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All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically present.
Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that show
this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as "2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be branded
as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD

My scope is 2465 DMS and it has DMM also - not an add-on.
Someone said that mine is 2465 CTS (but I think all CRT scopes can be
called that).
As per catalog Tektronix put out, I could not find my model either!
But there are many catalogs that are incomplete, I think.
If your scope works, the manual for 2465B should be the same.
Also, look at the back of your scope and find a silver tape that has
options printed on it with small holes punched out, if you have that
option.
That is how mine has options 1, 9, 10 and GPIB port.
See if on the back is any other "model number".

I'm looking for the software that would communicate with my computer - does
anyone have the software and or manual for it?
Also, I have a port for P6407 - I also need as much help with that and
software that, I assume, it will need.

Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:

All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically present.
Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that show
this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as "2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be branded
as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD

Tony,

FYI, Tektronix produced a number of 2465 model "packages" that included
certain options. I have 2465DVS and it has a DMM.

*Model Includes options*
2465 CTS 9, 10, 22
2465 DMS 1, 9, 10, 22
2465 DVS 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465A CT 9, 10, 22
2465A DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465A DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465B CT 9, 10, 22
2465B DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465B DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22



Ken
WA2LBI





On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:03 PM Tony Fleming <czecht@...> wrote:

My scope is 2465 DMS and it has DMM also - not an add-on.
Someone said that mine is 2465 CTS (but I think all CRT scopes can be
called that).
As per catalog Tektronix put out, I could not find my model either!
But there are many catalogs that are incomplete, I think.
If your scope works, the manual for 2465B should be the same.
Also, look at the back of your scope and find a silver tape that has
options printed on it with small holes punched out, if you have that
option.
That is how mine has options 1, 9, 10 and GPIB port.
See if on the back is any other "model number".

I'm looking for the software that would communicate with my computer -

does

anyone have the software and or manual for it?
Also, I have a port for P6407 - I also need as much help with that and
software that, I assume, it will need.

Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:

All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically present.
Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that show
this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as "2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be branded
as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD

Great information, and thank you for that.
The option 22 are some probes - but I do not know what probes they were.
If you know, or anyone else, let me know please.
Do you have, or do you know where I can get the software for the P6407/GPIB
Word Recog?
I also would like to know how to use it - I can't find much on the Internet
about it.
But someone is sending me the P6407, it should be here by end of next week.
You have a great day!
Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:27 PM Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@...> wrote:

Tony,

FYI, Tektronix produced a number of 2465 model "packages" that included
certain options. I have 2465DVS and it has a DMM.

*Model Includes options*
2465 CTS 9, 10, 22
2465 DMS 1, 9, 10, 22
2465 DVS 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465A CT 9, 10, 22
2465A DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465A DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465B CT 9, 10, 22
2465B DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465B DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22



Ken
WA2LBI





On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:03 PM Tony Fleming <czecht@...> wrote:

My scope is 2465 DMS and it has DMM also - not an add-on.
Someone said that mine is 2465 CTS (but I think all CRT scopes can be
called that).
As per catalog Tektronix put out, I could not find my model either!
But there are many catalogs that are incomplete, I think.
If your scope works, the manual for 2465B should be the same.
Also, look at the back of your scope and find a silver tape that has
options printed on it with small holes punched out, if you have that
option.
That is how mine has options 1, 9, 10 and GPIB port.
See if on the back is any other "model number".

I'm looking for the software that would communicate with my computer -

does

anyone have the software and or manual for it?
Also, I have a port for P6407 - I also need as much help with that and
software that, I assume, it will need.

Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:

All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically present.
Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that show
this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as "2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be branded
as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD

Other than perhaps a few examples, there really
was no software for the GPIB versions of
2465 scopes. You were expected to write your
own GPIB test routines for whatever GPIB controller
you chose to use.

The GPIB option is/was virtually useless for most users,
it was intended to automatically set up the front
panel of the scope, and to draw instructions on the
screen to tell the generally unqualified service drone
what he should do next for what ever equipment he was
working on that he did not understand..

Exciting stuff like:

Turn the gafoozle adjustment until the waveform fits
within the waveform boundary box.
Adjust the parabooz control for two wiggles.
Adjust the fleurbam control for leading and trailing points.
If the waveform shown on the screen doesn't match the
normalized batman waveform shown on the screen call
your supervisor.

It cannot download the screen, as the scope is not
a digitizing scope. I'm pretty sure that it cannot even
download the results of the parametric measurements.

