If anyone is interested, I have a "74 T27, in VERY good condition in Hudson Fla, I will be selling quite soon.... Blurise2@... On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 11:35 AM Warren Stein via groups.io <wrsteinesq@...> wrote:
Stefan, I was happy to read of your proposal for the Sag Harbor boat, and sorry you and your grandson missed out. I may have a solution for you, albeit one requiring a whole lot of work. I actually have two Tartan 27s. Back around 2005 we bought and sailed one Tartan 27 for a season and had a blast, but decided to do some major overhaul things, and life got in the way, and several years went by. Then I fell into a screaming deal for another T27 which was farther along as a project, and turned my energies to that. Ten long years later we launched Hull No. 90, and life is good. But the original boat is still sitting in my driveway, and there is no reasonable chance that either my son or I will be reverting to that project. It¡¯s not for the faint of heart.
There¡¯s no mincing words: she¡¯s a project. A big honkin¡¯ project. Bare hull, mostly stripped out below, no engine in her, but I do have an electric motor set-up as well as a lot of A4 parts; soft spots in deck. But I¡¯ve still got most all bits and pieces, all kinds of stuff, including mast and boom, at least some sails, God-only-knows what else the garage may yield (and I wouldn¡¯t mind recovering the garage space.) The trailer she sits on shouldn¡¯t be trusted at all, but it¡¯s available for the taking, which might or might not be worth the effort. And you can¡¯t beat the price for the whole shootin¡¯ match: FREE.
You¡¯re on the Cape, and my boat is on the hard in Waterford, VA. An old and now-gone boatbuilder on the Cape, Cap¡¯t. Pete Culler, used to say ¡°People don¡¯t build boats. Boats build people.¡± My own 21-year old son will vouch for that: he grew up learning all the skills that went into Hull No. 90, and the week doesn¡¯t go by that he doesn¡¯t thank me again for all the skills he¡¯s learned through the boat project(s). It sounds like your grandson might be bold enough for such a challenge. Anyway, thought I¡¯d put it out there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Galazzi <cptnstef@...>
To: Scott Rosasco <scottrosasco@...>
Cc: [email protected]; Max Michel <maxfuzion@...>
Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Boat for free....
Thanks for the update. 'Tis the way it goes. I hope the new owner finds her in the condition as described.
It is sad, when we old sailors have to haul down the main and find another activity. if possible, the ocean blue or we can stand knee deep and feel the warm ocean water between our toes.
Fair seas and not too much wind over the stern.... when you start to reef.
Stef
Stefan Galazzi
cell phone: 904-347-6761
cptnstef@...
PO Box 429, 02662-0429
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:13 PM Scott Rosasco <scottrosasco@...> wrote:
?Just as an FYI, I got an email today from the owner that the boat is gone. Sailed away.
On Oct 16, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Stefan Galazzi <cptnstef@...> wrote:
?
I am definitely interested in your vessel. I've owned a T27 and sailed her East Coast for years. In addition I sailed on her as "co-pilot" with my 18 year old son.
His Solo trip... Cape Cod to Miami on to Nassau for the winter. I flew down in the spring and we sailed back to Wilmington and he took her to the Chesapeake.
No problems. I hold a CG license: 100 tons, coastal, power and sail.
I am a retired Naval Officer and instructor in Navigator.
This boat would be for my 21 year old, just graduated from college, grandson. He too is a sailor, Red Cross certified lifeguard and teacher.
We are real and your boat would go to a great Cape Cod home and an eager sailor and competent mechanic. For several years - motorcycle and car,
I and my grandson are excited about completing the work you have begun.
I look forward to talking with you. 904-347-6761 Max and cptnstef@...
Stefan Galazzi
Stefan Galazzi
cell phone: 904-347-6761
cptnstef@...
PO Box 429, 02662-0429
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM <fkubin@...> wrote:
Know someone looking for a boat?
Sag Harbor Long Island NY.
Text following the link was sent to me when I inquired about it.
Here is a rundown on the boat:
We've had her for 30 years but need to give her up now because of health issues.
The boat is exceptionally seaworthy. We've taken it from Sag Harbor to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Point Judith, etc.
I've had boats which didn't feel seaworthy but this Tartan 27 whether it's going through the turbulence of Plum Gut or when the wind picks up a lot, just holds steady.
And for water where there are plenty of shallow spots, its draft, although of only three feet, and hull design, leaves you feeling like you are in a boat with five or six foot draft.
