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Re: Rudder and tiller help

Wayne
 

fnhspartan,

Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension?
Take a look in the FILES area for a new tiller diagram.


The rudder assembly diagram also indicates a third hole
I believe the third hole you are looking at is actually the post for
the kick-up spring.


Wayne



--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "fnhspartan"
<marquette_93@h...> wrote:
I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could use
some help.

Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? They
must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt.

Also, the rudder diagrams do not indicate the locations for the
bolt
thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also
indicates a third hole in the rudder blade - is that for a stop?

Please let me know soon. Thanks!


New file uploaded to sunfish_sailor

 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the sunfish_sailor
group.

File : /Diagrams and Pictures/Tiller.gif
Uploaded by : sail_231 <wcarney@...>
Description : Dimensioned Tiller

You can access this file at the URL



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Re: Rudder and tiller help

Wayne
 

Hi John,

I have an 'early style' tiller and rudder assembly available...
How's the boat now that you've been sailing with the proper rudder?
Getting any teaching time in on the Sunfish or just sailing the Hobie?

You've been awful quite since you got your new boat parts.


Wayne





--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "John Campbell" <jkcjohn@h...>
wrote:
I have an 'early style' tiller and rudder assembly available for
$95 +
shipping. let me know if you are interested and I'll provide
further
details and photos. No sense in reinventing the wheel!

John C


From: "fnhspartan" <marquette_93@h...>
Reply-To: sunfish_sailor@...
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Rudder and tiller help
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:19:53 -0000

I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could use
some help.

Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? They
must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt.

Also, the rudder diagrams do not indicate the locations for the
bolt
thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also
indicates a third hole in the rudder blade - is that for a stop?

Please let me know soon. Thanks!


Auction fever

Wayne
 

Howdy,

Auction fever at it's best....



Note the current bid, the shipping charges, insurance, and the
price if this item purchased new.

...also check out the "Other Items by This Seller"


Wayne


Re: Supersunfish Season 2003

Wayne Carney
 

Hi Blent,

Sounds like you had a great holiday.

For teaching youngsters I have rigged my boat with a becket block in the
outer position. This allows one extra wrap in the mainsheet and reduces the
effort from 2:1 to 3:1. Adding the Vang sounds like a good idea too.


Stay cool,

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Blent Artz [mailto:bartuz@...]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:06 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Supersunfish Season 2003


After a 2 weeks holiday I turned back to my office. But it was good
season. The wind was so good, sunshine was allright. This was the
first time I ride SuperSunfish, we had some problems for optimal
rigging, but get over the problems with some custom made addons.

Wind was so heavy for the first week. It was very hard for one man on
the board. Because default rig size is very big, next year I need
second spare rig about 4.7m2 for heavy winds.

Board can climbe vey good to upwind. but it has son many ropes to
handle. After using it on the water, I searched for new hardwear,
specially on the Laser web sites;

I found the "Harken Vang" for optimal solution. I hope I can buy it
for next season.



I put photos to group members photo area.

Hi to all of you from Marmara Sea. (Trkiye)


Supersunfish Season 2003

 

After a 2 weeks holiday I turned back to my office. But it was good
season. The wind was so good, sunshine was allright. This was the
first time I ride SuperSunfish, we had some problems for optimal
rigging, but get over the problems with some custom made addons.

Wind was so heavy for the first week. It was very hard for one man on
the board. Because default rig size is very big, next year I need
second spare rig about 4.7m2 for heavy winds.

Board can climbe vey good to upwind. but it has son many ropes to
handle. After using it on the water, I searched for new hardwear,
specially on the Laser web sites;

I found the "Harken Vang" for optimal solution. I hope I can buy it
for next season.



I put photos to group members photo area.

Hi to all of you from Marmara Sea. (T¨¹rkiye)


Re: Welcome to the largest and best - NOT

Wayne Carney
 

Howdy everyone,

Sorry 'bout the Spam. Too bad the mosquito spray doesn't work on these
people too.

