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Re: Hull repair
Howard Bishop
I'm no expert, but pending better info, here goes.
I don't think the spider cracks are necesarily a big deal. Many times they indicate an impact of some sort (which explains why they're near the rubrail). Depending on how many and how serious they are, it might not be a problem at all. I'd recommend two things: 1) check www.sunfishclass.org and go through some of the maintenance links they have. The guy from Windline sails has some really good info. 2) call the Gougeon brothers and get the WEST guide to fiberglass boat maintenance and repair. If you order from them it's 3 bucks and will likely show up in a very few days. It has some good info on fixing cracks etc. I'm not sure I'd seal and paint it without checking to see if it leaked first. You might add a couple pounds needlessly. Good luck! --- fourbluedevils <ccross@...> wrote: Hi, new sailor and sunfish owner here. I was hoping __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better |
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Hull repair
Hi, new sailor and sunfish owner here. I was hoping someone could
provide me with guidance on sealing my hull. In cleaning the 1983-era sunfish I recently acquired, I noticed lots of spider cracks on the topside and bottomside. Also a lot of cracking under the molding where the top and bottom join. The hull has been sitting outside and uncovered for a long time. While cleaning/polishing the bottomside I could actually hear the gelcoat (or what is left of it) cracking. How bad is this and how should I approach it? I have not actually placed the hull in the water yet as I want to keep it dry until I make repairs. I am not overly concerned at this point with cosmetics. Can I apply an epoxy sealer followed by a paint? I am limited in time and have to work on this outdoors without shelter. I appreciate any tips you could provide me. Thanks. |
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Re: Old style rudder
Wayne Carney
Gail,
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Your inputs are very much appreciated here. Thanks for your sage advice. <g> Wayne Carney 77742 -----Original Message----- |
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Re: Old style rudder
Gail M. Turluck
I suggest you merely go to the hardware store, purchase a brass bolt and
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wing nut of the appropriate size and length, and go sailing! I sailed one in such a state for many years. Have fun! ~~/)~~/)~~~~/)~~/)~~~/)~~ Gail M. Turluck Sunfish 24186 ISCA Masters Coordinator USSCA Masters Chairman MCSA Graduate Secretary ~~/)~~/)~~~~/)~~/)~~~/)~~ -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Carney [mailto:wcarney@...] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 3:36 PM To: sunfish_sailor@... Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] Old style rudder Hmmmmm, that's gonna be a tough one. I have created a FOLDER in the group FILES section called "Rudder". Inside the folder is an old catalog diagram of both current and past rudder designs. Please take a look at the diagram and identify which pin it is that you need - vertical or horizontal? If nobody at this site offers up the part(s) you might check out the Dealer links here: You could also contact Vanguard (the present manufacturer) and see what resources they have. Additionally, and probably your best bet these days, you may need to fabricate the replacement. If you don't locate the part and decide to update to the new style mount, contact me, I've done two of them so far with good results. (It ain't cheap, though) Wayne -----Original Message----- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: sunfish_sailor-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: Old style rudder
Wayne Carney
Hmmmmm, that's gonna be a tough one.
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I have created a FOLDER in the group FILES section called "Rudder". Inside the folder is an old catalog diagram of both current and past rudder designs. Please take a look at the diagram and identify which pin it is that you need - vertical or horizontal? If nobody at this site offers up the part(s) you might check out the Dealer links here: You could also contact Vanguard (the present manufacturer) and see what resources they have. Additionally, and probably your best bet these days, you may need to fabricate the replacement. If you don't locate the part and decide to update to the new style mount, contact me, I've done two of them so far with good results. (It ain't cheap, though) Wayne -----Original Message----- |
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Re: Sailfish/Sunfish parts
Malcolm Dickinson
"organicdavid" <organicdavid@...> writes:
I had a wooden Sailfish which was made in the 1960s. It had a distinctive rudder - it had a bulbous shape, significantly different than the Sunfish - and a daggerboard which was noticeably smaller than the Sunfish. I think by 1980, when Alcort was still making a few (very few) Sailfish, that they had changed the parts to be identical to those they were supplying on the Sunfish. Malcolm |
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Re: Sunfish/Sailfish - same parts?
Wayne Carney
David,
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Some SAILfish parts were at one time interchangeable with the '60's SUNfish. In the '70's the SUNfish designs changed. I believe it was also about that time the SAILfish was phased out. Is it possible for you to email photos of what it is you are looking to do? You are welcome to email photos to me directly and I will see if I can provide you with some guidance. You can also _POST_ photos in the Sunfish_Sailor group (but you cannot email them to the group as an attachment). The group members can all view what you post and offer advice. If you choose to POST pictures, it would be best if you placed them in the FILES area and create a FOLDER where they can be kept organized. Wayne wcarney@... -----Original Message----- |
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Sunfish/Sailfish - same parts?
organicdavid
I recently purchased a sunfish and am excited to get it in the
water. There are a couple of parts that need some help. Especially the rudder and daggerboard. I have found some parts from a Sailfish that I can have, but will they be the same size? They look about the same from the pictures... Thanks! David |
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Re: Hello all, new to group...
