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water in Sunfish


Judy Maier
 

I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.

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Wayne Carney
 

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.


Judy Maier
 

Hi Wayne,

Had to leave yesterday and just got your message. Yes this was done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Carney
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:30 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.

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Dave Jeffries
 

Hi Judy,

Is yours one with the drain plug on the upper right (starboard) side just forward of the cockpit ?
If so, are you propping the boat up so that the drain hole is down ?
If so, and no water is coming out (it may come pretty slow if the foam is soaked) you might inspect the drain hole to see that nothing is plugging it up from the inside (like a piece of dislodged foam).

If yours is one with the drain in the stern, again the flow may be slow and / or something may be plugging the hole.

After all the "loose" water is out then you will still have the challenge of the waterlogged foam to deal with.

Dave J
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----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Maier
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 09:07
Subject: Re: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


Hi Wayne,

Had to leave yesterday and just got your message. Yes this was done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Carney
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:30 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
> To: sunfish_sailor@...
> Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish
>
>
> I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
> even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
> full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
> had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
> longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.
>


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Wayne Carney
 

Hi Judy,

OK, having once been the owner of a 400 lb. bouncing baby Sunfish I can
relate to having a bit of water trapped in the hull.

I'll outline a couple of things here and let you apply what you feel is
appropriate.

Since the boat has gained a significant amount of weight I will assume that
the internal foam floatation has become waterlogged. To dry these foam
blocks out you will first need to install an inspection port - maybe two.
(see the "How To" at Wind Line Sails' web site)


You can passively dry the inner hull -
or you can use a hair dryer to actively dry it. Because of the extent that
my boat was waterlogged, I tried the active method first using one of those
portable hair dryers that uses a hose connected to a bonnet. I added a
vacuum cleaner hose extension and shoved the hose way inside the hull. In my
case I ran the hair dryer for a week without any significant improvement.
This leads to the next and more complicated approach.

If the foam blocks will not dry they will need to be replaced. This involves
separating the deck from the hull. It's involved, but not impossible - on
the older boats that have the aluminum trim around the hull to deck flange
it can work out well. I have not done this on the newer boats with the
rolled hull to deck flange and will have to make some inquiries to see how
its done.

If you decide you need to replace the blocks let me know and I will attempt
to guide you. There are some illustrated instructions around, but I can't
seem to find them at the moment.

Phase Dux ------

Since water has gotten into the hull I will assume there's another problem.

Sunfish can develop leaks at a couple of key points. The mast step, the
daggerboard trunk, and on older models the deck to hull flange and the
cockpit flange. The mast step is probably the most common leak point - but -
to be sure it is best to run a leak test.

This "How To" tells you how to find a leak.


Depending on what you find in the leak test will determine what will need to
be done beyond that.


As Doug Adams once said, "Don't PANIC"


Hope this helps,

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:07 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: Re: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


Hi Wayne,

Had to leave yesterday and just got your message. Yes this was done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Carney
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:30 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.


Wayne
 

Judy,

More information....

If you would like to see what the inside of the Sunfish hull looks
like, there is a series of photos of a '79 Fish in the Group FILES
section.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@m...]
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.