As I understand it "sailboattrade.com" is a front for a hokey dating
service.

Just delete their message any time it appears.


If you open it and go to their web site you are just encouraging them to
come back and post more.

BTW they can tell if you visit their site from within the group or from
within their message on your home machine. Clicking on their link isn't
doing anyone any good. Please ignore them.


Wayne


Re: Rudder and tiller help

 

I have an 'early style' tiller and rudder assembly available for $95 + shipping. let me know if you are interested and I'll provide further details and photos. No sense in reinventing the wheel!

John C


From: "fnhspartan" <marquette_93@...>
Reply-To: sunfish_sailor@...
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Rudder and tiller help
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:19:53 -0000

I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could use
some help.

Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? They
must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt.

Also, the rudder diagrams do not indicate the locations for the bolt
thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also
indicates a third hole in the rudder blade - is that for a stop?

Please let me know soon. Thanks!



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Rudder and tiller help

 

I'm making some parts for my Sunfish's maiden voyage and could use
some help.

Anybody got the dimensions of a simple tiller and extension? They
must be just two narrow boards pivoting on a single bolt.

Also, the rudder diagrams do not indicate the locations for the bolt
thru-hole and the spring posts. The rudder assembly diagram also
indicates a third hole in the rudder blade - is that for a stop?

Please let me know soon. Thanks!


Re: id please

kendall bonner
 

From: "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@...>

If you end up adding it to your fleet post a couple of photos so we can get
a look.


Wayne
I'll do that.hopefully he'll have a name for it, I'll ask him when I head over that way

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Re: id please

Wayne Carney
 

Ken,

Well, quite the enigma. Could be an old Sunfish with all the markings gone
and a replacement sail?? I'm not exactly in the neighborhood so it would be
a bit of a trek for me to look-see.

If you end up adding it to your fleet post a couple of photos so we can get
a look.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: kendall bonner [mailto:merc2dogs@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:26 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] id please

Hi Wayne,

there are no id tags on it, but it looks identical to the sunfish next to
it, if the sail didn't have the big M on it, I'd have gone on thinking it
was a sunfish.

sorry no pictures, they're at a lake that I sometimes go
sailing at, I was
out there the other day and a guy asked if I needed another sail for my
boat, and as I'm always willing to add to my 'junk' collection I checked
them out, he gave me the sail mast boom and yard from the 'non'
sunfish, and
said I could get the rest cheap,.
if you are in michigan, there is a boat that also looks like a sunfish,
sitting up at baptist lake with a $30. price tag on it, (yeah
it's an older
boat, but not wood) can't say anything about it other than that
it's yellow,
the hull looks good, and it's apparently not water logged,(I
could move it
easily to check out the hull condition) I was going sailing there
and saw it
leaning against a tree with a for sale sign on it, mast etc. were all
wrapped in the sail,and I didn't unwrap them to look at them, so the sail
may be dead. rudder and c-board looked in good shape. this is the
boat I was
thinking of when I picked up the other rig.

thanks ken


Re: id please

kendall bonner
 

From: "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@...>
Reply-To: sunfish_sailor@...
To: <sunfish_sailor@...>
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] id please
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:52:11 -0600

In the heyday of Sunfish (late '60 - '70's) literally hundreds (maybe
thousands) of knock-off boats were marketed by every boat builder and
sporting goods manufacturer you can think of.

Is there any way we can see a photo? Does the seller have these boats on the
web? Love to add this to the "Other Fish" album for future reference.

