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Paul mentioned having a set of tracks, various lengths, to fill in gaps.? Someone else mentioned something about tools.? lt seems like putting together a list of tools that people take to shows would be a good idea which can then be transformed into a Newsletter article.? So exactly what length of track pieces would you recommend having available in your T-TRAK toolbox?? How about other items to carry? We have a track cleaning wand, levels, and brochures among other items. Please do a reply with what you take to a show in your T-TRAK toolbox.
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开云体育Here's a list from my web site of tools and 'stuff' that you might need at a show.? It is written from the point of view of a layout organizer.
What To Take . On 2/24/24 6:27 PM, Bruce Alcock wrote:
Paul mentioned having a set of tracks, various lengths, to fill in gaps.? Someone else mentioned something about tools.? lt seems like putting together a list of tools that people take to shows would be a good idea which can then be transformed into a Newsletter article.? So exactly what length of track pieces would you recommend having available in your T-TRAK toolbox?? How about other items to carry? We have a track cleaning wand, levels, and brochures among other items. Please do a reply with what you take to a show in your T-TRAK toolbox. |
开云体育I suspect the 23mm custom cut piece is used to match the Jackson Junction with a double module length on the opposite side of a loop. Since I try to avoid cutting track for ease of construction I created my “Junction Length Straights” 597 mm long for use opposite junctions in a loop. In most cases I use junctions in pairs leaving a 46 mm short fall that I make up with the 45.5 mm track piece as a small module to fill the scenic gap. ? With 62 and 64 mm pieces available I’m not going to speculate what those others are (I suspect one of those lengths) but 62 or 64 mm pieces can be used to combine standard corners and junctions with “17 inch” corners and junctions. ? Those are the most common uses for gap fillers. ? Otherwise some of the commercially available large “Branchline” junctions are not perfect matches for the large “21 inch” corners and require gap fillers for correction. ? ??????????????????????????????? T ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Arbo
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2024 11:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [T-TrakGlobal] Tools ? Todd Tait, of GS&F T-TRAK (South Central Georgia) has gone a step further with misc. Unitrack pieces.? He’s built a number of small sections he refers to as ‘slivers’ and ‘slices’ to help fill in gaps caused by irregular width modules during combined setups/layouts. They come in very handy! |
Neat. I like that idea and will copy it! Geoff On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 11:46:48 AM EST, Bruce Arbo <coastalalabamattrak@...> wrote: Todd Tait, of GS&F T-TRAK (South Central Georgia) has gone a step further with misc. Unitrack pieces.? He’s built a number of small sections he refers to as ‘slivers’ and ‘slices’ to help fill in gaps caused by irregular width modules during combined setups/layouts. They come in very handy! |
Paul's list is pretty complete. I would add the following:
clip leads ("I thought you had the T-Trak buss wires" - quote from our last get-together) backup DCC system (NCE for us) DC power pack and engine, because that's the ultimate fall-back for DCC failures (although we always run one DC loop anyway) parts to build a "module" to cross at least a 1X gap, should modules not arrive or fail or it's just needed (I carry a Kato bridge, appropriate track to make 310 mm, and some 1 X 3s to lift the track) spare modules, just in case Geoff |
开云体育At more than one show, in need of parts, I was able to scamper to a nearby vendor who was just about open for business and buy what I needed! --Paul E Musselman On 2/25/24 9:42 AM, Brian King wrote:
Nice list, Paul! And make sure the show is next to Walmart so you can get any items you're missing! Brian |
