |
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On 11/06/18 18:50, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:
Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,Indeed, but care isn't needed: just select "sold listings" :) There are a couple of other useful tools for buyers: ? - to find out what an "or best offer" actually sold for, use and paste in the item's number (as found buried in the URL) ? - to find out what offers a seller has accepted/rejected, use with the seller's name That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.Try watching the live online auctions! Dennis Tillman W7PF-----Original Message----- |
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Good info - wasn't aware of those links.
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Thx Tom Best, John Justin On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote:
On 11/06/18 18:50, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,Indeed, but care isn't needed: just select "sold listings" :) |
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On 06/11/2018 12:28 PM, Dave Seiter wrote:
Selling items is better than watching TV, and if they get used, it's better than dumping them in landfillYes, I have a scale that goes to 5kg and a squirt bottle of diluted wood glue for putting laser printed labels on packages. Lots of things can go in flat rate USPS envelopes stuffed to resemble a football. First class package rate for a padded bubble mailer under a pound is a good way. It helps to be near a source of cardboard boxes. When I gather boxes from local retailers 130 feet from my door, I often get good packing material too. I use an old Canon S30 for photos because it gets good exposures and focuses well, and makes photos about 2400 pixels across -- not too large so they quickly can be fixed up in GIMP photo editing tool. Instead of cables to the camera, I remove and replace its compact flash card, (about 3 x 4 cm), and use that with a dedicated compact flash card reader. That all makes for a fairly quick round trip of photo shooting to serving up on a web site (craigslist or ebay). |
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Ditto here.? I haven't had a serious bidding war on any item I've sold in years either.? I financed my hobby budget in grad school by selling old junk vacuum equipment and old Tek stuff and it used to be worthwhile to sell it.? As e-bay popularity increased, I suppose more competition grew, and also large surplus sellers came on-board, which is great for buyers, not so much for individual sellers.? Fees also increased, and for that matter, shipping is through the roof now.? ??
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But I also don't "bid" now.? I always "snipe" (with auctionsniper).? ?That lets me think about the price I think the item is "worth" and what I am willing to pay for it in a calm, rational environment.? I set the desired price and walk away.? If I get it for a low bid, great, and if I go to the maximum, at least I don't end up regretting it immediately. ? Dan On Monday, June 11, 2018, 2:14:00 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:
A bidding war hasn't happened to any of my listings for years, but yeah, it's so much fun to watch!? These days, it's usually only rare items that end up in bidding wars, but certain categories see more activity than others.? Another fun event is having two or more people snipe with "silly" bids at the last second. -Dave ? ? ? From: Dennis Tillman W7PF <dennis@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale ? Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay, There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly. BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded. That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth. If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end. Dennis Tillman W7PF -----Original Message----- -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator |
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I can't count the number of times I've boxed up something and then ended up stuffing the whole thing into a flat rate padded envelope to save 50% or more on shipping.? Keeping shipping down is the biggest challenges these days.
-Dave From: John Griessen <john@...> Lots of things can go in flat rate USPS envelopes stuffed to resemble a football.??-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |
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When I first started selling, just about anything listed was sold in the first or second attempt.? I stopped selling for a long time because they dinged you for everything, and the huge volume of items meant that some things just wouldn't sell- I was losing money.? It wasn't until you could list for free that I went back to selling.
-Dave From: Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk@...> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale Ditto here.? I haven't had a serious bidding war on any item I've sold in years either.? I financed my hobby budget in grad school by selling old junk vacuum equipment and old Tek stuff and it used to be worthwhile to sell it.? As e-bay popularity increased, I suppose more competition grew, and also large surplus sellers came on-board, which is great for buyers, not so much for individual sellers.? Fees also increased, and for that matter, shipping is through the roof now.? ?? But I also don't "bid" now.? I always "snipe" (with auctionsniper).? ?That lets me think about the price I think the item is "worth" and what I am willing to pay for it in a calm, rational environment.? I set the desired price and walk away.? If I get it for a low bid, great, and if I go to the maximum, at least I don't end up regretting it immediately. ? Dan ? ? On Monday, June 11, 2018, 2:14:00 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote: A bidding war hasn't happened to any of my listings for years, but yeah, it's so much fun to watch!? These days, it's usually only rare items that end up in bidding wars, but certain categories see more activity than others.? Another fun event is having two or more people snipe with "silly" bids at the last second. -Dave ? ? ? From: Dennis Tillman W7PF <dennis@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale ? Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay, There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly. BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded. That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth. If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end. Dennis Tillman W7PF -----Original Message----- -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator |
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