Hi Wayne,

there are no id tags on it, but it looks identical to the sunfish next to it, if the sail didn't have the big M on it, I'd have gone on thinking it was a sunfish.

sorry no pictures, they're at a lake that I sometimes go sailing at, I was out there the other day and a guy asked if I needed another sail for my boat, and as I'm always willing to add to my 'junk' collection I checked them out, he gave me the sail mast boom and yard from the 'non' sunfish, and said I could get the rest cheap,.
if you are in michigan, there is a boat that also looks like a sunfish, sitting up at baptist lake with a $30. price tag on it, (yeah it's an older boat, but not wood) can't say anything about it other than that it's yellow, the hull looks good, and it's apparently not water logged,(I could move it easily to check out the hull condition) I was going sailing there and saw it leaning against a tree with a for sale sign on it, mast etc. were all wrapped in the sail,and I didn't unwrap them to look at them, so the sail may be dead. rudder and c-board looked in good shape. this is the boat I was thinking of when I picked up the other rig.

thanks ken

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Re: id please

Wayne Carney
 

Hello merc2dogs,

Welcome !

Whew, that's a new one on me.... M(flower) - Miss Daisy? Mystery Flower?
Morning Flower? Magic Flower? Morning Glory? Monkey Flower? Montgomery
Wards?

Any Hull Identification Number on a plate or etched into the transom? For
example [ABC543210579] We could look it up in the USCG database?

In the heyday of Sunfish (late '60 - '70's) literally hundreds (maybe
thousands) of knock-off boats were marketed by every boat builder and
sporting goods manufacturer you can think of.

Is there any way we can see a photo? Does the seller have these boats on the
web? Love to add this to the "Other Fish" album for future reference.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: merc2dogs [mailto:merc2dogs@...]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:02 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] id please


Hello, new to the site,
located two boats that I plan to buy, one is definately a sunfish,
but the other I am unsure of, and was wondering if someone here could
help me out.
It looks like a sunfish as far as rigging and hull go same size etc,
(no tags or any id on the hull, so no help there), but the sail, while
an exact match for the sunfish, has instead of a 'fish' design, a
large black "M" with a small sunflower design on it, sail is white
with a yellow bar acress it. any ideas?
both are lateen rigs this boat has an aluminum plate c-board, and an
aluminum rudder, with a cast aluminum upper/pivot section, and wooden
tiller.


id please

merc2dogs
 

Hello, new to the site,
located two boats that I plan to buy, one is definately a sunfish,
but the other I am unsure of, and was wondering if someone here could
help me out.
It looks like a sunfish as far as rigging and hull go same size etc,
(no tags or any id on the hull, so no help there), but the sail, while
an exact match for the sunfish, has instead of a 'fish' design, a
large black "M" with a small sunflower design on it, sail is white
with a yellow bar acress it. any ideas?
both are lateen rigs this boat has an aluminum plate c-board, and an
aluminum rudder, with a cast aluminum upper/pivot section, and wooden
tiller.


Re: Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail

 

Hi Gail ....
Yeh, the lake is pretty neat. It is about 7 miles long and a half-
mile across. Depth is about 90 feet in some places ..... so not much
trouble with the weeds once you are out a bit. Also has a
smaller "sister lake" that has same "rules" relative to boats,
motors, and shoreline non-development. Have yet to sail it though.

Hey, forget the commute ... just re-locate! There's lots of places to
live on the lakes around here! <grin>.

Happy sailing! / JM


--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Gail Turluck" <turluck@c...>
wrote:
Dear JM,

That lake sounds like Sunfish heaven to me! We have a couple of
dammed
up wide spots in rivers around here with that speed limit and it
DOES
keep the jet skiis and power boats away ... However, they're so
shallow that the weeds keep the sailors away, too!

Oh well. Enjoy ... Finger Lakes is kind of a long commute from
southeast Michigan!

8)

