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new ffn problem. ATTN Rai


 

I downloaded, installed it, and tried to run it. This is what I got. .

I'm using Win XP Pro SP3 32-bit.

Please make a version I can use.


 

WinXP, 32bit... That's very behind the times?


On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 13:31 Ariel Schnee <arielschnee3@...> wrote:

I downloaded, installed it, and tried to run it. This is what I got. .

I'm using Win XP Pro SP3 32-bit.

Please make a version I can use.


 

Like I mentioned before, this is the only comp/OS I will have access to for the foreseeable future now.


 

Email me off the list if your computer can take Windows 10.
I have a spare Win 10 Pro Key.

Virus-free.


On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 4:51 AM Ariel Schnee <arielschnee3@...> wrote:
Like I mentioned before, this is the only comp/OS I will have access to for the foreseeable future now.


 

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Hi,

I'm getting multiple emails about the 64 bit problem so I'll build a 32 bit version as soon as possible - as long as my buildserver will do as i tell him. (Didn't expect that to still be a problem)

I expect that it'll definitifely run on win 7/8.1

But I have no idea about XP. If it's not running there then there's nothing I can do about it since I can only support plattforms that the framework supports. And according to their website thats Win 7, 8.1 and 10, macOS 10.13, 10.14 10.15. It's really not a matter of "I don't want to" but only "I simply can't do it technically"

But if 0.9.1 (which still was 32 Bit) wasn't able to run on XP then that will be likely also be true for 0.9.2 and following.

Raimond

Am 21.12.2020 um 13:30 schrieb Ariel Schnee:

I downloaded, installed it, and tried to run it. This is what I got. .

I'm using Win XP Pro SP3 32-bit.

Please make a version I can use.


 

I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time; almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.

Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server 2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle?to find applications that work.

I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in 2018.? Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of some kind.

Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable.? It has been so for a number of years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it.? I have a key for it if you need one.

Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field


 
Edited

Please stop mentioning Windows 10. I have already explained that I am stuck with what I have for the foreseeable future. My computer is an old Win 98 upgraded to XP. It barely runs XP. It cannot handle anything higher.

I am broke(have no money), crippled, and living in a nursing home. All my "good stuff" was stolen when my house was broken into while I was away. This old computer can barely handle Win XP now. Especially with half of it's capacitors blown. I cannot "upgrade".

And going to anything above XP would mean I could no longer play my old games, use my old programs, or other such stuff that actually needs XP.

Besides... I hate Windows 10. I tried it once on a friend's laptop, and it really sucked balls. I'll stick with XP instead. It is more user friendly.

So everyone who mentioned Win 10, stop. I'm not interested. And Rai, if you can't make a new FFDownloader that is XP compatible... how about adjusting 0.8.13 so that it can download again?


 

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I agree, but there may be hardware issues.? If they're running XP, it's likely the hardware dates back that far.

On 12/21/20 9:42 AM, Alex Cherry wrote:

I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time; almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.

Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server 2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle?to find applications that work.

I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in 2018.? Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of some kind.

Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable.? It has been so for a number of years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it.? I have a key for it if you need one.

Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field



 

A general response here .....

An awful lot of us have older kit that will not run Windows 10.

A heck of a lot of us detest Windows 10 with a vengeance.

One hell of a lot of us have no intention of wasting money replacing
a perfectly serviceable computer? in order to get the same performance
out of an OS we don't want.

Most of us are broke, and have more important things to spend our money
on - food, heat, shelter, for example.

Please, do not assume that we are Luddites?, Ignorant Peasants? or unaware of the
inevitable march of progress who need Techno Evangelists? to bring us into the
light. We have already Seen The Light? and found it wanting.

Rant Over.

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:?????
Academia:???


On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Harley McClure <harley@...> wrote:
I agree, but there may be hardware issues.? If they're running XP, it's likely the hardware dates back that far.

On 12/21/20 9:42 AM, Alex Cherry wrote:
I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time; almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.

Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server 2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle?to find applications that work.

I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in 2018.? Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of some kind.

Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable.? It has been so for a number of years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it.? I have a key for it if you need one.

Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field



 

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If you hate Windows 10 you’re really going to hate what’s coming.? Better start learning Linux now.?? Microsoft is going to combine Windows 10 and Office 365 to make Windows a monthly subscription model.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AlyssonR
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] new ffn problem. ATTN Rai

?

A general response here .....

An awful lot of us have older kit that will not run Windows 10.

?

A heck of a lot of us detest Windows 10 with a vengeance.

?

One hell of a lot of us have no intention of wasting money replacing

a perfectly serviceable computer? in order to get the same performance

out of an OS we don't want.

?

Most of us are broke, and have more important things to spend our money

on - food, heat, shelter, for example.

?

Please, do not assume that we are Luddites?, Ignorant Peasants? or unaware of the

inevitable march of progress who need Techno Evangelists? to bring us into the

light. We have already Seen The Light? and found it wanting.

?

Rant Over.

?

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:?????
Academia:???

?

?

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Harley McClure <harley@...> wrote:

I agree, but there may be hardware issues.? If they're running XP, it's likely the hardware dates back that far.

?

On 12/21/20 9:42 AM, Alex Cherry wrote:

I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time; almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.

?

Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server 2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle?to find applications that work.

?

I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in 2018.? Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of some kind.

?

Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable.? It has been so for a number of years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it.? I have a key for it if you need one.

?

Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer

Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field

?


 

Claps cheers leading a standing ovation!!!
Alysson for empress of the world!
ahem,
Kare

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, AlyssonR wrote:

A general response here .....

An awful lot of us have older kit that will not run Windows 10.

A heck of a lot of us *detest *Windows 10 with a vengeance.

One hell of a lot of us have no intention of wasting money replacing
a perfectly serviceable computer in order to get the same performance
out of an OS we don't want.

Most of us are broke, and have more important things to spend our money
on - food, heat, shelter, for example.

*Please*, *do not assume* that we are *Luddites*?, *Ignorant Peasants*? or
unaware of the
inevitable march of progress who need *Techno Evangelists*? to bring us
into the
light. We have already *Seen The Light*? and found it wanting.

*Rant Over.*

*Alysson Rowan*

LinkedIn:
Academia:


On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Harley McClure <harley@...> wrote:

I agree, but there may be hardware issues. If they're running XP, it's
likely the hardware dates back that far.

On 12/21/20 9:42 AM, Alex Cherry wrote:

I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time;
almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.

Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server
2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and
trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle to find applications
that work.

I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows
that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended
several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in
2018. Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against
new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will
Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of
some kind.

Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable. It has been so for a number of
years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it. I have a key
for it if you need one.

Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field








 

Windoesn't/Orifice as a monthly subscription thing.

S*d that for a game of soldiers.

Looks like my next upgrade is to Debian and WINE.

It also looks like I need to get on with migrating my collection DB to something that runs
either under WINE or native on Linux.

The real problem is the Activation Model used by Win 7. If someone could kill that so the
OS could be migrated to a different system, then I'd pay money for that hax (maybe).

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:?????
Academia:???


On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 19:25, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...> wrote:
Claps cheers leading a standing ovation!!!
Alysson for empress of the world!
ahem,
Kare



On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, AlyssonR wrote:

> A general response here .....
>
> An awful lot of us have older kit that will not run Windows 10.
>
> A heck of a lot of us *detest *Windows 10 with a vengeance.
>
> One hell of a lot of us have no intention of wasting money replacing
> a perfectly serviceable computer? in order to get the same performance
> out of an OS we don't want.
>
> Most of us are broke, and have more important things to spend our money
> on - food, heat, shelter, for example.
>
> *Please*, *do not assume* that we are *Luddites*?, *Ignorant Peasants*? or
> unaware of the
> inevitable march of progress who need *Techno Evangelists*? to bring us
> into the
> light. We have already *Seen The Light*? and found it wanting.
>
> *Rant Over.*
>
> *Alysson Rowan*
>
> LinkedIn:? ? ?
> Academia:? ?
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Harley McClure <harley@...> wrote:
>
>> I agree, but there may be hardware issues.? If they're running XP, it's
>> likely the hardware dates back that far.
>>
>> On 12/21/20 9:42 AM, Alex Cherry wrote:
>>
>> I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time;
>> almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.
>>
>> Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server
>> 2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and
>> trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle to find applications
>> that work.
>>
>> I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows
>> that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended
>> several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in
>> 2018.? Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against
>> new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will
>> Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of
>> some kind.
>>
>> Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable.? It has been so for a number of
>> years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it.? I have a key
>> for it if you need one.
>>
>> Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
>> Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>