Also, being the first cruising sailboat made by Tartan, the tolerances of fiberglass were not known so they overbuilt the hull and topside - with their fiberglass about three-quarters or so thick rather than the bleach-bottle-width, it would seem, of plenty of new boats today.
I installed an electric pump for the water system so the water system is powered, and had a prior marina install a hot water tank, to which not only the sink but a shower is attached.
The main thing that needs to be done is interior painting. My wife sanded it down in the spring to ready it for painting. Serious interior painting is needed which would probably take three days.
The one thing absent from the boat is the small centerboard that deteriorated. But I didn't replace it (as I did an earlier centerboard that came with the boat that also deteriorated) because the boat sails perfectly without it. A new centerboard can be bought from the Tartan people for about $2,000. But the only times I ever dropped the centerboard was in high seas on cruising way out in the ocean to help with pointing.
There is one place where the deck-support under of one of the poles for a side railing felt weak and I reinforced the support with a piece of stainless steel, about 10 inches by five inches, cut by a machinist in Sag Harbor, including holes for bolts. I bolted down the steel on the deck under this stanchion, connecting it from the top to a piece of plywood of the same size below deck.
Otherwise, the desk is fairly OK (but there are some soft spots) -- and was repainted with Imron paint sprayed on by a local boat-painter about four years ago. He also did the hull about six or seven years ago. (He prefers working with Imron rather than Awlgrip.)
The mainsail is in good shape and we have one or two additional mainsails of the same vintage that we've stored.
The sail on the roller furling was designed specifically for the boat and made by North Sail and is in perfect shape. A North Sail rep came out and did the measurements. It is an absolute pleasure because my wife used to have to go up on the bow to change jibs when wind conditions changed substantially. The size of the jib can be easily changed from the cockpit by pulling a line.
This is a sacrifice proposition. It cost $5,400 to install the new Yanmar engine -- done by a Yanmar mechanic at the Sag Harbor Yacht Yard which does Yanmar work -- and then there was the cost of the engine itself, more than $6,000. As noted, the engine works perfectly.
But after just one sail of about three hours using the new engine, my wife and I -- with both of us reaching 80 years old in a few months and, as noted, with medical issues, she having problems with a knee -- decided it was time to sell.
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Stefan, I was happy to read of your proposal for the Sag Harbor boat, and sorry you and your grandson missed out. ?I may have a solution for you, albeit one requiring a whole lot of work. ? I actually have two Tartan 27s. ? Back around 2005 we bought and sailed one Tartan 27 for a season and had a blast, but decided to do some major overhaul things, and life got in the way, and several years went by. ? Then I fell into a screaming deal for another T27 which was farther along as a project, and turned my energies to that. ? ?Ten long years later we launched Hull No. 90, and life is good. ? But the original boat is still sitting in my driveway, and there is no reasonable chance that either my son or I will be reverting to that project. ?It¡¯s not for the faint of heart.
There¡¯s no mincing words: ?she¡¯s a project. ? A big honkin¡¯ project. ?Bare hull, mostly stripped out below, no engine in her, but I do have an electric motor set-up as well as a lot of A4 parts; soft spots in deck. ? But I¡¯ve still got most all bits and pieces, all kinds of stuff, including mast and boom, at least some sails, God-only-knows what else the garage may yield (and I wouldn¡¯t mind recovering the garage space.) ? ?The trailer she sits on shouldn¡¯t be trusted at all, but it¡¯s available for the taking, which might or might not be worth the effort. ? And you can¡¯t beat the price for the whole shootin¡¯ match: ?FREE.?
You¡¯re on the Cape, and my boat is on the hard in Waterford, VA. ? An old and now-gone boatbuilder on the Cape, Cap¡¯t. Pete Culler, used to say ¡°People don¡¯t build boats. ?Boats build people.¡± ? ?My own 21-year old son will vouch for that: ?he grew up learning all the skills that went into Hull No. 90, and the week doesn¡¯t go by that he doesn¡¯t thank me again for all the skills he¡¯s learned through the boat project(s). ? ?It sounds like your grandson might be bold enough for such a challenge. ? Anyway, thought I¡¯d put it out there. ??
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Galazzi <cptnstef@...>
To: Scott Rosasco <scottrosasco@...>
Cc: [email protected]; Max Michel <maxfuzion@...>
Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Boat for free....