开云体育Okay, I used Pauls Format and added or subtracted as I saw the need, I had a few additions and some subtractions. Took a minute. Andy ? PERSONAL COMFORT
to your Layout.? Otherwise, you have to stand up to talk to people. ? ??POWER
·??????? 12 gauge Extension cords ·??????? 14 gauge Extension cords ·??????? Two each, 5-way Power Distribution with Circuit breaker ·??????? Power strips and extension cords MUST be commercial, UL-certified! ·??????? gaffer's tape to hold them down (gaffer's tape removes cleaner than duct tape) ???COMPUTER Stuff
??? STATIONERY AND OFFICE SUPPLIES
????? ?Batteries
? ??ADHESIVES, GLUE, and TAPE
WIRES AND CABLES ??? NCE System:
ELECTRONIC TESTING EQUIPMENT: ·????????? DCC Meter and probes ·????????? Multimeter and Probes ·????????? T-TRAK Module Tester ??? DCC SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT
????DCC WIRE SUPPLIES
????? CLEANING SUPPLIES
?? ?WHEEL CLEANING STATION
??? DCC PROGRAMMING STATION ??????? -- 'test track' connected to DCC program track output on AIO station ?? ?MODULE SUPPLIES
?? ?TRACK SUPPLIES
??? ?TOOLS
??? TABLE TOOLS & SUPPLIES
PERSONAL SAFETY ITEMS
? Andy J. Zimmerman ATCS AW USN Ret. BBMRA President NRail Vice President and Social Media Manager NMRA SSR President Ph- (C ) 850-524-4399 ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of PaulMmn
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2024 3:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [T-TrakGlobal] Tools ? Here's a list from my web site of tools and 'stuff' that you might need at a show.? It is written from the point of view of a layout organizer. ? What To Take . On 2/24/24 6:27 PM, Bruce Alcock wrote:
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Two comments.
First, any table coverings should meet fire codes. Weed block does not; I would test a black plastic tablecloth before using it. Second, Paul's and Andy's lists include way more tools than I bring for a show. Different people want to do different things at shows. I want to run trains. If an engine has an issue, my preference is to fix it at home and run a different engine at the show. If a module doesn't work, spend a few minutes to try to fix it, but swap it out if it's holding things up. Show time is precious - I don't want to spend it troubleshooting! I agree that a first aid kit is a good idea. A stash of Band-Aids keeps blood off the modules, especially on an N-Trak layout where rail joiners sometimes penetrate skin. My two cents, for what it's worth. Geoff |
Geoff that is why I need a trailer...LOL Also I do not always have the benefit of strong teams that think to bring some items so I either bring it with me or I end up bringing it back with me when I buy what I need.
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Andy Andy J. Zimmerman ATCS AW USN Ret. BBMRA President NRMRC Member NRail Vice President and Social Media Manager NMRA SSR President NMRA Standards & Conformance Manager and IT Volunteer Member Ph- (C ) 850-524-4399 -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Geoff Dunn via groups.io Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 8:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [T-TrakGlobal] Tools Two comments. First, any table coverings should meet fire codes. Weed block does not; I would test a black plastic tablecloth before using it. Second, Paul's and Andy's lists include way more tools than I bring for a show. Different people want to do different things at shows. I want to run trains. If an engine has an issue, my preference is to fix it at home and run a different engine at the show. If a module doesn't work, spend a few minutes to try to fix it, but swap it out if it's holding things up. Show time is precious - I don't want to spend it troubleshooting! I agree that a first aid kit is a good idea. A stash of Band-Aids keeps blood off the modules, especially on an N-Trak layout where rail joiners sometimes penetrate skin. My two cents, for what it's worth. Geoff -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com |
The roll of plastic table covering is not "weed block". It is standard fare for large gatherings with banquet tables. Bed sheets work also.