 

@AlyssonR

Preach it sister!^_^

Preach it, yeah!^_^

Windows 10 is garbage, and XP was the last good OS that Microsoft ever made!^_^


 

The Windows 7 Activation system was worked around a long time ago, about as long as Windows 7 itself has been around. And the various tools involved are free, fairly simple, and do not modify Windows itself.

Still, not something to be discussed any further on list.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:34 PM AlyssonR <alyssonrowan@...> wrote:
Windoesn't/Orifice as a monthly subscription thing.

S*d that for a game of soldiers.

Looks like my next upgrade is to Debian and WINE.

It also looks like I need to get on with migrating my collection DB to something that runs
either under WINE or native on Linux.

The real problem is the Activation Model used by Win 7. If someone could kill that so the
OS could be migrated to a different system, then I'd pay money for that hax (maybe).

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:?????
Academia:???


On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 19:25, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...> wrote:
Claps cheers leading a standing ovation!!!
Alysson for empress of the world!
ahem,
Kare



On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, AlyssonR wrote:

> A general response here .....
>
> An awful lot of us have older kit that will not run Windows 10.
>
> A heck of a lot of us *detest *Windows 10 with a vengeance.
>
> One hell of a lot of us have no intention of wasting money replacing
> a perfectly serviceable computer? in order to get the same performance
> out of an OS we don't want.
>
> Most of us are broke, and have more important things to spend our money
> on - food, heat, shelter, for example.
>
> *Please*, *do not assume* that we are *Luddites*?, *Ignorant Peasants*? or
> unaware of the
> inevitable march of progress who need *Techno Evangelists*? to bring us
> into the
> light. We have already *Seen The Light*? and found it wanting.
>
> *Rant Over.*
>
> *Alysson Rowan*
>
> LinkedIn:? ? ?
> Academia:? ?
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Harley McClure <harley@...> wrote:
>
>> I agree, but there may be hardware issues.? If they're running XP, it's
>> likely the hardware dates back that far.
>>
>> On 12/21/20 9:42 AM, Alex Cherry wrote:
>>
>> I'd strongly recommend against running a 32bit OS at this point in time;
>> almost all modern applications are deployed with 64-bit binaries only.
>>
>> Understand that the transition to 64-bit was made back during the Server
>> 2003 days; the world's been on 64-bit for more than fifteen years now, and
>> trying to run a 32bit OS will cause you to struggle to find applications
>> that work.
>>
>> I'd also strongly recommend against running any desktop version of Windows
>> that is NOT Windows 10 - Windows 7 sunset in January 2020 (it was extended
>> several years from the original EOL) and Windows 8.1 reached end of life in
>> 2018.? Updates for them stopped being written back then, so patches against
>> new vulnerabilities and to solve problems have permanently ceased, nor will
>> Microsoft do more than 'best effort' tech support if you have a problem of
>> some kind.
>>
>> Windows 10 is fast, stable, and reliable.? It has been so for a number of
>> years now, and there's no reason not to move forward with it.? I have a key
>> for it if you need one.
>>
>> Alex, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
>> Sr. Systems Engineer with 22 years of experience in the field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>






 

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THAT'S going to go over like a wet fart, and will most likely kill the company. People will stay with what works and flip them off... or migrate to a non-monthly OS and flip them off. Country's in a recession due to the pandemic, and no one is going to want to fork out the money for that nonsense.

We'll know if Microsoft is on its last legs, if they go to a Micro-Transaction structure.

Ta!
? ~Jonn


On 12/21/2020 1:19 PM, markd0713 wrote:

If you hate Windows 10 you’re really going to hate what’s coming.? Better start learning Linux now.?? Microsoft is going to combine Windows 10 and Office 365 to make Windows a monthly subscription model.


 

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Pandemic aside, no one's going to want to pay for it -- especially as they essentially gave it away for free at launch.

