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Rudder and tiller help
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I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could use
some help. Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? They must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt. Also, the rudder diagrams do not indicate the locations for the bolt thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also indicates a third hole in the rudder blade - is that for a stop? Please let me know soon. Thanks! |
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I have an 'early style' tiller and rudder assembly available for $95 + shipping. let me know if you are interested and I'll provide further details and photos. No sense in reinventing the wheel!
John C From: "fnhspartan" <marquette_93@...>_________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* |
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Wayne
Hi John,
I have an 'early style' tiller and rudder assembly available...How's the boat now that you've been sailing with the proper rudder? Getting any teaching time in on the Sunfish or just sailing the Hobie? You've been awful quite since you got your new boat parts. Wayne --- In sunfish_sailor@..., "John Campbell" <jkcjohn@h...> wrote: I have an 'early style' tiller and rudder assembly available for$95 + shipping. let me know if you are interested and I'll providefurther details and photos. No sense in reinventing the wheel!bolt thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also |
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Wayne
fnhspartan,
Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension?Take a look in the FILES area for a new tiller diagram. The rudder assembly diagram also indicates a third holeI believe the third hole you are looking at is actually the post for the kick-up spring. Wayne --- In sunfish_sailor@..., "fnhspartan" <marquette_93@h...> wrote: I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could usebolt thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also |
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Thanks, Wayne. I took my Sunfish out for the first time last
weekend. What an education! Saturday was too calm, and I could barely putt around. Sunday was too windy (15+ knots?) for a first-time sailor and I got blown down the lake. It was frustrating trying to sail straight and I found out how much sailing the boat requires skill rather than knowledge. I got very good at righting the boat after capsizing (must have done it 10 times) but the worst part was towing home a hull that was nearly filled with water. I emptied it out and it's sitting on dry land now but I need some advice: There are a number of scrapes and pits in the gel coat where I can see fiberglass. I can go around to each of those and patch them with West Systems epoxy. I plan to air-test the hull for leaks after that. Sound ok? Will I be doing any harm to the hull by sailing it again after these repairs (but before I dry it out)? Thanks again. -Mike --- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne" <wcarney@f...> wrote: fnhspartan,forAnybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension?Take a look in the FILES area for a new tiller diagram.The rudder assembly diagram also indicates a third holeI believe the third hole you are looking at is actually the post the kick-up spring.use Theysome help. must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt.bolt |
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Dave & Joyce
Please dry it out ASAP.
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The styrofoam inside can soak up the water if it is left inside. It then becomes a real nightmare getting the water back out of the styrofoam. Sometimes it isn't possible and one must open up the boat at the hull/topdeck joint, to remove and replace the foam. Again, the best bet is get rid of the water FIRST Thing. (grin) Dave J sd0044@... ======================================= ----- Original Message -----
From: fnhspartan To: sunfish_sailor@... Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Rudder and tiller help Thanks, Wayne. I took my Sunfish out for the first time last weekend. What an education! Saturday was too calm, and I could barely putt around. Sunday was too windy (15+ knots?) for a first-time sailor and I got blown down the lake. It was frustrating trying to sail straight and I found out how much sailing the boat requires skill rather than knowledge. I got very good at righting the boat after capsizing (must have done it 10 times) but the worst part was towing home a hull that was nearly filled with water. I emptied it out and it's sitting on dry land now but I need some advice: There are a number of scrapes and pits in the gel coat where I can see fiberglass. I can go around to each of those and patch them with West Systems epoxy. I plan to air-test the hull for leaks after that. Sound ok? Will I be doing any harm to the hull by sailing it again after these repairs (but before I dry it out)? Thanks again. -Mike --- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne" <wcarney@f...> wrote: > fnhspartan, > > > Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? > > Take a look in the FILES area for a new tiller diagram. > > > > The rudder assembly diagram also indicates a third hole > > I believe the third hole you are looking at is actually the post for > the kick-up spring. > > > Wayne > > > > --- In sunfish_sailor@..., "fnhspartan" > <marquette_93@h...> wrote: > > I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could use > > some help. > > > > Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? They > > must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt. > > > > Also, the rudder diagrams do not indicate the locations for the > bolt > > thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also > > indicates a third hole in the rudder blade - is that for a stop? > > > > Please let me know soon. Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT If you do not wish to belong to Sunfish_sailor, you may unsubscribe by sending an email to: sunfish_sailor-unsubscribe@... Please do not send unsubscribe requests directly to the group. USEFUL ADDRESSES Post message: sunfish_sailor@... Subscribe: sunfish_sailor-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: sunfish_sailor-unsubscribe@... URL to egroups page: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Wayne Carney