Wayne Carney
Howdy Nick,
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I believe you are looking at the cockpit self-bailer. Check out the diagram on this web page and see if it shows what you are looking at. If you are looking at the bailer then it should "leak" water. It has an internal float ball that seals it from letting water into the cockpit when the boat is in the water (unless the boat is moving). When the boat is out of the water the bailer should let water out normally. Wayne -----Original Message-----
From: nickwright_tx [mailto:nickwright_tx@...] Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Hello all, new to group... On the port side bottom of the boat, maybe just a little aft of the cockpit there is a small dome shaped metal object attached. I knew that the boat was being kept without a cover so I purposefully, well kindof, went to look at her after a good rain to see if there were any leaks in the boat. Anyway, there was water leaking from this thing attached to the bottom of the boat. Can someone tell me what this is, and if it should in fact be leaking water? I'd appreciate any help you all can give. Thanks in advance. Nick Wright |
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Hello all, new to group...
nickwright_tx
Hi my name is Nick, I live in North Texas, and am considering
the purchase of a sunfish for recreational use on some of the local lakes. I've found one that is in overall good condition for a decent price I just have one question. On the port side bottom of the boat, maybe just a little aft of the cockpit there is a small dome shaped metal object attached. I knew that the boat was being kept without a cover so I purposefully, well kindof, went to look at her after a good rain to see if there were any leaks in the boat. Anyway, there was water leaking from this thing attached to the bottom of the boat. Can someone tell me what this is, and if it should in fact be leaking water? I'd appreciate any help you all can give. Thanks in advance. Nick Wright |
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Re: New Fish
Wayne Carney
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There are a couple of links you may find useful in the bookmark section of this group. You may also find the inner hull pictures in the files section helpful in your fix-up efforts. To save you a little time, Vanguard (the current manufacturer) lists dealers in your state including ones in Sarasota, and Clearwater, on this web page: FL%5EUnited+States&submit=Go%21 Pre-'95 Sunfish can be really great boats. I have a '79 in mint condition and like it better than the new design. OBTW, I'm also a big fan of the gaff-rig Catboat design. Your project sounds outstanding..... are you building the Whitholz from plans or restoring a classic? I'm not familiar with that particular boat. Good Sailing, Wayne -----Original Message----- |
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Re: New Fish
Howard Bishop
Hi!
You guys will have a blast with the Sunfish I bet. There are several places in Florida that stock Sunfish parts including the Tackle Shack. You could check www.sunfishclass.org and look at the links section, or check the Vanguard website (also linked at the Sunfish class page) and use the "dealer locater" function on their website. Happy Hunting! --- cngrsmn <cngrsmn@...> wrote: Hi everybody, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup |
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New Fish
cngrsmn
Hi everybody,
I'm a Dad with a 10 year old daughter in summer camp learning how to sail this year. I went out and bought a fixer-upper (spent 50 bucks) pre-95 Sunfish. Needs some work but that's no big deal. I was hoping somebody could give me some advice on where to buy parts. I've seen APS racing out of Annapolis, there's got to be more. I build boats for a living if anybody has any questions about repair work I'd be glad to help out all I can. We plan on sailing on the lakes in Central Florida and the West Coast of Florida Thanks, Jeff |
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First time.....
