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[hp_agilent_equipment] 7854 (was "e-Bay "Make offer" - CAMERA TUBE.... OT" on hp-agilent group)


 

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John,

I'm moving this to the TekScopes Yahoo group.

In answer to your question, no, I have not done more than look briefly at the ops manual. That is why I wrote that I may not know how to make it work yet. I downloaded a PDF of the operator's manual yesterday and will hopefully get a chance to play with the 'scope tonight. The display seems to work just fine, and I have loaded it with a vertical amp and time base and I am able to display signals from a function generator, so it is most likely me and not the 'scope that is not working correctly. The 'scope came with a 7B87 that has a coax terminated in a BNC connector coming out of the plug-in. I haven't looked to see what circuit node is being brought out by the coax. I plan to put a couple of 7A18s that I have in it, along with 7B87s (I have two, now) and see what's what. I did notice in the Tek catalog that the 7B87 is required if one wants to use the pre-trigger feature. Eventually I'll get a pair of 7A24s for use in my 7000-series 'scopes.

The 'scope is in very good cosmetic condition, so it does not appear to have been abused. For $225, I couldn't resist buying it, even if it needs some work, particularly as it is *supposed* to work.

I have PDFs of both the user and service manual, and I have an original of the service manual. I was pretty amused to see how big the service manual is (I thought the package contained a different instrument that I had purchased until I unpacked it and saw this huge and heavy manual). I need to buy an original Operator's Instruction Manual.

DaveD


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] e-Bay "Make offer" - CAMERA TUBE.... OT
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:40:24 -0800 (PST)
From: J. Forster
Reply-To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...


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> I bought a "guaranteed working" 7854 on eBay and it arrived in what was
> obviously too small a box. The packaging was barely good enough to
> preserve the 'scope's condition, but it appears that nothing was damaged.
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> The 'scope doesn't seem to work, but I may not know how to make it work
> yet. It shows "Self Test Complete", but then that message never goes away.

Have you read the manual? Somehow I suspect not! If it prints text on the
screen, odds are it's OK.

> I also purchased a 7B85A with manual, and a 7B92A. The 7B92A was
> delivered, and it had a manual with it, which was a surprise. But the
> bigger surprise came when the 7B85A arrived without a manual and turned
> out to actually be another 7B92A. The first 7B92A that I received was
> actually from the 7B85A auction. Looking more closely at the auction
> photo shows a 7B92A and manual, with text describing a 7B85A. The second
> 7B92A was the one I knew I was buying. I now realize that there is no
> such thing as a 7B85A, only a 7B85. This has had me confused for several
> days. I now have two working 7B92As. Guess I didn't need a 7B85A!

For full functionality, you need a 7B87 and one or more 7Axx Vertical
plug-ins. A 7B92A will work, but the A/DS functions will be limited.

Also, to use the scope's smart functions, you need the keyboard (or
operate it through the interface).

You really need at very least the User Manual. The4 Service manual is huge
and you probably do not need that.

-John

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> On 2/21/2013 10:47 AM, Daniel Koller wrote:
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>> Sorry, this begs the question, what are you doing with a US camera
>> tube in the UK? I'm pretty sure your TV system was completely
>> different from ours.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Paul Bicknell testeq@...
>> >
>> To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
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>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:34 PM
>> Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] e-Bay "Make offer"
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>> Hi Dave
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>> Sorry to hear about the smashed up equipment
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>> Could you let the rest of us into the Sellers Name so that we don't end
>> up
>> with smashed up equipment
>>
>> I recently had a TV camera tube sent from the US it arrived in tact
>> and the right way up I was lucky
>>
>> Regards Paul B South Coast UK radio@...
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>>
>> _____
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>> From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
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>> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...
>> ] On Behalf Of David
>> Kirkby
>> Sent: 21 February 2013 17:06
>> To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
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>> Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] e-Bay "Make offer"
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>> On 21 February 2013 15:31, Lizeth Norman normanlizeth@...
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>> > wrote:
>> > I was pointing out that some sellers are just complete idiots!
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>> > Snip
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>> > Gala
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>> I agree. In fact some of the arguments I've had with eBay sellers has
>> been down to their total stupidity.
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>> I won an auction for an HP oscillator model X. After the auction the
>> seller tells me he has a model Y, if I would have prefered that. I
>> looked up the specs of Y, found they were inferior to that of X, so I
>> said I wanted model X, which was what the auction was for. So what
>> does the idiot send me? Model Y of course.
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>> What I found odd though, is that the stupdity of these sellers always
>> seems to result in me getting something inferior to what was
>> auctioned, rather than superior.
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>> Packaging seems to be an issue which lets lots of sellers down. I will
>> not again buy an expensive/heavy bit of test kit, unless I am sure the
>> seller knows how to package it properly. Here is how some studid idiot
>> shipped an vector network analyzer from the US to the UK.
>>
>>
>> ging/badly-shipped-8753A-and-85046A.jpg
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>> Needless to say it arrived in the UK quite smashed up, and the US
>> seller was less than helpful.
>>
>> Dave
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