--Gail

<html><body>


<tt>
Hi Wayne ..... <BR>
Interesting point on the sensitivity of the cassette tape. I
agree
<BR>
that it is pretty sensitive... but in "nearly non-existent wind"
<BR>
situations, I find that, if the tape flutters, and I set my sail
to
<BR>
catch it .... it usually moves me along. Of course, I'm doing the
<BR>
other "light wind tricks" also just as you say .... leaning a bit
to
<BR>
leeward, pushing the boom out, sailing with daggerboard pulled up
<BR>
high, etc. Also, when you think of it, you are always going to
have
<BR>
your sail set SOMEWHERE .... so I figure I might as well set it
to
<BR>
catch even the light flutters. If they move me ... GREAT .... if
they
<BR>
don't... then maybe the next one will <grin>. <BR>
<BR>
Having said that, I still think I am also going to try your yarn
<BR>
suggestion though (At 10 cents, I can probably afford another
one).
<BR>
The thing I MIGHT like better about the yarn is ...... that it
<BR>
probably won't go into "curlies" like the cassette tape sometimes
<BR>
does. I suspect you use a yarn that does not weigh down with
water
<BR>
if/when it gets wet? <BR>
<BR>
Yeh, I hear ya on the Jet-ski/Power boats. However, I recently
<BR>
started sailing on Hemlock Lake (one of the 11 Finger Lakes). No
<BR>
problem there with high-power boats or Jet-ski's .... they <BR>
aren't allowed. Largest boats allowed are 16 foot, and largest
motor
<BR>
allowed is 10 HP (so only see an occasional fisherman or canoe).
Also
<BR>
no developement of shoreline allowed, so it is really like being
on a
<BR>
lake in the true wilderness; very peaceful! Wish there were more
<BR>
lakes like it.<BR>
<BR>
Take care .... Happy sailing.<BR>
<BR>
/JM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney"
<wcarney@f...>
<BR>
wrote:<BR>
JM,<BR>
<BR>
That tel-tail is about the best idea since sliced bread. A <BR>
commercial<BR>
version is out there too, but like you say this one only cost
about
<BR>
10<BR>
cents.<BR>
<BR>
I found the cassette tape was a bit too sensitive to the wind.
It
<BR>
will tell<BR>
you there is a breeze when the air movement isn't enough to
pull
<BR>
the boat. I<BR>
switched to yarn... I take a piece and separate the strands
down to
<BR>
one and<BR>
use that as the indicator. That seems to match the Fish's need
for
<BR>
wind<BR>
energy much more closely. Now if the tel-tail moves so will the
<BR>
boat.<BR>
<BR>
I'm talking about the worst case - nearly nonexistent wind. I
may
<BR>
still have<BR>
to lean a tad to leeward and push the boom out just to get the
sail
<BR>
to fill,<BR>
but if the yarn flutters then I know I will make way enough to
beat
<BR>
the<BR>
driftwood and flotsam home.<BR>
<BR>
....then the jet skis zoom by and stop you dead in their wake,
but
<BR>
that's<BR>
another issue.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Wayne<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: kuzitsfun [mailto:jmahon01@y...]<BR>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:18 PM<BR>
To: sunfish_sailor@...<BR>
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-
Tail<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
If any of you are sailing your Sunfish without a "Tell-Tail"
(a
<BR>
wind<BR>
indicator), I highly recommend that you try making the one
shown
<BR>
on<BR>
WINDLINE. It is easy to make .... and works really great!
The<BR>
materials to make it probably cost about 10 cents.... and it
may
<BR>
take<BR>
about 10 minutes of your time to make it. I used this one to
<BR>
replace<BR>
a $15-20 "Tell-Tail" which I had lost in a spill (actually, I
<BR>
think<BR>
this home-made one works better than the one I lost). Check
it
out<BR>
at:<BR>
<BR>
<a
href=">
wi
nd_indic.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
For those that may be unfamiliar with a "Tell-tail" ...... it
<BR>
enables<BR>
you to always know which direction your RELATIVE wind is
coming<BR>
from .... in order that you can set your sail accordingly, to
take<BR>
advantage of it. It is ESPECIALLY useful on those days, when
<BR>
there is<BR>
seemingly little or no wind, but I find it useful even on
days
<BR>
when<BR>
the wind is brisk.<BR>
<BR>
Happy sailing!<BR>
<BR>
/JM


Re: Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail

Wayne Carney
 

Hey JM,

I suspect you use a yarn that does not weigh down
with water if/when it gets wet?
Just cheap ol' polyester from Hobby Lobby. Lifetime supply for 99 cents.
(good for tying flies too if you get the right color) If it gets wet it
dries quick enough.... usually by the time I get the cockpit bailed. And,
usually if it gets dunked I don't need it anyway.