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Extension cords, of any kind, may also not be allowed. Check with the venue. Modules only need to be excluded for physical reasons. Any wiring issues just mean that the module is not connected to the bus. (Unless somebody is being VERY creative!) Be prepared to redesign the layout should venue provided tables be 24 inches wide and not 30 (unless the plan is for double rows of tables)! That is not an issue when using large corners and junctions since the plan will be for double rows of tables anyway. Been there! NTRAK rial joiner attacks - been there too! T -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Geoff Dunn via groups.io Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 8:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [T-TrakGlobal] Tools Two comments. First, any table coverings should meet fire codes. Weed block does not; I would test a black plastic tablecloth before using it. Second, Paul's and Andy's lists include way more tools than I bring for a show. Different people want to do different things at shows. I want to run trains. If an engine has an issue, my preference is to fix it at home and run a different engine at the show. If a module doesn't work, spend a few minutes to try to fix it, but swap it out if it's holding things up. Show time is precious - I don't want to spend it troubleshooting! I agree that a first aid kit is a good idea. A stash of Band-Aids keeps blood off the modules, especially on an N-Trak layout where rail joiners sometimes penetrate skin. My two cents, for what it's worth. Geoff |
开云体育Building some double crossover singles creates easy ways to increase operations ability on T-TRAK layouts. Just add double crossover singles to allow passing and switching run-around moves. They may not be totally prototypical but can add operations fun to our small layouts. Don’t forget to reverse the yellow bus supply wiring. ? ??????????????????????????????? T ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian King
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [T-TrakGlobal] Tools ? Folks, I an "emergency" case of needing an additional module to fill in, the Kato double crossover just happens to be the correct length for a single module. Just saying... Brian |
We have a corner junction that is a non-standard size, and we have an offset module for the other side of the loop that travels with the corner. If someone brings a non-standard size module, should it not be their responsibility to provide the offset, or their module doesn't go into the layout?
We use polyester fitted table covers which look professional. "Polyester is considered one of the most flame-retardant materials available on the market..." At a show, just like Goeff, we run trains. And the bandage idea is a must! -bruce Bruce G Alcock?| OK N-Rail?| 405-381-4314?| nytrr@... |
开云体育We have been using very inexpensive black full bed top sheets. About $32 at Amazon for 6 so little over $5 each (watch sales at wallyworld and such sometimes folks have gotten close outs really cheap). Worked out cheaper than anything we could buy as fabric and then have to hem up. The full give a little extra length. They are microfiber polyester and have a nice bit of a supple feel and a bit of weight to them. They stand up well to washing and very little wrinkling even when packed in boxes tight folded up. We have been very happy with them. Being polyester they are one of the last fabrics to burn and even the just sorta melt rather than burst into flames. I use neodymium disc magnets ?to clamp up corners tucked up some so they don’t touch the ground for someone to catch with a foot oddly. The sheets give a nice drape close to the ground on most folding tables to hide stuff underneath but still not be on or right near the ground. Cheers, Jeff On Feb 26, 2024, at 8:32?AM, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:
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Sounds fair to me, and the T-TRAK standards suggest that although they don't stipulate it. It would only be common courtesy to provide the "correction". But none of that should be an at setup surprise. All info should have been provided and discussed during the registration process.
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The plastic roll stuff damages easily and can lead to a ratty display. The bed sheets (my first attempt at better table covering), are easily moved when laying several sheets on multiple tables or moving modules. As a result I used "painters tape" (green or blue masking tape) to tape them to the table's tops. The tape would be covered by the modules. Fitted table covers turned out to be easier and cheaper to get than I originally thought so now I have 4 x 8 footers and 6 x 6 footers that stay in place and have been determined to be the best solution. And I can get red ones! I haven't been able to run trains at shows for about 5 years - crowded layouts, layout electrical issues, show duties - so now I'm doing personal displays or small shows with a couple of friends. Maybe I'll get back to Trainfest next year IF it happens! T -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Alcock Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 3:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [T-TrakGlobal] Tools We have a corner junction that is a non-standard size, and we have an offset module for the other side of the loop that travels with the corner. If someone brings a non-standard size module, should it not be their responsibility to provide the offset, or their module doesn't go into the layout? We use polyester fitted table covers which look professional. "Polyester is considered one of the most flame-retardant materials available on the market..." At a show, just like Goeff, we run trains. And the bandage idea is a must! -bruce Bruce G Alcock | OK N-Rail | 405-381-4314 | nytrr@... |