Thanks for the update.? ? 'Tis the way it goes.? I hope the new owner finds her in the condition as described.
It is? sad, when we old sailors have to haul down the main and find another activity.? if possible, the ocean blue or we can stand knee deep and feel the warm ocean water between our toes.
? ? ?Fair seas and not too much wind over the stern.... when you start to reef.
? ? ? ? ? Stef
?Just as an FYI, I got an email today from the owner that the boat is gone. Sailed away.
On Oct 16, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Stefan Galazzi <cptnstef@...> wrote:
?
I am definitely?interested in your vessel.? I've owned a T27 and sailed her East Coast for years.? ?In addition I sailed on her as "co-pilot" with my 18 year old son.
His Solo trip...? Cape Cod to Miami on to Nassau for the winter.? I flew down in the spring and we sailed back to Wilmington and he took her to the Chesapeake.
? ?No problems.? I hold a CG license: 100 tons, coastal, power and sail.
I am a retired Naval Officer and instructor in Navigator.??
This boat would be for my 21 year old, just graduated from college, grandson.? He too is a sailor, Red Cross certified lifeguard and teacher.
? ?We are real and your boat would go to a great Cape Cod home and an eager sailor and competent mechanic.? For several?years - motorcycle?and car,? ?
?I and my grandson are excited about completing the work you?have begun.
I look forward to talking with you.? 904-347-6761? Max and cptnstef@...
Stefan Galazzi
Stefan Galazzi
cell phone:? 904-347-6761
cptnstef@...
PO Box 429, 02662-0429
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM < fkubin@...> wrote:
Know someone looking for a boat?
Sag Harbor Long Island NY.
Text following the link was sent to me when I inquired about it.
Here is a rundown on the boat:?
We've had her for 30 years but need to give her up now because of health issues.
The boat is exceptionally seaworthy. We've taken it from Sag Harbor to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Point Judith, etc.?
I've had boats which didn't feel seaworthy but this Tartan 27 whether it's going through the turbulence of Plum Gut or when the wind picks up a lot, just holds steady.
And for water where there are plenty of shallow spots, its draft, although of only three feet, and hull design, leaves you feeling like you are in a boat with five or six foot draft.
Also, being the first cruising sailboat made by Tartan, the tolerances of fiberglass were not known so they overbuilt the hull and topside - with their fiberglass about three-quarters or so thick rather than the bleach-bottle-width, it would seem, of plenty of new boats today.
I installed an electric pump for the water system so the water system is powered, and had a prior marina install a hot water tank, to which not only the sink but a shower is attached.??
The main thing that needs to be done is interior painting.? My wife sanded it down in the spring to ready it for painting.? Serious interior painting is needed which would probably take three days.
The one thing absent from the boat is the small centerboard that deteriorated. But I didn't replace it (as I did an earlier centerboard that came with the boat that also deteriorated) because the boat sails perfectly without it. A new centerboard can be bought from the Tartan people for about $2,000. But the only times I ever dropped the centerboard was in high seas on cruising way out in the ocean to help with pointing.
There is one place where the deck-support under of one of the poles for a side railing felt weak and I reinforced the support with a piece of stainless steel, about 10 inches by five inches, cut by a machinist in Sag Harbor, including holes for bolts. I bolted down the steel on the deck under this stanchion, connecting it from the top to a piece of plywood of the same size below deck.?
Otherwise, the desk is fairly OK (but there are some soft spots) -- and was repainted with Imron paint sprayed on by a local boat-painter about four years ago. He also did the hull about six or seven years ago. (He prefers working with Imron rather than Awlgrip.)
The mainsail is in good shape and we have one or two additional mainsails of the same vintage that we've stored.?
The sail on the roller furling was designed specifically for the boat and made by North Sail and is in perfect shape. A North Sail rep came out and did the measurements. It is an absolute pleasure because my wife used to have to go up on the bow to change jibs when wind conditions changed substantially. The size of the jib can be easily changed from the cockpit by pulling a line.
This is a sacrifice proposition. It cost $5,400 to install the new Yanmar engine -- done by a Yanmar mechanic at the Sag Harbor Yacht Yard which does Yanmar work -- and then there was the cost of the engine itself, more than $6,000. As noted, the engine works perfectly.
But after just one sail of about three hours using the new engine, my wife and I -- with both of us reaching 80 years old in a few months and, as noted, with medical issues, she having problems with a knee -- decided it was time to sell.?