Hemlock Lake sounds like a pretty nice place to sail.


Wayne





-----Original Message-----
From: kuzitsfun [mailto:jmahon01@...]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:38 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail


Hi Wayne .....
Interesting point on the sensitivity of the cassette tape. I agree
that it is pretty sensitive... but in "nearly non-existent wind"
situations, I find that, if the tape flutters, and I set my sail to
catch it .... it usually moves me along. Of course, I'm doing the
other "light wind tricks" also just as you say .... leaning a bit to
leeward, pushing the boom out, sailing with daggerboard pulled up
high, etc. Also, when you think of it, you are always going to have
your sail set SOMEWHERE .... so I figure I might as well set it to
catch even the light flutters. If they move me ... GREAT .... if they
don't... then maybe the next one will <grin>.

Having said that, I still think I am also going to try your yarn
suggestion though (At 10 cents, I can probably afford another one).
The thing I MIGHT like better about the yarn is ...... that it
probably won't go into "curlies" like the cassette tape sometimes
does. I suspect you use a yarn that does not weigh down with water
if/when it gets wet?

Yeh, I hear ya on the Jet-ski/Power boats. However, I recently
started sailing on Hemlock Lake (one of the 11 Finger Lakes). No
problem there with high-power boats or Jet-ski's .... they
aren't allowed. Largest boats allowed are 16 foot, and largest motor
allowed is 10 HP (so only see an occasional fisherman or canoe). Also
no developement of shoreline allowed, so it is really like being on a
lake in the true wilderness; very peaceful! Wish there were more
lakes like it.

Take care .... Happy sailing.

/JM


Re: Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail

Gail Turluck
 

Dear JM,

That lake sounds like Sunfish heaven to me! We have a couple of dammed
up wide spots in rivers around here with that speed limit and it DOES
keep the jet skiis and power boats away ... However, they're so
shallow that the weeds keep the sailors away, too!

Oh well. Enjoy ... Finger Lakes is kind of a long commute from
southeast Michigan!

8)

