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teak maintenance
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ackermwi
Recent discussions have touched on teak maintenance. So far I've
heard about epoxy, but with a response that it's not working too well after 3 years. the other recommendation was for Cetol. Anybody have other recommendations? Is anyone cleaning teak successfully by any means other than sanding? Re Cetol, there are 3 types for marine apps: Lite, Marine and Teak. Any recommendations which one? I understand that the Teak type contains a new type of UV inhibitor, which should be a plus. --Bill #327 |
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Bill,
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There is a link that you should read about teak care/maintenance: My personal experience with working with the one and two part teak cleaners was pretty good. They got most (if not all) of the really dark spots to lighten up before finishing. These cleaners can raise up the grain a bit so it is best to do a light hand sanding on the spots you have treated. On sanding, I reccommend using the wet/dry black sandpaper as when the paper gets full of dust you just soak it in water for a minute or two and it is (nearly) as good as new and ready to be used again. The finer the grit the better (120, 180, 220 etc) as it will wear the teak down less and leave a nice smooth surface. I always put teak oil on bare teak as I am a sucker for the way it brings out the color and grain. Let it dry and re-coat as necessary but wipe down with acetone before finishing. I am also a sucker for the way varnished teak looks but I am getting quite tired of the maintenance the varnish requires especially on the toe/rub rail. The varnish on the wood in my cabin has held up wonderfully but all of the external teak requires a lot of work to keep it looking it's best. While I have not put any Cetol on my external teak (yet) I have applied it to a friends 32' Endeavor. The trick with Cetol seems to be to use either the Marine or Teak Cetol first, applying at least 2 coats and then topping it with another 2 coats of the clear stuff. This is what other boat owners who use Cetol have told me. The annual maintenance for Cetol seems to be to do the lightest of sanding prior to putting a fresh coat of Clear Cetol in the spring. Cetol looks pretty good on teak as long as you don't get varnish envy while looking at someones beautifully varnished boat. There is also a finish called Bristol Finish which is supposed to be quite durable but is fairly expensive that I have not used. I think the finish is more like a varnish finish but tougher. Your mileage on the use of clear epoxy may vary from mine. I used it on the lazarette covers and it is starting to yellow where it is separating from the wood. I am chipping away at the yellow spots in the hope that I wont have to sand all the epoxy coating off. I also only put varnish on top of the clear epoxy and it might have held up better had I used a Cetol product to protect the epoxy from UV rays. Even though an employee at Worst Marine swore to me that he did it on his boat and it had held up great I still think it is more work than necessary with potentially questionable benefits. Good luck with your external teak. Caleb D #328 Odalisque -----Original Message-----
From: ackermwi <back22@...> To: T27Owners@... Sent: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:02 pm Subject: [T27Owners] teak maintenance Recent discussions have touched on teak maintenance. So far I've heard about epoxy, but with a response that it's not working too well after 3 years. the other recommendation was for Cetol. Anybody have other recommendations? Is anyone cleaning teak successfully by any means other than sanding? Re Cetol, there are 3 types for marine apps: Lite, Marine and Teak. Any recommendations which one? I understand that the Teak type contains a new type of UV inhibitor, which should be a plus. --Bill #327 Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. |
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My plan for the teak has been to use a really thin 30% low v non blushing epoxy to 70% xylol. mix? to deeply penetrate the wood and create a base for the varnish.. then I just used my orbital sander with 220 grit to smooth things out and am researching varnishes for finish coat... I'll post the pics when I'm done.. I agree with you Caleb that actually leaving a a surface veneer of epoxy on? the wood will lead to problems in the future since the wood is going to expand and contract, I think the key is to modify the wood fibres to create a more stable base for a finish.. especially the toe rails if they are submerged once in a while.
I've used Cetol and have experimented with other finishes on the last couple of boats I owned and they do a good job but pale next to a nice varnish... weather here on Cape Cod great for sailing... too bad the O'day doesn't like anything over 10 knots... I've got a few people interested in buying it though... Rich
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ackermwi
Caleb,
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thanks for the response. The link is pretty thorough, although I think started feeling depressed towards then end when he mentioned six coats! Ah, well, at least working on the boat isn't actually at all like 'work':) I think I'll start by using Don Casey's suggestion of light cleaner first and see how it goes. --Bill --- In T27Owners@..., calebjess@... wrote:
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emma peal
An old-timer once told me to use spic& span - that was
when they had the old, strong, must-rinse formula. Now I am using Jabsco (?) with bleach: this is something that house painters use to remove mildew and dirt before painting trim. It works very much like the Wolman deck cleaner, which "lifts" the grey gunk off, and you just use a scrubbie (3M) on it after waiting a few minutes and rinse thoroughly. You can also use Oxy clean ( no kidding! and much cheaper) You may have to do it twice, but it is less wearing on the teak than acid. The pink of the teak comes up better when you don't use bleach, but I think the bleach is best on the first wash. Then I usually use a light coat of that Norweigan teak oil, the name escapes me. Have to do it every year, but it is less work than scraping, sanding & urethaning... Diane, T27 Triumph --- ackermwi <back22@...> wrote: Recent discussions have touched on teak maintenance. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. |
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