?
|
Thanks for the update.? ? 'Tis the way it goes.? I hope the new owner finds her in the condition as described.
It is? sad, when we old sailors have to haul down the main and find another activity.? if possible, the ocean blue or we can stand knee deep and feel the warm ocean water between our toes. ? ? ?Fair seas and not too much wind over the stern.... when you start to reef. ? ? ? ? ? Stef
?Just as an FYI, I got an email today from the owner that the boat is gone. Sailed away. On Oct 16, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Stefan Galazzi <cptnstef@...> wrote:
? I am definitely?interested in your vessel.? I've owned a T27 and sailed her East Coast for years.? ?In addition I sailed on her as "co-pilot" with my 18 year old son. His Solo trip...? Cape Cod to Miami on to Nassau for the winter.? I flew down in the spring and we sailed back to Wilmington and he took her to the Chesapeake. ? ?No problems.? I hold a CG license: 100 tons, coastal, power and sail. I am a retired Naval Officer and instructor in Navigator.?? This boat would be for my 21 year old, just graduated from college, grandson.? He too is a sailor, Red Cross certified lifeguard and teacher. ? ?We are real and your boat would go to a great Cape Cod home and an eager sailor and competent mechanic.? For several?years - motorcycle?and car,? ? ?I and my grandson are excited about completing the work you?have begun.
I look forward to talking with you.? 904-347-6761? Max and cptnstef@...
Stefan Galazzi
Stefan Galazzi
cell phone:? 904-347-6761
cptnstef@... PO Box 429, 02662-0429
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM < fkubin@...> wrote: Know someone looking for a boat?
Sag Harbor Long Island NY.
Text following the link was sent to me when I inquired about it.
Here is a rundown on the boat:?
We've had her for 30 years but need to give her up now because of health issues.
The boat is exceptionally seaworthy. We've taken it from Sag Harbor to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Point Judith, etc.?
I've had boats which didn't feel seaworthy but this Tartan 27 whether it's going through the turbulence of Plum Gut or when the wind picks up a lot, just holds steady.
And for water where there are plenty of shallow spots, its draft, although of only three feet, and hull design, leaves you feeling like you are in a boat with five or six foot draft.
Also, being the first cruising sailboat made by Tartan, the tolerances of fiberglass were not known so they overbuilt the hull and topside - with their fiberglass about three-quarters or so thick rather than the bleach-bottle-width, it would seem, of plenty of new boats today.
I installed an electric pump for the water system so the water system is powered, and had a prior marina install a hot water tank, to which not only the sink but a shower is attached.??
The main thing that needs to be done is interior painting.? My wife sanded it down in the spring to ready it for painting.? Serious interior painting is needed which would probably take three days.
The one thing absent from the boat is the small centerboard that deteriorated. But I didn't replace it (as I did an earlier centerboard that came with the boat that also deteriorated) because the boat sails perfectly without it. A new centerboard can be bought from the Tartan people for about $2,000. But the only times I ever dropped the centerboard was in high seas on cruising way out in the ocean to help with pointing.
There is one place where the deck-support under of one of the poles for a side railing felt weak and I reinforced the support with a piece of stainless steel, about 10 inches by five inches, cut by a machinist in Sag Harbor, including holes for bolts. I bolted down the steel on the deck under this stanchion, connecting it from the top to a piece of plywood of the same size below deck.?
Otherwise, the desk is fairly OK (but there are some soft spots) -- and was repainted with Imron paint sprayed on by a local boat-painter about four years ago. He also did the hull about six or seven years ago. (He prefers working with Imron rather than Awlgrip.)
The mainsail is in good shape and we have one or two additional mainsails of the same vintage that we've stored.?
The sail on the roller furling was designed specifically for the boat and made by North Sail and is in perfect shape. A North Sail rep came out and did the measurements. It is an absolute pleasure because my wife used to have to go up on the bow to change jibs when wind conditions changed substantially. The size of the jib can be easily changed from the cockpit by pulling a line.
This is a sacrifice proposition. It cost $5,400 to install the new Yanmar engine -- done by a Yanmar mechanic at the Sag Harbor Yacht Yard which does Yanmar work -- and then there was the cost of the engine itself, more than $6,000. As noted, the engine works perfectly.
But after just one sail of about three hours using the new engine, my wife and I -- with both of us reaching 80 years old in a few months and, as noted, with medical issues, she having problems with a knee -- decided it was time to sell.?