--Gail

<html><body>


<tt>
Hi Wayne ..... <BR>
Interesting point on the sensitivity of the cassette tape. I agree
<BR>
that it is pretty sensitive... but in "nearly non-existent wind" <BR>
situations, I find that, if the tape flutters, and I set my sail to
<BR>
catch it .... it usually moves me along. Of course, I'm doing the <BR>
other "light wind tricks" also just as you say .... leaning a bit to
<BR>
leeward, pushing the boom out, sailing with daggerboard pulled up <BR>
high, etc. Also, when you think of it, you are always going to have
<BR>
your sail set SOMEWHERE .... so I figure I might as well set it to
<BR>
catch even the light flutters. If they move me ... GREAT .... if they
<BR>
don't... then maybe the next one will <grin>. <BR>
<BR>
Having said that, I still think I am also going to try your yarn <BR>
suggestion though (At 10 cents, I can probably afford another one).
<BR>
The thing I MIGHT like better about the yarn is ...... that it <BR>
probably won't go into "curlies" like the cassette tape sometimes <BR>
does. I suspect you use a yarn that does not weigh down with water
<BR>
if/when it gets wet? <BR>
<BR>
Yeh, I hear ya on the Jet-ski/Power boats. However, I recently <BR>
started sailing on Hemlock Lake (one of the 11 Finger Lakes). No <BR>
problem there with high-power boats or Jet-ski's .... they <BR>
aren't allowed. Largest boats allowed are 16 foot, and largest motor
<BR>
allowed is 10 HP (so only see an occasional fisherman or canoe). Also
<BR>
no developement of shoreline allowed, so it is really like being on a
<BR>
lake in the true wilderness; very peaceful! Wish there were more <BR>
lakes like it.<BR>
<BR>
Take care .... Happy sailing.<BR>
<BR>
/JM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
<BR>
wrote:<BR>
JM,<BR>
<BR>
That tel-tail is about the best idea since sliced bread. A <BR>
commercial<BR>
version is out there too, but like you say this one only cost about
<BR>
10<BR>
cents.<BR>
<BR>
I found the cassette tape was a bit too sensitive to the wind. It
<BR>
will tell<BR>
you there is a breeze when the air movement isn't enough to pull
<BR>
the boat. I<BR>
switched to yarn... I take a piece and separate the strands down to
<BR>
one and<BR>
use that as the indicator. That seems to match the Fish's need for
<BR>
wind<BR>
energy much more closely. Now if the tel-tail moves so will the <BR>
boat.<BR>
<BR>
I'm talking about the worst case - nearly nonexistent wind. I may
<BR>
still have<BR>
to lean a tad to leeward and push the boom out just to get the sail
<BR>
to fill,<BR>
but if the yarn flutters then I know I will make way enough to beat
<BR>
the<BR>
driftwood and flotsam home.<BR>
<BR>
....then the jet skis zoom by and stop you dead in their wake, but
<BR>
that's<BR>
another issue.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Wayne<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: kuzitsfun [mailto:jmahon01@y...]<BR>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:18 PM<BR>
To: sunfish_sailor@...<BR>
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
If any of you are sailing your Sunfish without a "Tell-Tail" (a
<BR>
wind<BR>
indicator), I highly recommend that you try making the one shown
<BR>
on<BR>
WINDLINE. It is easy to make .... and works really great! The<BR>
materials to make it probably cost about 10 cents.... and it may
<BR>
take<BR>
about 10 minutes of your time to make it. I used this one to <BR>
replace<BR>
a $15-20 "Tell-Tail" which I had lost in a spill (actually, I <BR>
think<BR>
this home-made one works better than the one I lost). Check it
out<BR>
at:<BR>
<BR>
<a
href=">
nd_indic.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
For those that may be unfamiliar with a "Tell-tail" ...... it <BR>
enables<BR>
you to always know which direction your RELATIVE wind is
coming<BR>
from .... in order that you can set your sail accordingly, to
take<BR>
advantage of it. It is ESPECIALLY useful on those days, when <BR>
there is<BR>
seemingly little or no wind, but I find it useful even on days
<BR>
when<BR>
the wind is brisk.<BR>
<BR>
Happy sailing!<BR>
<BR>
/JM


Re: Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail

 

Hi Wayne .....
Interesting point on the sensitivity of the cassette tape. I agree
that it is pretty sensitive... but in "nearly non-existent wind"
situations, I find that, if the tape flutters, and I set my sail to
catch it .... it usually moves me along. Of course, I'm doing the
other "light wind tricks" also just as you say .... leaning a bit to
leeward, pushing the boom out, sailing with daggerboard pulled up
high, etc. Also, when you think of it, you are always going to have
your sail set SOMEWHERE .... so I figure I might as well set it to
catch even the light flutters. If they move me ... GREAT .... if they
don't... then maybe the next one will <grin>.

Having said that, I still think I am also going to try your yarn
suggestion though (At 10 cents, I can probably afford another one).
The thing I MIGHT like better about the yarn is ...... that it
probably won't go into "curlies" like the cassette tape sometimes
does. I suspect you use a yarn that does not weigh down with water
if/when it gets wet?

Yeh, I hear ya on the Jet-ski/Power boats. However, I recently
started sailing on Hemlock Lake (one of the 11 Finger Lakes). No
problem there with high-power boats or Jet-ski's .... they
aren't allowed. Largest boats allowed are 16 foot, and largest motor
allowed is 10 HP (so only see an occasional fisherman or canoe). Also
no developement of shoreline allowed, so it is really like being on a
lake in the true wilderness; very peaceful! Wish there were more
lakes like it.

Take care .... Happy sailing.

/JM


--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
wrote:
JM,

That tel-tail is about the best idea since sliced bread. A
commercial
version is out there too, but like you say this one only cost about
10
cents.

