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Re: Centerboard pennant fairlead tube repair
It was Warren Stein who last did a fix for this that I am not remembering.
Good job Warren.
Caleb D. T27 #328
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From: Warren Stein via Groups.Io <wrsteinesq@...> To: T27Owners <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Centerboard pennant fairlead tube repair FWIW, the last thing you should do is give up your centerboard, especially over this issue.? There are several fixes worth doing.? ? Some T27 owners have changed over to Dyneema pennants.? These are believed to ¡®saw¡¯ less than the standard-issue stainless cable, which, when you think about it, is functionally the equivalent of a bandsaw blade when the centerboard drops.? I¡¯m doing that Dyneema fix, but haven¡¯t hit the water yet, so I can¡¯t give you real-world feedback on that.? In any event, even as strong as Dyneeema is, I still plan on using something fairly stout, 3/16 or better, not for strength but for chafe.?
I ended up getting a bronze hose barb fitting, one with threads large enough to screw into the existing fiberglass stub, with a smaller hose barb thru which the Dyneema runs.? I certainly DID beef up the stub with fiberglass cloth, all around it and bonded to a large area on the trunk.? Since the ID of the hose barb was I think maybe 1/4¡± or maybe it was 5/16¡±, I taped it, filled it with epoxy impregnated with Teflon powder, and then drilled it out to 3/16¡±.? ? I took a dremel bit and essentially countersunk the bottom side of the epoxy, i.e. rounding its exit because as you raise/lower the board, the angle from the stub to the attachment point on the centerboard changes, which is probably what causes the chafe in the first place.? So the hope is, anyway, that what I¡¯ve accomplished is a) to reduce the size of the hole thru which water can enter to about 3/16¡±, which SHOULD be mostly blocked by the 3/16¡± pennant anyway; and b) use a slippery pennant; and c) contour the exit so it chafes less when the angle changes.? ¡°Your mileage may vary,¡± but that was my solution.? ? Warren Stein, Hulls No. 90 and 535.? > On Jan 13, 2020, at 9:35 PM, jeremy@... wrote: > > ? > Ahoy, > > I am trying to figure out a reasonable way to repair the tube that pennant for the centerboard goes through. > > Mine has been partially sawed through. I know this is a common problem, but I am not sure what viable repairs exist. I searched the group but the results were not super illuminating. > > To prevent the problem from getting worse, I can fashion a bushing from wood or plastic so that any future rubbing happens there. I generally haul my boat for the winter, so I can inspect that every year (and replace as needed). > > But, I am not sure how concerned I should be about the existing wear on the pipe. The wear is worst at the top and bottom. At the top you can see the backside of the threads of the nipple. There is much less wear in the middle of the pipe. > > I am somewhat concerned that when I put the hose clamps on I could accidentally crush the pipe. > > So, I wonder, is there a practical way to 'repair' the pipe. > > Here are some thoughts: > > 1. Remove the old tube and epoxy a new one in place. > > I have several concerns about this approach. It is not clear to me that epoxy sticks super well to bronze. I only have access to one side of the repair. I could cause additional damage trying to get the old tube out. There would also only be limited surface area for the epoxy to mechanically bond to the existing polyester in the truck. > > In summary, it seems like a tricky repair and it is not clear how strong it will be. > > 2. Epoxy a 1.5" OD fiberglass tube around the existing tube > > I would attach the new tube with epoxy and fiberglass to the trunk so that it does not rely on the remaining integrity of the existing tube. I'd also fill the gap between the tubes with thickened epoxy. That is in part structural, but also keeps the water from pooling between the two pipes. Maybe not important, but can't hurt? It's sort of a belt and suspenders fix. > > This is probably the strongest repair and is also fairly non-invasive. I am only adding stuff, not removing or cutting anything. I can't imagine how this repair could result in things being worse than when I started. > > The 'problem' with this approach is that I now need a larger diameter hose to sleeve the pennant (one with a 1.5" ID). That is only a minor issue -- except that it will be too fat to fit through the holes in the wooden covers on top of the companionway stairs. > > I considered trying to use a hose-mender (aka, hose reducer) to reduce the 1.5" ID hose to a 1" ID hose so that I would not have to cut a large hole in the boards, but I could not find one with those dimensions for sale. > > So, this repair should work -- I just have to suck it up and cut the wood. > > 3. 4200 a smaller bronze tube inside the existing tube > > This solution is perhaps the weakest. It would provide some extra support so that the hose clamps would not crush the outer pipe. But, the 4200 is flexible -- so it will still give some potential flex. > > Also, finding a tube that can fit inside the existing tube might substantially reduce the ID making it harder to fit a wood/plastic bushing. > > The advantage of this solution is that I can use the same size hose. (One with a 1" ID). > > This repair is also the least invasive. Because the tube inside is installed with 4200, it could be removed or replaced. So, I can always opt to use a different method later. > > 4. Remove the centerboard and glass over the trunk from the outside. > > This most effectively solves the pennant tube issue -- but I am not ready to get rid of my centerboard. > > 5. <your idea here> > > What do people generally do? Anyone have regrets or success? > > - jeremy > > |
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