?
|
? Just as an FYI, I got an email today from the owner that the boat is gone. Sailed away.
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On Oct 16, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Stefan Galazzi <cptnstef@...> wrote:
? I am definitely?interested in your vessel.? I've owned a T27 and sailed her East Coast for years.? ?In addition I sailed on her as "co-pilot" with my 18 year old son. His Solo trip...? Cape Cod to Miami on to Nassau for the winter.? I flew down in the spring and we sailed back to Wilmington and he took her to the Chesapeake. ? ?No problems.? I hold a CG license: 100 tons, coastal, power and sail. I am a retired Naval Officer and instructor in Navigator.?? This boat would be for my 21 year old, just graduated from college, grandson.? He too is a sailor, Red Cross certified lifeguard and teacher. ? ?We are real and your boat would go to a great Cape Cod home and an eager sailor and competent mechanic.? For several?years - motorcycle?and car,? ? ?I and my grandson are excited about completing the work you?have begun.
I look forward to talking with you.? 904-347-6761? Max and cptnstef@...
Stefan Galazzi
Stefan Galazzi
cell phone:? 904-347-6761
cptnstef@... PO Box 429, 02662-0429
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM < fkubin@...> wrote: Know someone looking for a boat?
Sag Harbor Long Island NY.
Text following the link was sent to me when I inquired about it.
Here is a rundown on the boat:?
We've had her for 30 years but need to give her up now because of health issues.
The boat is exceptionally seaworthy. We've taken it from Sag Harbor to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Point Judith, etc.?
I've had boats which didn't feel seaworthy but this Tartan 27 whether it's going through the turbulence of Plum Gut or when the wind picks up a lot, just holds steady.
And for water where there are plenty of shallow spots, its draft, although of only three feet, and hull design, leaves you feeling like you are in a boat with five or six foot draft.
Also, being the first cruising sailboat made by Tartan, the tolerances of fiberglass were not known so they overbuilt the hull and topside - with their fiberglass about three-quarters or so thick rather than the bleach-bottle-width, it would seem, of plenty of new boats today.
I installed an electric pump for the water system so the water system is powered, and had a prior marina install a hot water tank, to which not only the sink but a shower is attached.??
The main thing that needs to be done is interior painting.? My wife sanded it down in the spring to ready it for painting.? Serious interior painting is needed which would probably take three days.
The one thing absent from the boat is the small centerboard that deteriorated. But I didn't replace it (as I did an earlier centerboard that came with the boat that also deteriorated) because the boat sails perfectly without it. A new centerboard can be bought from the Tartan people for about $2,000. But the only times I ever dropped the centerboard was in high seas on cruising way out in the ocean to help with pointing.
There is one place where the deck-support under of one of the poles for a side railing felt weak and I reinforced the support with a piece of stainless steel, about 10 inches by five inches, cut by a machinist in Sag Harbor, including holes for bolts. I bolted down the steel on the deck under this stanchion, connecting it from the top to a piece of plywood of the same size below deck.?
Otherwise, the desk is fairly OK (but there are some soft spots) -- and was repainted with Imron paint sprayed on by a local boat-painter about four years ago. He also did the hull about six or seven years ago. (He prefers working with Imron rather than Awlgrip.)
The mainsail is in good shape and we have one or two additional mainsails of the same vintage that we've stored.?
The sail on the roller furling was designed specifically for the boat and made by North Sail and is in perfect shape. A North Sail rep came out and did the measurements. It is an absolute pleasure because my wife used to have to go up on the bow to change jibs when wind conditions changed substantially. The size of the jib can be easily changed from the cockpit by pulling a line.
This is a sacrifice proposition. It cost $5,400 to install the new Yanmar engine -- done by a Yanmar mechanic at the Sag Harbor Yacht Yard which does Yanmar work -- and then there was the cost of the engine itself, more than $6,000. As noted, the engine works perfectly.
But after just one sail of about three hours using the new engine, my wife and I -- with both of us reaching 80 years old in a few months and, as noted, with medical issues, she having problems with a knee -- decided it was time to sell.?