Mike

Decaffeinated coffee is like a hooker who only wants to cuddle.

On 12/21/20 3:03 PM, Jonn Wolfe wrote:
THAT'S going to go over like a wet fart, and will most likely kill the company. People will stay with what works and flip them off... or migrate to a non-monthly OS and flip them off. Country's in a recession due to the pandemic, and no one is going to want to fork out the money for that nonsense.

We'll know if Microsoft is on its last legs, if they go to a Micro-Transaction structure.

Ta!
? ~Jonn


On 12/21/2020 1:19 PM, markd0713 wrote:
If you hate Windows 10 you’re really going to hate what’s coming.? Better start learning Linux now.?? Microsoft is going to combine Windows 10 and Office 365 to make Windows a monthly subscription model.




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I don't think the governments of the world will let them get away with that.
If they try to do it, I can see a lot of governments either suing or banning them from import.

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Sent: Tuesday, 22 December 2020 10:18
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Pandemic aside, no one's going to want to pay for it -- especially as they essentially gave it away for free at launch.

Mike

Decaffeinated coffee is like a hooker who only wants to cuddle.

On 12/21/20 3:03 PM, Jonn Wolfe wrote:
THAT'S going to go over like a wet fart, and will most likely kill the company. People will stay with what works and flip them off... or migrate to a non-monthly OS and flip them off. Country's in a recession due to the pandemic, and no one is going to want to fork out the money for that nonsense.

We'll know if Microsoft is on its last legs, if they go to a Micro-Transaction structure.

Ta!
? ~Jonn


On 12/21/2020 1:19 PM, markd0713 wrote:
If you hate Windows 10 you’re really going to hate what’s coming.? Better start learning Linux now.?? Microsoft is going to combine Windows 10 and Office 365 to make Windows a monthly subscription model.




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I want a mug with your tagline!

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, grenouille7777 wrote:

Pandemic aside, no one's going to want to pay for it -- especially as they essentially gave it away for free at launch.

Mike

Decaffeinated coffee is like a hooker who only wants to cuddle.

On 12/21/20 3:03 PM, Jonn Wolfe wrote:
THAT'S going to go over like a wet fart, and will most likely kill the
company. People will stay with what works and flip them off... or migrate
to a non-monthly OS and flip them off. Country's in a recession due to the
pandemic, and no one is going to want to fork out the money for that
nonsense.

We'll know if Microsoft is on its last legs, if they go to a
Micro-Transaction structure.

Ta!
/~Jonn/

On 12/21/2020 1:19 PM, markd0713 wrote:
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XP is great, but I prefer 7. Mind you, I only just managed to get a hold of an
XP-64 install for one of my XP machines. Now it hums along, and handles
the extra RAM.

Having said that, I have seen XP with some of the useful bits of 7 grafted in.

Alysson Rowan

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 01:02, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...> wrote:
Mike,
I want a mug with your tagline!



On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, grenouille7777 wrote:

> Pandemic aside, no one's going to want to pay for it -- especially as they
> essentially gave it away for free at launch.
>
> Mike
>
> Decaffeinated coffee is like a hooker who only wants to cuddle.
>
> On 12/21/20 3:03 PM, Jonn Wolfe wrote:
>>? THAT'S going to go over like a wet fart, and will most likely kill the
>>? company. People will stay with what works and flip them off... or migrate
>>? to a non-monthly OS and flip them off. Country's in a recession due to the
>>? pandemic, and no one is going to want to fork out the money for that
>>? nonsense.
>>
>>? We'll know if Microsoft is on its last legs, if they go to a
>>? Micro-Transaction structure.
>>
>>? Ta!
>>? /~Jonn/
>>
>>
>>? On 12/21/2020 1:19 PM, markd0713 wrote:
>> >? If you hate Windows 10 you’re really going to hate what’s coming.?
>> >? Better start learning Linux now.?? Microsoft is going to combine
>> >? Windows 10 and Office 365 to make Windows a monthly subscription model.
>>
>>
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 17:18 grenouille7777 <grenouille7777@...> wrote:

Decaffeinated coffee is like a hooker who only wants to cuddle.

You do know, I hope, that you can in fact hire professional cuddlers.