I was born in Istanbul where it a big city which has air polution
problem. Because of this and my alergy to dust and air polution, my parents decided to live at least at summer time, at a place near to the sea. And they choose a place at Marmara Sea name Sark?y (read as Sharkouy) I was so near to sea all the time, swimming, fishing, playing etc.. All that time, everybody was so disappointed about wheather conditions of Marmara Sea because it was too windy. Specially 15.th of July to 15.Th of August. Wind is coming from left side of shore and bringing big waves about 3mt high. About 20 years ago (I'm getting older) when I was an univercity student me, my big brother and a couple of my friends decided to sail but has no equipment. Having a very small wood boat (about 1.5meter long) we decided to build a sailing boat. A local carpenter made us a very nice mast about 2.5meter long. And steeling the curtains of our house from mom ve made our sails. That season we sailed when ever we want and don't want. Boat was getting broken and we were fixing it at sea whith a halp of hammer and nails. It was so funny, there was a big engineering problem because it was not turning so we have to jump to sea and make it turn. Next season my dad decided to buy me a SunFish because of the troubles that we have. Until that time I didn't know there was a boat called sunfish on earth. I was struggling with my univ. exams, my dad and my big brother went to Izmir (a city) to bring the Sunfish to ?ark?y. Few days later I was on it. The feeling was so great, we were two people on it (me and my brother) and it was running like on grease. Suddenly, when we want to jibe (turn) the boat turned upside down and my brother shouted me "see what have you done!?@" and began to swim to coast. I didn't know what I should do. (As being a engineer) I pushed to draggerboard to turn it. And I succeded. It was my first time making love with Sunfish, holding it, turning it, undurstanding it. But it was not the last. TO BE CONTINUED |
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Re: Corrected Reply to: A Member form Turkey
Merhaba,
I uploaded a photo of me to "Photos" at Marmara sea. I have same adventures both with sunfish and windsurf but have to translate it to english. Soon, I'll do it. For the windsurf photos go to: See you... --- In sunfish_sailor@y..., "a_little_dinghy" <wcarney@f...> wrote: Bulent Merhaba,of where you sail. |
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A Member form Turkey
Hello all,
I'm from Turkey and sailing since 1980 at Marmara sea. I find myself so lucky to have a sea like Marmara because it has a very deep history and it is sea which has a all coast-line belongs to my country. It has very strong winds. I began to sailing with sunfish after 5 years windsurf took its place. But this year I (& some of my friends) decided to buy new sunfishs and travell across the Marmara sea with our tents to stay one night at Islands. Its very good to have a club like this I will share my adventures and photos with world-wide. We are using here Turkish made sunfishes. Inside off hull is a little bit different than I saw at some internet sites. I'll send you some hull photos also. If someone want to learn about sailing in Turkey ask me... See you.. |
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FW: NOR CT River Race
Wayne Carney
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From: Sunfish Sailboat Racing - East & Gulf Coasts [mailto:SUNFISH@...]On Behalf Of PXBECKWITH@... Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:47 AM To: SUNFISH@... Subject: NOR CT River Race THE LIONS SUNFISH CONNECTICUT RIVER CLASSIC JUNE 1st AND 2nd, 2002 This is the 28th happening of the Connecticut River Classic. Entries are limited and advanced registration is required. Entry fee includes T-shirts, a cookout and camping Saturday night, Sunday morning breakfast, lunch and awards ceremony downriver in Essex about 2:00 PM Sunday. Each crew is required to carry all camping gear, lunch/snacks, clothing and other supplies for the two days on the Sunfish. Awards are presented in three divisions: Mixed Doubles (male and female or female and male), Odd Couples (crews consisting of two members of the same sex, gender, and/or part of the human race), and Solo. This pre-registered, rain or shine, event is an overnight journey with all camping and personal supplies aboard a Sunfish sailboat. The adventure begins with the first race leaving Rocky Hill at 9:00 AM Saturday. The course covers 40 miles of the historic Connecticut River. After a successful revival in 1991, it is being organized again by the Old Saybrook Lions Club. Many leave their Sunfish in Rocky Hill sometime after 7:00 PM Friday, where security is provided. They then bring their cars, trailers, etc. to the finish in Essex. At 7:00 Saturday they catch the chartered bus for the return to Rocky Hill. Others wait until Saturday morning and accomplish the logistics with the help of family and/or friends. After check-in, the boat is rigged, packed with gear (using plastic bags and shock cords), and launched. A couple of races and a lunch break provide a chance to stretch legs and to look forward to arrival at the campsite. Pitching a tent (or a reasonable substitute) is the first order of business after landing at the campsite. Many use small tents, but some make use of spars and sail in a lean-to fashion alone or with others. Now is the time to enjoy the meal prepared by the Old Saybrook LIONS club, gather around the campfire and enjoy the fellowship of fellow travelers and share some of the experiences of the day. Sunday morning starts with another treat. Our pride of LIONS serves a breakfast to prepare our camper-sailors to face the rigors of the river. Between the races into Essex, some crews consume a snack of whatever remains in their gear (such as a can of cold beans) or a leftover from breakfast. After the completion of the last race, a light lunch and end-of-race ceremonies smooth the reunion of our voyagers with family and friends. Whether you participate in the race or just watch as we pass your viewing point along the river, the 2002 LIONS SUNFISH CONNECTICUT RIVER CLASSIC will provide fond memories for all. Proceeds raised from this event (and other club efforts) are used in the fight against vision problems, Diabetes and hearing loss. For information send an email to rpcampbell@... or a SASE to: 2001 Lions Sunfish Connecticut River Classic, Old Saybrook Lions Club, PO Box 21, Old Saybrook, CT 06475 Entry Fee $95 per boat ($75 if Solo) Bus from Essex to Rocky Hill @ $5.00 per person. FO OFF ** * commands: LISTSERV@... * postings: SUNFISH@... * questions: SUNFISH-Request@... ** FO ON |
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