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Tek 284 Pulse Gen


 

I've recently acquired a 284 that seems to need some TLC.
Before I start snooping around in it, I'm wondering if there are any "usual suspects" that I should consider.
Besides all the electrolytic capacitors. They're already on my hit list.
Thanks - Dave


 

Dave I will shoot you some information off list.

Zen

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DaveH52
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen

I've recently acquired a 284 that seems to need some TLC.
Before I start snooping around in it, I'm wondering if there are any "usual suspects" that I should consider.
Besides all the electrolytic capacitors. They're already on my hit list.
Thanks - Dave


 

Zen,
can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?
Thank you very much.


 

I don¡¯t want to spam the list, But I will put it out there since it has been a while. I have video content up on you tube specializing in restoration repair and alignment of test equipment in general however it is mostly Tektronix replated content. I am the owner of the "Zenwizard Studios" YouTube channel. I have also added links to the videos on the Tekwiki under the specific pages as well. In channel related news I am always looking for project units to put in front of the lens so If any one has anything they are willing to parts ways with let me know I am always interested. I have a moderately specified calibration lab at my disposal, though it is a bit noisy.

In terms of the 284 I am working on getting some high frequency couplers and cables in to the lab because I need to do an alignment video on the 284. But here is the info:

The only REALLY critical part in the unit is D180. If that is bad you will need a parts doner. I have tried some of the Russian TD¡¯s in place and it is true they will pulse I have not yet achieved the rise time of the speced part. I have found a company that will made replacements D180¡¯s however they were special order LONG wait time and $250.00 US Each.

The air line is a VERY strange beast and there are some faults in there that I get in to in the videos ¡°drifty resisters¡±. But the physical working space is quite tight. Especially with the funky back termination resister assembly. I do not have ANY of the required gear to align the unit in the lab however I have easer to use and more modern equivalents. DSA602A and an 11801C with a 12Ghz plugin and a good frequency counter. I need to 3.5mm to SMA converters as well as a GR->SMA to get the video going. So the alignment should be a LOT easer than the documentation. It calls for 500 series era instruments.

Channel Link -

284 specific content including D180 testing



If I can be of assistance, please let me know

Zen

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRN
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen

Zen,
can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?
Thank you very much.


 

Zen,
I like your videos and I think you do it well.


 

Thanks,
More is on the way.
Zen

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRN
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen

Zen,
I like your videos and I think you do it well.


 

Hey, Zen, if you want to buy new 3.5 mm to SMA adaptors, check out Mini-Circuits.? A couple years ago I needed some for work and found the M-C ones about a third the price of rip-off Pasternack.? $60 apiece vs. $180, IIRC, for similar specs.? Can't help you with GR adaptors, though.? Good luck!Jim FordSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

-------- Original message --------From: Zentronics42@... Date: 4/24/22 11:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen I don¡¯t want to spam the list, But I will put it out there since it has been a while. I have video content up on you tube specializing in restoration repair and alignment of test equipment in general however it is mostly Tektronix replated content. I am the owner of the "Zenwizard Studios" YouTube channel.? I have also added links to the videos on the Tekwiki under the specific pages as well. In channel related news I am always looking for project units to put in front of the lens so If any one has anything they are willing to parts ways with let me know I am always interested. I have a moderately specified calibration lab at my disposal, though it is a bit noisy. In terms of the 284 I am working on getting some high frequency couplers and cables in to the lab because I need to do an alignment video on the 284. But here is the info:The only REALLY critical part in the unit is D180. If that is bad you will need a parts doner. I have tried some of the Russian TD¡¯s in place and it is true they will pulse I have not yet achieved the rise time of the speced part. I have found a company that will made replacements D180¡¯s however they were special order LONG wait time and $250.00 US Each. The air line is a VERY strange beast and there are some faults in there that I get in to in the videos ¡°drifty resisters¡±. But the physical working space is quite tight. Especially with the funky back termination resister assembly. I do not have ANY of the required gear to align the unit in the lab however I have easer to use and more modern equivalents. DSA602A and an 11801C with a 12Ghz plugin and a good frequency counter. I need to 3.5mm to SMA converters as well as a GR->SMA to get the video going. So the alignment should be a LOT easer than the documentation. It calls for 500 series era instruments. Channel Link - specific content including D180 testing I can be of assistance, please let me knowZen-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRNSent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:34 PMTo: TekScopes@...: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse GenZen,can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?Thank you very much.


 

I second Jim's recommendation. In addition to better pricing, Mini-Circuits just has nicer folks. Pasternack once actually made one of my former admins weep. She had never been so mistreated by a vendor. I've not bought from them in 25 years as a result.

