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Re: All Composite W10 anyone???


 

On the?F1 racers that have been retrofitted with carbon wings and tail some have had the steel tube fuselage completely covered with carbon shells.?
The record setting Biplane racer has a steel tube forward fuselage. Aft of pilot seat is all carbon with empennage permanently attached. Carbon portion bolts to steel tubing portion.
I think Nemesis was also built that way but no steel tubing,all carbon fiber.
The early F1 that Art School rebuilt had all steel tube fuselage covered with fiberglass.?

On Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 09:13:23 AM MST, Gerry van Dyk <gerry.vandyk@...> wrote:


It's an interesting prospect Mike.? The one nagging feeling I have is that large flat panels are not where composites shine.? They're certainly much better suited to round sexy shapes, as have been used on many 'fast-glass' airplanes.? I suspect you'd need plenty of ribs and longerons molded on the interior surface, though now that I'm thinking of it, foam sandwich panels could be workable as well.? Just to toss a random thought out there, how about a relatively open composite framework, with shapes well suited to composites, and then do a final covering in fabric to close it all in.

It'll be interesting to see where the engineering takes you.? ;^)

Gerry


On 10/09/24 09:41 AM, "Don Norris via groups.io" <danorrisfly@...> wrote:
This is experimental aviation. I'd love to see you build a composite Tailwind!



On Wednesday, October 9th, 2024 at 6:42 AM, Standleys via groups.io <Standleys@...> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. Being kind, the welding on this fuselage is nothing I would ever want to fly. I'm a good welder as long as it's 1/4" thick mild steel and I'm running a mig. I recently purchased a tig but haven't started using it yet. I'm in awe of you guys producing beautiful welds with gas. It intimidates me.

The tailwind really lends itself to simple composite parts made from temporary molds. The corners meet would have overlapping scarf joints and doublers inside and out.?

It's possible to achieve an all up airframe minus engine and prop in the 500-550 lb range (depending on material choices) with very smooth surfaces and clean lines. Could it produce a 250mph ship with an O320/150hp? Maybe?

Keep the comments coming!

All the best
--
Mike S?
Wannabe W10 builder using Corsair power and composites wherever possible....

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