?
|
I am definitely?interested in your vessel.? I've owned a T27 and sailed her East Coast for years.? ?In addition I sailed on her as "co-pilot" with my 18 year old son. His Solo trip...? Cape Cod to Miami on to Nassau for the winter.? I flew down in the spring and we sailed back to Wilmington and he took her to the Chesapeake. ? ?No problems.? I hold a CG license: 100 tons, coastal, power and sail. I am a retired Naval Officer and instructor in Navigator.?? This boat would be for my 21 year old, just graduated from college, grandson.? He too is a sailor, Red Cross certified lifeguard and teacher. ? ?We are real and your boat would go to a great Cape Cod home and an eager sailor and competent mechanic.? For several?years - motorcycle?and car,? ? ?I and my grandson are excited about completing the work you?have begun.
I look forward to talking with you.? 904-347-6761? Max and cptnstef@...
Stefan Galazzi
Stefan Galazzi
cell phone:? 904-347-6761
cptnstef@... PO Box 429, 02662-0429
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM < fkubin@...> wrote: Know someone looking for a boat?
Sag Harbor Long Island NY.
Text following the link was sent to me when I inquired about it.
Here is a rundown on the boat:?
We've had her for 30 years but need to give her up now because of health issues.
The boat is exceptionally seaworthy. We've taken it from Sag Harbor to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Point Judith, etc.?
I've had boats which didn't feel seaworthy but this Tartan 27 whether it's going through the turbulence of Plum Gut or when the wind picks up a lot, just holds steady.
And for water where there are plenty of shallow spots, its draft, although of only three feet, and hull design, leaves you feeling like you are in a boat with five or six foot draft.
Also, being the first cruising sailboat made by Tartan, the tolerances of fiberglass were not known so they overbuilt the hull and topside - with their fiberglass about three-quarters or so thick rather than the bleach-bottle-width, it would seem, of plenty of new boats today.
I installed an electric pump for the water system so the water system is powered, and had a prior marina install a hot water tank, to which not only the sink but a shower is attached.??
The main thing that needs to be done is interior painting.? My wife sanded it down in the spring to ready it for painting.? Serious interior painting is needed which would probably take three days.
The one thing absent from the boat is the small centerboard that deteriorated. But I didn't replace it (as I did an earlier centerboard that came with the boat that also deteriorated) because the boat sails perfectly without it. A new centerboard can be bought from the Tartan people for about $2,000. But the only times I ever dropped the centerboard was in high seas on cruising way out in the ocean to help with pointing.
There is one place where the deck-support under of one of the poles for a side railing felt weak and I reinforced the support with a piece of stainless steel, about 10 inches by five inches, cut by a machinist in Sag Harbor, including holes for bolts. I bolted down the steel on the deck under this stanchion, connecting it from the top to a piece of plywood of the same size below deck.?
Otherwise, the desk is fairly OK (but there are some soft spots) -- and was repainted with Imron paint sprayed on by a local boat-painter about four years ago. He also did the hull about six or seven years ago. (He prefers working with Imron rather than Awlgrip.)
The mainsail is in good shape and we have one or two additional mainsails of the same vintage that we've stored.?
The sail on the roller furling was designed specifically for the boat and made by North Sail and is in perfect shape. A North Sail rep came out and did the measurements. It is an absolute pleasure because my wife used to have to go up on the bow to change jibs when wind conditions changed substantially. The size of the jib can be easily changed from the cockpit by pulling a line.
This is a sacrifice proposition. It cost $5,400 to install the new Yanmar engine -- done by a Yanmar mechanic at the Sag Harbor Yacht Yard which does Yanmar work -- and then there was the cost of the engine itself, more than $6,000. As noted, the engine works perfectly.
But after just one sail of about three hours using the new engine, my wife and I -- with both of us reaching 80 years old in a few months and, as noted, with medical issues, she having problems with a knee -- decided it was time to sell.?
?
|
Know someone looking for a boat?
Sag Harbor Long Island NY.
Text following the link was sent to me when I inquired about it.
Here is a rundown on the boat:?
We've had her for 30 years but need to give her up now because of health issues.
The boat is exceptionally seaworthy. We've taken it from Sag Harbor to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Point Judith, etc.?
I've had boats which didn't feel seaworthy but this Tartan 27 whether it's going through the turbulence of Plum Gut or when the wind picks up a lot, just holds steady.
And for water where there are plenty of shallow spots, its draft, although of only three feet, and hull design, leaves you feeling like you are in a boat with five or six foot draft.
Also, being the first cruising sailboat made by Tartan, the tolerances of fiberglass were not known so they overbuilt the hull and topside - with their fiberglass about three-quarters or so thick rather than the bleach-bottle-width, it would seem, of plenty of new boats today.