Tom

--
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070

On 4/24/2022 12:19, Jim Ford wrote:
Hey, Zen, if you want to buy new 3.5 mm to SMA adaptors, check out Mini-Circuits.? A couple years ago I needed some for work and found the M-C ones about a third the price of rip-off Pasternack.? $60 apiece vs. $180, IIRC, for similar specs.? Can't help you with GR adaptors, though.? Good luck!Jim FordSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------From: Zentronics42@... Date: 4/24/22 11:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen I don¡¯t want to spam the list, But I will put it out there since it has been a while. I have video content up on you tube specializing in restoration repair and alignment of test equipment in general however it is mostly Tektronix replated content. I am the owner of the "Zenwizard Studios" YouTube channel.? I have also added links to the videos on the Tekwiki under the specific pages as well. In channel related news I am always looking for project units to put in front of the lens so If any one has anything they are willing to parts ways with let me know I am always interested. I have a moderately specified calibration lab at my disposal, though it is a bit noisy. In terms of the 284 I am working on getting some high frequency couplers and cables in to the lab because I need to do an alignment video on the 284. But here is the info:The only REALLY critical part in the unit is D180. If that is bad you will need a parts doner. I have tried some of the Russian TD¡¯s in place and it is true they will pulse I have not yet achieved the rise time of the speced part. I have found a company that will made replacements D180¡¯s however they were special order LONG wait time and $250.00 US Each. The air line is a VERY strange beast and there are some faults in there that I get in to in the videos ¡°drifty resisters¡±. But the physical working space is quite tight. Especially with the funky back termination resister assembly. I do not have ANY of the required gear to align the unit in the lab however I have easer to use and more modern equivalents. DSA602A and an 11801C with a 12Ghz plugin and a good frequency counter. I need to 3.5mm to SMA converters as well as a GR->SMA to get the video going. So the alignment should be a LOT easer than the documentation. It calls for 500 series era instruments. Channel Link - specific content including D180 testing I can be of assistance, please let me knowZen-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRNSent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:34 PMTo: TekScopes@...: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse GenZen,can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?Thank you very much.



 

I will check them out. I have a mini circuits DC block for the spectrum analyzer that is really nice. Was reasonable priced, As reasonably priced as a DC block well in to the Ghz can be. If that is the case I might be able to sneak it in with the 7510 meter cal this week.

Zen

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen

I second Jim's recommendation. In addition to better pricing, Mini-Circuits just has nicer folks. Pasternack once actually made one of my former admins weep. She had never been so mistreated by a vendor.
I've not bought from them in 25 years as a result.

Tom

--
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070


On 4/24/2022 12:19, Jim Ford wrote:
Hey, Zen, if you want to buy new 3.5 mm to SMA adaptors, check out
Mini-Circuits. A couple years ago I needed some for work and found
the M-C ones about a third the price of rip-off Pasternack. $60
apiece vs. $180, IIRC, for similar specs. Can't help you with GR
adaptors, though. Good luck!Jim FordSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE
Device
-------- Original message --------From: Zentronics42@... Date: 4/24/22 11:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen I don¡¯t want to spam the list, But I will put it out there since it has been a while. I have video content up on you tube specializing in restoration repair and alignment of test equipment in general however it is mostly Tektronix replated content. I am the owner of the "Zenwizard Studios" YouTube channel. I have also added links to the videos on the Tekwiki under the specific pages as well. In channel related news I am always looking for project units to put in front of the lens so If any one has anything they are willing to parts ways with let me know I am always interested. I have a moderately specified calibration lab at my disposal, though it is a bit noisy. In terms of the 284 I am working on getting some high frequency couplers and cables in to the lab because I need to do an alignment video on the 284. But here is the info:The only REALLY critical part in the unit is D180. If that is bad you will need a parts doner. I have tried some of the Russian TD¡¯s in place and it is true they will pulse I have not yet achieved the rise time of the speced part. I have found a company that will made replacements D180¡¯s however they were special order LONG wait time and $250.00 US Each. The air line is a VERY strange beast and there are some faults in there that I get in to in the videos ¡°drifty resisters¡±. But the physical working space is quite tight. Especially with the funky back termination resister assembly. I do not have ANY of the required gear to align the unit in the lab however I have easer to use and more modern equivalents. DSA602A and an 11801C with a 12Ghz plugin and a good frequency counter. I need to 3.5mm to SMA converters as well as a GR->SMA to get the video going. So the alignment should be a LOT easer than the documentation. It calls for 500 series era instruments. Channel Link - specific content including D180 testing I can be of assistance, please let me knowZen-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRNSent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:34 PMTo: TekScopes@...: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse GenZen,can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?Thank you very much.




 

And in the era of paper, much better catalogs.? Pasternack's always seemed to be so cheap in quality.? Hardly any info/data.? We used them as an alternate source of last resort.
-Dave

On Sunday, April 24, 2022, 12:25:55 PM PDT, Tom Lee <tomlee@...> wrote:

I second Jim's recommendation. In addition to better pricing,
Mini-Circuits just has nicer folks. Pasternack once actually made one of
my former admins weep. She had never been so mistreated by a vendor.
I've not bought from them in 25 years as a result.

