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Patrick,

Like I mentioned you can make the wrenches out of flat stock steel and a hack saw.? Bacon's might have used the size you need.? !/8" flat steel is thick enough.

Michael

On 11/12/2020 5:38 PM patrick.mcgough@... wrote:

Caleb…what additionally did you need to do this while in the water?

Michael…I like the idea of working on this when she is high and dry…the creek here off of Middle River here on the Chesapeake blows out with just the right kind of winds.? I just bought this house in July so I am experiencing the winter new here on the water….Ice Eater ordered for the cold but the high and dry has definitely been an experience…

Article references shaft packing wrenches and on Amazon they run around about $200….now I know BOAT stands for Bring On Another Thousand, but do I really need special shaft packing wrenches?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Caleb Davison via
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Stuffing Box

I definitely recommend soaking the packing nut/locking nut in PB Blaster for up to a week before you attempt to break them free.? I would not recommend using heat in this area especially if you have an Atomic 4 and a gas tank right over this area.

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I just reviewed this article and he has expanded it since I looked at it.? It is quite comprehensive in all respects.? He mentions some of the home made tools that can make this job go easier and even the details of how you should cut the packing rings when adding new (there is a best way and a not-so-best way).

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It is a longer read than I remembered.

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Best of luck.

Caleb

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From: patrick.mcgough@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Stuffing Box

I will definitely read that article, just wondering what additionally I would need to keep water out of the boat if trying to do this in the water.

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I think if I remove the batteries on the starboard side I could possibly get to this from in the cockpit.? The two side panels that can be removed just don’t seem to be sized to be able to get any leverage.? Should these things be soaked in PB Blaster…guessing that heat near that rubber gland marked 1 is not a good thing.? What things other than the packing material and wrenches help with this project?? A breaker bar or something for leverage?

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Thank you all so far for the quick responses…

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Patrick

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Caleb Davison via
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Stuffing Box

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The best on-line tutorial on Stuffing Boxes is here:??

Study it well before you attempt any boat yoga trying to access this spot.

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Scott spotted and noted the rustic looking hose clamps that should be replaced (and yes, you need 2 for all under waterline applications).??

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I will add that it is probably time to replace the packing (that goes into the stuffing box) as this is a maintenance/wear item that should be replaced something like every 10 years, or sooner.? I believe the marinehowto page makes a reccommendation on which packing to use.? Interestingly they do not call it "stuffing" that goes into a "stuffing box".? It is more like you just put "stuff" in there that will wear down over time while keeping your boat mostly dry.??

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I have done this a couple of times and it is not so difficult that it can't be done with the boat in the water.? You just need to plan ahead so the job goes smoothly and quickly.? If you replace the packing material it may take some minor adjustments in the beginning to get the # of drips to where you want it.? You should be able to get it mostly dry with the shaft not spinning and only a few drips per minute with the shaft rotating.

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Best of luck with this.

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Caleb D.

T27 #328

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From: aksjghkajshd <scott@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Stuffing Box

In the picture, 4 doesn't look like it's immediately next to a nut
but it looks like 2 in the most astern nut and 3 the slightly forward
one.

2 and 3 are currently screwed against each other.? 3 is a "locknut".
Friction against 2 and against the threads keep it and 2 from moving.

So you'd back 3 off of 2 a bit, with a wrench on each, then tighten
2 a bit, then with two wrenches again, tighten 3 on to 2 while keeping
2 from moving.

It may be time to replace the stuffing in the stuffing box.

And that rusted stainless on the hose clamps is no good.? Can you replace
those, one at a time?

Hmm, someone else was just telling me about stuffing boxes a few
months back.

Water looks incredible.

And yup, not a fun position.? I spent a lot of time cleaning up bilge
paint and rough fiberglass under the stern tube before laying up more
fiberglass, apparently due to cracking from the wrong size cutlass
bearings being hammered in creating a spiderweb of cracks.

Good luck!

-scott

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>? ? How appropriate to be talking about stuffing 2 weeks before
>? ? Thanksgiving...oh wait a second....not the same type of stuffing!!!!!
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>? ? I am looking for a little help here with my Tartan 27 and the stuffing
>? ? box and the packing and adjustments.? I have my Tartan 27 right out
>? ? back on my pier so it is right here to monitor and keep an eye on, and
>? ? so I went out to start her up and run her for a bit and check on the
>? ? drip that is supposed to be 1-2 drops per minute is more like a steady
>? ? stream.
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>? ? It is a tight fit for my 250# girth sliding in along the engine and so
>? ? I want to make sure I get it right when I try and stop or slow this
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>? ? Here is a picture.? The drop is coming from right around #4.? Is that
>? ? where it is supposed to drip?? What do I want to adjust and which way
>? ? do I want to adjust them in?? I can go take more pictures and video,
>? ? but I thought labeling this picture might at least start a discussion.
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>? ? Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.? I am not in risk of
>? ? sinking as the water isn't that deep anyway...in the other picture you
>? ? can see how she was high and dry just a little bit ago...
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