The major users of the GPIB option were the military,
they used it to direct non technically minded military
personnel in how to adjust ICBM's, fire control, fighter
jets, and ???? It is the reason that so many 2465's were
rack mounted.

-Chuck Harris

Tony Fleming wrote:

Great information, and thank you for that.
The option 22 are some probes - but I do not know what probes they were.
If you know, or anyone else, let me know please.
Do you have, or do you know where I can get the software for the

P6407/GPIB

Word Recog?
I also would like to know how to use it - I can't find much on the

Internet

about it.
But someone is sending me the P6407, it should be here by end of next

week.

You have a great day!
Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:27 PM Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@...> wrote:

Tony,

FYI, Tektronix produced a number of 2465 model "packages" that included
certain options. I have 2465DVS and it has a DMM.

*Model Includes options*
2465 CTS 9, 10, 22
2465 DMS 1, 9, 10, 22
2465 DVS 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465A CT 9, 10, 22
2465A DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465A DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465B CT 9, 10, 22
2465B DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465B DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22



Ken
WA2LBI





On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:03 PM Tony Fleming <czecht@...> wrote:

My scope is 2465 DMS and it has DMM also - not an add-on.
Someone said that mine is 2465 CTS (but I think all CRT scopes can be
called that).
As per catalog Tektronix put out, I could not find my model either!
But there are many catalogs that are incomplete, I think.
If your scope works, the manual for 2465B should be the same.
Also, look at the back of your scope and find a silver tape that has
options printed on it with small holes punched out, if you have that
option.
That is how mine has options 1, 9, 10 and GPIB port.
See if on the back is any other "model number".

I'm looking for the software that would communicate with my computer -

does

anyone have the software and or manual for it?
Also, I have a port for P6407 - I also need as much help with that and
software that, I assume, it will need.

Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:

All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically present.
Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that show
this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as "2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be

branded

as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD

'Special Edition' is what Tek designated the 2465 series you ask about. It
was a 'Top of Line' designation with fully or nearly fully optioned
packages offered at a discount and consisted of three Special Edition
models (slightly ReDesignated when suffixed as A/B). The carring handles
display 'Special Edition' on the label.

2465 CTS options - GPIB, CTT/WR (counter/timer with word recognizer).
2465 DMS options - GPIB, CTT/WR + DMM.
2465 DVM options - GPIB, CTT/WR, DMM + TV.

2465A CT options - GPIB, CTT/WR.
2465A DM options - GPIB, CTT/WR + DMM.
2465A DV options - GPIB, CTT/WR, DMM + TV.

2465B CT options - GPIB, CTT/WR.
2465B DM options - GPIB, CTT/WR + DMM.
2465B DV options - GPIB, CTT/WR, DMM + TV.

Regarding probes, I think all 2465 scopes (Special Edition or not) were
supplied with 4 probes, Unless ordered with option 22 which DELETED 2
probes.

options designations:
GPIB 10
CTT/WR 9
DMM 1
TV 5

On Wed, 1 May 2019 21:02:32 -0500, you wrote:

Great information, and thank you for that.
The option 22 are some probes - but I do not know what probes they were.
If you know, or anyone else, let me know please.
Do you have, or do you know where I can get the software for the

P6407/GPIB

Word Recog?
I also would like to know how to use it - I can't find much on the

Internet

about it.
But someone is sending me the P6407, it should be here by end of next

week.

There's a digital trigger option with a word recognizer, that allows
you to trigger on a digital pattern. That's what the P6407 is used
for. The GPIB option would simply allow you to set that pattern, if
at all, and whatever trigger qualities you need.

Attach the leads to digital signals, set the pattern you want for a
trigger, and the scope should trigger on that one. Never really used
it on my 2430A, but got the trigger generator anyway. Turns out to be
more useful to have a logic analyzer for what I was doing, and I do.

This was a foray into the logic analyzer domain of products to allow
the scope different characteristics.

You use this for digital only and a logic analyzer is better. You use
a digital trigger to look at an analog waveform, and you need either
this scope or we need a logic analyzer with a scope plugin (or
triggering of the scope from the LA.

Harvey

You have a great day!
Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:27 PM Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@...> wrote:

Tony,

FYI, Tektronix produced a number of 2465 model "packages" that included
certain options. I have 2465DVS and it has a DMM.