I fully agree Bruce that if someone has a module with special?needs it is their responsibility to provide whatever is required. For starters a non-standard module should probably not even be?considered for a configuration. We have standards for a reason. I have modules that require?12 Vdc power. I bring a portable power supply to accommodate?those needs unless I am certain that a 12 Vdc buss is available and if so what type of connector is required. If I think I might need an extension cord I provide one.? Dave S On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:29?PM Bruce Alcock <nytrr@...> wrote: We have a corner junction that is a non-standard size, and we have an offset module for the other side of the loop that travels with the corner.? If someone brings a non-standard size module, should it not be their responsibility to provide the offset, or their module doesn't go into the layout? |
开云体育Actually, there are plenty of layout configurations where an ‘irregular’ module ?(what does ‘standard’ actually mean?) can be used; in??a single row spine immediately comes to mind. We use that design element often in our setups. In those cases, an irregular width module, or larger depth module, can easily be used w/o a need to ‘balance’ them with supporting infrastructure. Not every layout, nor every section of a layout, needs to be arranged in a back-to-back-on-a-single table configuration. T-TRAK modules lend themselves to be arranged into any layout configuration that can be imagined. The important part is that each module is ‘standard’ in that it can be connected physically(by height adjustment, track spacing, etc.) and electrically (by correct BWWB wiring and common bus connections) to its adjacent modules. Of course, the layout planner/designer needs to know about these irregular modules in advance so they can be placed where they will fit. On Feb 26, 2024, at 5:14?PM, Dave Sefcik <lenoxrealtor@...> wrote:
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Respectfully, Bruce M. Arbo CATT - Coastal Alabama T-TRAK The National T-TRAK Layout https://nationalt-traklayout.com/ |
开云体育Speaking of power supplies, our club picked up a 300wh battery backup power supply last year. These are lithium ion batteries with an inverter. 300wh gives you that total of time and watts, so 3hrs at 100w 6hrs at 50w. Etc. Our club does smaller setups to like 4 table lengths max so it can power that with 2 dc throttles (we don’t do dcc) for two days of a train show or a day with some accessories plugged in. Display shows percentage left (seems to be pretty linear with our use) and power being drawn thru the various outlets (120vac, 12vdc, or 5vdc). Best $200 investment we ever made! You can get bigger ones but they get heavy fast. The little 300ah systems are the size of a kids lunch box and about 7lbs. Little external transformer to plug in to charge. We are getting a second as a backup they are so handy and just incase there is an issue. Really golden at outside events where getting power can be a difficult extension cord run or very expensive to hook into the event’s generator system. But gone are the days of scoping out outlets and running power cords and taping them down. My business insurance agent said that was number 2 to slip and falls on liability claims/lawsuits and basically even if you tape it down very visibly and well it is almost always considered your fault, period, so I’m so glad to not have those nightmares anymore. So much faster setup and power is where ever we want to put the throttles. We do have a few very slim, long low amp extension cords in the tool bag we can run if a disaster strikes but getting those compact extension cords murphied us well and no issues so far! Would work with dcc but you would need a much bigger one for a big setup because of the power draw on those systems. But I expect for a small setup with a smaller dcc throttle it might run it for a normal event day, just depends on the watts it draws. Second huge addition a couple of years back were the folding wagons. I got a 52” long x16” wide one and it’s been such a schlep saver at events. Some of our events require long distances to move stuff from auto loading area to the event space. Making sure they had some pallet dollies was a pain and sometimes hard to get them and lift trucks are dangerous with stacks of plastic boxes sliding around. These are the perfect solution as just about the size of most of the module and support boxes and I stack it like 4’ high and throw a bungee cargo net over the top and I’ve hauled it a quarter mile across a convention center with ease. The pivoting front wheels make it super maneuverable and handle goes long enough for my long leg span to not have the wagon ride up on my heals. Folds up pretty compactly. Definitely easier to stow than any Dollie’s or hand trucks (besides the tiny folding ones that are the most dabderous to use as wheels can collapse on you hitting a hole and tip fast). Both have ?saved loads of time and effort and way more than worth the cost. Wish we had them 20 years ago! It’s taken the most of the dread out of shows with schlepping and running extension cords. It’s made thinking about doing ver small and/or short events much easier as a wagon full can fill 1-2 tables epithet ease. It’s looking like some of the small, cultural events are actually better reception and sparking interest for newbies to the hobby. We’ve done events of from a few hundred up to 150k and good ROI can be had with the little events now as well with these items added to our system. Smaller load here Cheers Jeff On Feb 26, 2024, at 6:14?PM, Dave Sefcik <lenoxrealtor@...> wrote:
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