Tom

--
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070


On 4/24/2022 12:19, Jim Ford wrote:
Hey, Zen, if you want to buy new 3.5 mm to SMA adaptors, check out Mini-Circuits.? A couple years ago I needed some for work and found the M-C ones about a third the price of rip-off Pasternack.? $60 apiece vs. $180, IIRC, for similar specs.? Can't help you with GR adaptors, though.? Good luck!Jim FordSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------From: Zentronics42@... Date: 4/24/22? 11:14 AM? (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen I don¡¯t want to spam the list, But I will put it out there since it has been a while. I have video content up on you tube specializing in restoration repair and alignment of test equipment in general however it is mostly Tektronix replated content. I am the owner of the "Zenwizard Studios" YouTube channel.? I have also added links to the videos on the Tekwiki under the specific pages as well. In channel related news I am always looking for project units to put in front of the lens so If any one has anything they are willing to parts ways with let me know I am always interested. I have a moderately specified calibration lab at my disposal, though it is a bit noisy. In terms of the 284 I am working on getting some high frequency couplers and cables in to the lab because I need to do an alignment video on the 284. But here is the info:The only REALLY critical part in the unit is D180. If that is bad you will need a parts doner. I have tried some of the Russian TD¡¯s in place and it is true they will pulse I have not yet achieved the rise time of the speced part. I have found a company that will made replacements D180¡¯s however they were special order LONG wait time and $250.00 US Each. The air line is a VERY strange beast and there are some faults in there that I get in to in the videos ¡°drifty resisters¡±. But the physical working space is quite tight. Especially with the funky back termination resister assembly. I do not have ANY of the required gear to align the unit in the lab however I have easer to use and more modern equivalents. DSA602A and an 11801C with a 12Ghz plugin and a good frequency counter. I need to 3.5mm to SMA converters as well as a GR->SMA to get the video going. So the alignment should be a LOT easer than the documentation. It calls for 500 series era instruments. Channel Link - specific content including D180 testing I can be of assistance, please let me knowZen-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRNSent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:34 PMTo: TekScopes@...: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse GenZen,can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?Thank you very much.




 

This is all well timed and awesome information. I was looking at the Pasternack gear because that is what was popping up in searches. Fortunately no money has changed hands yet. Ill be speaking with mini-circuits on the early side of next week.

Zen

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Seiter
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 7:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen

And in the era of paper, much better catalogs. Pasternack's always seemed to be so cheap in quality. Hardly any info/data. We used them as an alternate source of last resort.
-Dave
On Sunday, April 24, 2022, 12:25:55 PM PDT, Tom Lee <tomlee@...> wrote:

I second Jim's recommendation. In addition to better pricing, Mini-Circuits just has nicer folks. Pasternack once actually made one of my former admins weep. She had never been so mistreated by a vendor.
I've not bought from them in 25 years as a result.

Tom

--
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070


On 4/24/2022 12:19, Jim Ford wrote:
Hey, Zen, if you want to buy new 3.5 mm to SMA adaptors, check out
Mini-Circuits. A couple years ago I needed some for work and found
the M-C ones about a third the price of rip-off Pasternack. $60
apiece vs. $180, IIRC, for similar specs. Can't help you with GR
adaptors, though. Good luck!Jim FordSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE
Device
-------- Original message --------From: Zentronics42@... Date: 4/24/22 11:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse Gen I don¡¯t want to spam the list, But I will put it out there since it has been a while. I have video content up on you tube specializing in restoration repair and alignment of test equipment in general however it is mostly Tektronix replated content. I am the owner of the "Zenwizard Studios" YouTube channel. I have also added links to the videos on the Tekwiki under the specific pages as well. In channel related news I am always looking for project units to put in front of the lens so If any one has anything they are willing to parts ways with let me know I am always interested. I have a moderately specified calibration lab at my disposal, though it is a bit noisy. In terms of the 284 I am working on getting some high frequency couplers and cables in to the lab because I need to do an alignment video on the 284. But here is the info:The only REALLY critical part in the unit is D180. If that is bad you will need a parts doner. I have tried some of the Russian TD¡¯s in place and it is true they will pulse I have not yet achieved the rise time of the speced part. I have found a company that will made replacements D180¡¯s however they were special order LONG wait time and $250.00 US Each. The air line is a VERY strange beast and there are some faults in there that I get in to in the videos ¡°drifty resisters¡±. But the physical working space is quite tight. Especially with the funky back termination resister assembly. I do not have ANY of the required gear to align the unit in the lab however I have easer to use and more modern equivalents. DSA602A and an 11801C with a 12Ghz plugin and a good frequency counter. I need to 3.5mm to SMA converters as well as a GR->SMA to get the video going. So the alignment should be a LOT easer than the documentation. It calls for 500 series era instruments. Channel Link - specific content including D180 testing I can be of assistance, please let me knowZen-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JRNSent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:34 PMTo: TekScopes@...: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 284 Pulse GenZen,can you please post the info here, so that everyone can benefit?Thank you very much.




 

Pasternack is also quite a price gouger. I have found identical components from other vendors at considerably lower prices. Why pay $75.00 for a one foot N(M) to N(M) cable with standard coax?

Greg