*Model Includes options*
2465 CTS 9, 10, 22
2465 DMS 1, 9, 10, 22
2465 DVS 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465A CT 9, 10, 22
2465A DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465A DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465B CT 9, 10, 22
2465B DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465B DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22



Ken
WA2LBI





On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:03 PM Tony Fleming <czecht@...> wrote:

My scope is 2465 DMS and it has DMM also - not an add-on.
Someone said that mine is 2465 CTS (but I think all CRT scopes can be
called that).
As per catalog Tektronix put out, I could not find my model either!
But there are many catalogs that are incomplete, I think.
If your scope works, the manual for 2465B should be the same.
Also, look at the back of your scope and find a silver tape that has
options printed on it with small holes punched out, if you have that
option.
That is how mine has options 1, 9, 10 and GPIB port.
See if on the back is any other "model number".

I'm looking for the software that would communicate with my computer -

does

anyone have the software and or manual for it?
Also, I have a port for P6407 - I also need as much help with that and
software that, I assume, it will need.

Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:

All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically

present.

Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that show
this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as "2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be

branded

as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD

On Thu, 2 May 2019 10:07:39 -0500, you wrote:

After reading your email Harvey I went to see what is available and I
agree, it would be nice to have it also.

Yep, I have about 10-15 scopes, variously, and a number of V and H
plugins to deal with. Those are good things to have. A good set of
extenders is also nice to have, although you can do some work without
them.

If you're working with the TM500/TM5000 series, then a good set of
extender boards is really nice to have.

I need to slow down, I would spend myself into a hole in the ground!
For some reason I do not go just 10%, I must go 100% and run out of time

to

play with it all!

Slow down a bit, plan what you want, then go over that with an idea of
what you need....

Then try to get it.

Hamfests can be good.

I'll donate my stuff to a club when I'm gone, hope someone will have fun
with some of my stuff one day!

Always good to spread the wealth that way.

Harvey

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:12 PM Harvey White <madyn@...>

wrote:

On Wed, 1 May 2019 21:02:32 -0500, you wrote:

Great information, and thank you for that.
The option 22 are some probes - but I do not know what probes they

were.

If you know, or anyone else, let me know please.
Do you have, or do you know where I can get the software for the

P6407/GPIB

Word Recog?
I also would like to know how to use it - I can't find much on the

Internet

about it.
But someone is sending me the P6407, it should be here by end of next

week.

There's a digital trigger option with a word recognizer, that allows
you to trigger on a digital pattern. That's what the P6407 is used
for. The GPIB option would simply allow you to set that pattern, if
at all, and whatever trigger qualities you need.

Attach the leads to digital signals, set the pattern you want for a
trigger, and the scope should trigger on that one. Never really used
it on my 2430A, but got the trigger generator anyway. Turns out to be
more useful to have a logic analyzer for what I was doing, and I do.

This was a foray into the logic analyzer domain of products to allow
the scope different characteristics.

You use this for digital only and a logic analyzer is better. You use
a digital trigger to look at an analog waveform, and you need either
this scope or we need a logic analyzer with a scope plugin (or
triggering of the scope from the LA.

Harvey

You have a great day!
Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:27 PM Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@...>

wrote:

Tony,

FYI, Tektronix produced a number of 2465 model "packages" that

included

certain options. I have 2465DVS and it has a DMM.

*Model Includes options*
2465 CTS 9, 10, 22
2465 DMS 1, 9, 10, 22
2465 DVS 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465A CT 9, 10, 22
2465A DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465A DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22
2465B CT 9, 10, 22
2465B DM 1, 9, 10, 22
2465B DV 1, 5, 9, 10, 22



Ken
WA2LBI





On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:03 PM Tony Fleming <czecht@...>

wrote:

My scope is 2465 DMS and it has DMM also - not an add-on.
Someone said that mine is 2465 CTS (but I think all CRT scopes can

be

called that).
As per catalog Tektronix put out, I could not find my model either!
But there are many catalogs that are incomplete, I think.
If your scope works, the manual for 2465B should be the same.
Also, look at the back of your scope and find a silver tape that

has

options printed on it with small holes punched out, if you have

that

option.
That is how mine has options 1, 9, 10 and GPIB port.
See if on the back is any other "model number".

I'm looking for the software that would communicate with my

computer -

does

anyone have the software and or manual for it?
Also, I have a port for P6407 - I also need as much help with that

and

software that, I assume, it will need.

Tony

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...>

wrote:

All,

I have a Trektronix 2465B that has the DMM option physically

present.

Looking at the TekWki web page for the 2465B, I see photos that

show

this 'scope branded as "2465BVD". My 'scope is branded as

"2465B".

The DVM does not appear to have been an add-on.

Can anyone explain how a 2465B with the DMM option would not be

branded

as a 2465BDV?

Thanks

DaveD