Hi Mike,
Saturday was too calm, and I could barely putt around.There are some tricks, e.g, Sit on the leeward side to help the sail to fill, sit down in the cockpit, push the boom out to catch some wind. You'll learn as you sail more. It was frustrating trying to sail straight and I found outKnowledge AND Skill! ...that puts you a class above power boats that only need gas. 8^) Try sailing "off the wind" a bit more while you are practicing your skills. Practice pointing close to the wind on calmer days. Easier said than done, but it's a way to handle stiff breezes. I got very good at righting the boat afterA very good skill to have. Good sailing classes teach this in the first lessons... you can see why now. You're really good when the boat blows over and you are still sitting on the side rail and don't even get wet. There are a number of scrapes and pits in the gel coat where I canGelcoat paste might be less expensive. I plan to air-test the hull for leaks afterSounds good. see: Remember, the technique is to blow air _at_ the drain hole, don't seal the connection and pressurize the hull - you can blow a seam. Sounds like you have been taking on a lot of water. The most important thing to do at this point is to install an inspection port. see: -and- Will I be doing any harm to the hull by sailing itThe sooner you can dry it out the better, but you should be able to go sailing in the mean time. If you are still taking on water you may be negating your efforts until you can let it dry completely. Look over the material on waterlogged boats in the Group FILES area. "Search" back through the various discussions on the topic in the message area. Sail on, Wayne OBTW, Lots more good tips in the Wind Line How To Page: -----Original Message----- |
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Hi Wayne,
I noticed you are active on this list and the beachcats list. I'm embarrased to say that I haven't gotten to sail the sunfish yet. The later part of the summer has been quite busy. I took the H18 to Florida two weeks ago, but decided not to piggyback the sunfish on the trailer. I'm just now catching up on life from that trip. The Ohio river is the closest body of water for me to sail the sunfish on, but it's been unusually muddy and high all summer long. I have a small lake about 30 minutes away that might do OK if I ever find the time. I'm sure I'll manage before the water gets hard and give a full report. Thanks for asking, John C Toy list: Hobie 18 Sunfish 928 Porsche Louisville,KY From: "Wayne" <wcarney@...>_________________________________________________________________ <b>Get MSN 8</b> and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. |
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Gail M. Turluck
Most suspect places to look are the entire daggerboard trunk, mast step, and
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if you have the old style rudder (brass fittings), the screw into the bottom of the hull. After those comes the rim of the deck, but those leaks are harder to repair (not impossible). Good luck. ] When air testing you need a fair amount of pressure, but not enough to blow the fiberglass off the 2-part expando-foam that glues it to the styrofoam blocks. --G ~~~/)~~~~/)~~~/)~~~~~/)~~~~~~/)~~ Gail M. Turluck Sunfish 24186 ~~~/)~~~~/)~~~/)~~~~~/)~~~~~~/)~~ -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Carney [mailto:wcarney@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:11 PM To: sunfish_sailor@... Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Rudder and tiller help Hi Mike, Saturday was too calm, and I could barely putt around.There are some tricks, e.g, Sit on the leeward side to help the sail to fill, sit down in the cockpit, push the boom out to catch some wind. You'll learn as you sail more. It was frustrating trying to sail straight and I found outKnowledge AND Skill! ...that puts you a class above power boats that only need gas. 8^) Try sailing "off the wind" a bit more while you are practicing your skills. Practice pointing close to the wind on calmer days. Easier said than done, but it's a way to handle stiff breezes. I got very good at righting the boat afterA very good skill to have. Good sailing classes teach this in the first lessons... you can see why now. You're really good when the boat blows over and you are still sitting on the side rail and don't even get wet. There are a number of scrapes and pits in the gel coat where I canGelcoat paste might be less expensive. I plan to air-test the hull for leaks afterSounds good. see: Remember, the technique is to blow air _at_ the drain hole, don't seal the connection and pressurize the hull - you can blow a seam. Sounds like you have been taking on a lot of water. The most important thing to do at this point is to install an inspection port. see: -and- Will I be doing any harm to the hull by sailing itThe sooner you can dry it out the better, but you should be able to go sailing in the mean time. If you are still taking on water you may be negating your efforts until you can let it dry completely. Look over the material on waterlogged boats in the Group FILES area. "Search" back through the various discussions on the topic in the message area. Sail on, Wayne OBTW, Lots more good tips in the Wind Line How To Page: -----Original Message----- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT If you do not wish to belong to Sunfish_sailor, you may unsubscribe by sending an email to: sunfish_sailor-unsubscribe@... Please do not send unsubscribe requests directly to the group. USEFUL ADDRESSES Post message: sunfish_sailor@... Subscribe: sunfish_sailor-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: sunfish_sailor-unsubscribe@... URL to egroups page: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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