I installed an electric pump for the water system so the water system is powered, and had a prior marina install a hot water tank, to which not only the sink but a shower is attached.??
The main thing that needs to be done is interior painting.? My wife sanded it down in the spring to ready it for painting.? Serious interior painting is needed which would probably take three days.
The one thing absent from the boat is the small centerboard that deteriorated. But I didn't replace it (as I did an earlier centerboard that came with the boat that also deteriorated) because the boat sails perfectly without it. A new centerboard can be bought from the Tartan people for about $2,000. But the only times I ever dropped the centerboard was in high seas on cruising way out in the ocean to help with pointing.
There is one place where the deck-support under of one of the poles for a side railing felt weak and I reinforced the support with a piece of stainless steel, about 10 inches by five inches, cut by a machinist in Sag Harbor, including holes for bolts. I bolted down the steel on the deck under this stanchion, connecting it from the top to a piece of plywood of the same size below deck.?
Otherwise, the desk is fairly OK (but there are some soft spots) -- and was repainted with Imron paint sprayed on by a local boat-painter about four years ago. He also did the hull about six or seven years ago. (He prefers working with Imron rather than Awlgrip.)
The mainsail is in good shape and we have one or two additional mainsails of the same vintage that we've stored.?
The sail on the roller furling was designed specifically for the boat and made by North Sail and is in perfect shape. A North Sail rep came out and did the measurements. It is an absolute pleasure because my wife used to have to go up on the bow to change jibs when wind conditions changed substantially. The size of the jib can be easily changed from the cockpit by pulling a line.
This is a sacrifice proposition. It cost $5,400 to install the new Yanmar engine -- done by a Yanmar mechanic at the Sag Harbor Yacht Yard which does Yanmar work -- and then there was the cost of the engine itself, more than $6,000. As noted, the engine works perfectly.
But after just one sail of about three hours using the new engine, my wife and I -- with both of us reaching 80 years old in a few months and, as noted, with medical issues, she having problems with a knee -- decided it was time to sell.?
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Has anyone removed the rudder?? Any tricks to it?? I'm not sure how it comes out
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Thanks for the information.? I'm guessing that I have to pull the rudder and check everything closely.? Not something to mess with.
Oh, and I typed the hull number wrong, I'm 660.? Thanks again
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I had heard a similar creak a few years ago. Just before the start of a race, I noticed my tiller had split at the rudder-post connection. It was starting to separate length-wise (like an alligator mouth). This is where the noise was coming from. We lashed the tiller to the tiller fitting, and it held the remainder of the season.?
I've also heard (infrequently) some creaking coming from where the rudder meets the deck on our T27-2. This may be wear of the tiller fitting against the sleeve, or wear in the rudder post. My understanding is there is not a bearing in the rudder post/tube. The rudder post is free-floating. In some boats, this becomes a point of wear and could potentially cause some noise. I believe there's a few posts on these boards of folks that have added a bearing in their rudder tube to reduce slop and prevent any further wear.?
P.S. Interestingly, our boat is also 663. I just double-checked both the T27 plate and the hull number. Is it possible Tartan overlapped hull numbers somehow? Either way, I suspect our boats are pretty similar.?
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This past weekend we were out sailing in about 20 knots and a great deal of weather helm.? While holding the tiller over with a fair amount of force I heard some "creaking" or clicking when putting force on the tiller and also when letting off.? I didn't feel any looseness however I don't recall this ever happening before.? Any ideas of what might be causing this, and a possible fix?? Also is this a big concern?? It doesn't happen in lighter winds.? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.? ?#663
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OK. My hangup is going to be the transport if I can't get this guy to do it. I know I can't throw it on the top of my car.
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From: Rick Gengarelly <rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
Also, this is only the mast because the stainless rigging stays are in my basement and are not costing me anything to store. I would include the spreaders for you. Want to make sure we're on the same page.?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 3:46 PM Rick Gengarelly via <rickg1952= [email protected]> wrote:
The scrap value is about $100. That's all I'd be looking for. Is that OK?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 3:37 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
I would love to have it. I'm going to see if I can get a ride for it from a boat hauler going that way.
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From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
The mast is at my club; Housatonic Boat Club in Stratford Conn.. Thanks for the?interest. Rick (203)287-0283 rickg1952@...