I found the cassette tape was a bit too sensitive to the wind. It
will tell
you there is a breeze when the air movement isn't enough to pull
the boat. I
switched to yarn... I take a piece and separate the strands down to
one and
use that as the indicator. That seems to match the Fish's need for
wind
energy much more closely. Now if the tel-tail moves so will the
boat.

I'm talking about the worst case - nearly nonexistent wind. I may
still have
to lean a tad to leeward and push the boom out just to get the sail
to fill,
but if the yarn flutters then I know I will make way enough to beat
the
driftwood and flotsam home.

....then the jet skis zoom by and stop you dead in their wake, but
that's
another issue.


Wayne





-----Original Message-----
From: kuzitsfun [mailto:jmahon01@y...]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:18 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail


If any of you are sailing your Sunfish without a "Tell-Tail" (a
wind
indicator), I highly recommend that you try making the one shown
on
WINDLINE. It is easy to make .... and works really great! The
materials to make it probably cost about 10 cents.... and it may
take
about 10 minutes of your time to make it. I used this one to
replace
a $15-20 "Tell-Tail" which I had lost in a spill (actually, I
think
this home-made one works better than the one I lost). Check it out
at:



For those that may be unfamiliar with a "Tell-tail" ...... it
enables
you to always know which direction your RELATIVE wind is coming
from .... in order that you can set your sail accordingly, to take
advantage of it. It is ESPECIALLY useful on those days, when
there is
seemingly little or no wind, but I find it useful even on days
when
the wind is brisk.

Happy sailing!

/JM


Re: Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail

Wayne Carney
 

JM,

That tel-tail is about the best idea since sliced bread. A commercial
version is out there too, but like you say this one only cost about 10
cents.

I found the cassette tape was a bit too sensitive to the wind. It will tell
you there is a breeze when the air movement isn't enough to pull the boat. I
switched to yarn... I take a piece and separate the strands down to one and
use that as the indicator. That seems to match the Fish's need for wind
energy much more closely. Now if the tel-tail moves so will the boat.

I'm talking about the worst case - nearly nonexistent wind. I may still have
to lean a tad to leeward and push the boom out just to get the sail to fill,
but if the yarn flutters then I know I will make way enough to beat the
driftwood and flotsam home.

....then the jet skis zoom by and stop you dead in their wake, but that's
another issue.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: kuzitsfun [mailto:jmahon01@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:18 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail


If any of you are sailing your Sunfish without a "Tell-Tail" (a wind
indicator), I highly recommend that you try making the one shown on
WINDLINE. It is easy to make .... and works really great! The
materials to make it probably cost about 10 cents.... and it may take
about 10 minutes of your time to make it. I used this one to replace
a $15-20 "Tell-Tail" which I had lost in a spill (actually, I think
this home-made one works better than the one I lost). Check it out
at:



For those that may be unfamiliar with a "Tell-tail" ...... it enables
you to always know which direction your RELATIVE wind is coming
from .... in order that you can set your sail accordingly, to take
advantage of it. It is ESPECIALLY useful on those days, when there is
seemingly little or no wind, but I find it useful even on days when
the wind is brisk.

Happy sailing!

/JM


Pitch for an inexpensive Tell-Tail

 

If any of you are sailing your Sunfish without a "Tell-Tail" (a wind
indicator), I highly recommend that you try making the one shown on
WINDLINE. It is easy to make .... and works really great! The
materials to make it probably cost about 10 cents.... and it may take
about 10 minutes of your time to make it. I used this one to replace
a $15-20 "Tell-Tail" which I had lost in a spill (actually, I think
this home-made one works better than the one I lost). Check it out
at:



For those that may be unfamiliar with a "Tell-tail" ...... it enables
you to always know which direction your RELATIVE wind is coming
from .... in order that you can set your sail accordingly, to take
advantage of it. It is ESPECIALLY useful on those days, when there is
seemingly little or no wind, but I find it useful even on days when
the wind is brisk.

Happy sailing!

/JM