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:03 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
Rick,
Where are you ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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Re: T27 anchor light and quarter. berth
I am aware of that. However an anchor light at the top of the mast is 360 degrees. I will assume, based on replies, that it was not original equipment.
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? Any steaming light (masthead light in Colregs) is 225 Degrees On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:52 AM Caleb Davison via <calebjess= [email protected]> wrote:
[email protected] | Photo
I hope that link works.? It is a photo from the website of the interior of a late 1960's interior.? The boat/folder name is "491".
Original steaming light was only 180 degrees facing forward.
Caleb D
#328
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From: Scott Rosasco < scottrosasco@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:17 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T27 anchor light and quarter. berth
We own a 1967 model. Does anyone have an interior photo, or can take one, that shows the starboard, aft, quarter berth shelf attachment point, for the removable backrest pad, which also can function as a weatherboard/leeboard? Maybe a closeup? Our woodwork was taken apart before we bought the boat and we are trying to put it back together now.
Also, did the T27 come standard, with a 360 degree all around anchor light, at the top of the mast?? We don¡¯t think we have one.
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Also, this is only the mast because the stainless rigging stays are in my basement and are not costing me anything to store. I would include the spreaders for you. Want to make sure we're on the same page.?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 3:46 PM Rick Gengarelly via <rickg1952= [email protected]> wrote: The scrap value is about $100. That's all I'd be looking for. Is that OK?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 3:37 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
I would love to have it. I'm going to see if I can get a ride for it from a boat hauler going that way.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
The mast is at my club; Housatonic Boat Club in Stratford Conn.. Thanks for the?interest. Rick (203)287-0283 rickg1952@...
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:03 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
Rick,
Where are you ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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The scrap value is about $100. That's all I'd be looking for. Is that OK?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 3:37 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
I would love to have it. I'm going to see if I can get a ride for it from a boat hauler going that way.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
The mast is at my club; Housatonic Boat Club in Stratford Conn.. Thanks for the?interest. Rick (203)287-0283 rickg1952@...
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:03 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
Rick,
Where are you ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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Re: T27 anchor light and quarter. berth
Any steaming light (masthead light in Colregs) is 225 Degrees
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:52 AM Caleb Davison via <calebjess= [email protected]> wrote:
[email protected] | Photo
I hope that link works.? It is a photo from the website of the interior of a late 1960's interior.? The boat/folder name is "491".
Original steaming light was only 180 degrees facing forward.
Caleb D
#328
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosasco < scottrosasco@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:17 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T27 anchor light and quarter. berth
We own a 1967 model. Does anyone have an interior photo, or can take one, that shows the starboard, aft, quarter berth shelf attachment point, for the removable backrest pad, which also can function as a weatherboard/leeboard? Maybe a closeup? Our woodwork was taken apart before we bought the boat and we are trying to put it back together now.
Also, did the T27 come standard, with a 360 degree all around anchor light, at the top of the mast?? We don¡¯t think we have one.
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I would love to have it. I'm going to see if I can get a ride for it from a boat hauler going that way.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly <rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
The mast is at my club; Housatonic Boat Club in Stratford Conn.. Thanks for the?interest. Rick (203)287-0283 rickg1952@...
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:03 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
Rick,
Where are you ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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The mast is at my club; Housatonic Boat Club in Stratford Conn.. Thanks for the?interest. Rick (203)287-0283 rickg1952@...
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:03 PM Monica < monicam@...> wrote:
Rick,
Where are you ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gengarelly <rickg1952@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T 27 mast
I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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Re: T27 anchor light and quarter. berth
[email protected] | Photo
I hope that link works.? It is a photo from the groups.io website of the interior of a late 1960's interior.? The boat/folder name is "491".
Original steaming light was only 180 degrees facing forward.
Caleb D
#328
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosasco <scottrosasco@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 1:17 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T27 anchor light and quarter. berth
We own a 1967 model. Does anyone have an interior photo, or can take one, that shows the starboard, aft, quarter berth shelf attachment point, for the removable backrest pad, which also can function as a weatherboard/leeboard? Maybe a closeup? Our woodwork was taken apart before we bought the boat and we are trying to put it back together now.
Also, did the T27 come standard, with a 360 degree all around anchor light, at the top of the mast?? We don¡¯t think we have one.
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I'm getting ready to cut up my perfectly good Tartan 27 mast for scrap $$ to avoid storage fees. If anyone is in need, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Rick?
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