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Information needed please.


 

OK I'm tossing in the towel here. I have searched high and low on the
net trying to find out informaiton about the British Military.
Specifically the army, unit designations etc.

If I were working with the american military it would be a lot easier,
but I couldn't find enough information to work with here. I am far
more familar with my own country's military than I am with Britain's.

So if someone can answer these questions I would appreciate it.

Does the UK have units in division sizes, or corp sized (a corp
comprises mutliple divisions) And if so, what do they call them? For
example here in the US, there are divisions like 101st Airborne
(Screaming Eagles), 7th Cavalery (air Mobile infantry), 5th Armored
(Heavy Tank Division)

I know there are unit like the Welsh Guards but I have no clue how big
that outfit is.

I've searched the MOD website for information, but came up empty handed.

I have to wonder if the lack of information is part of the post 911
security some countries have put into place.

ANd if that is the case I can assure you, I am an author of Fan Fic,
not a terrorist... ok I am a barbarian, but not a terrorist. MORE
PILLAGING!!!

- bob


ausfinbar
 

As I understand it.

england runs Regimental Units, Which are the same size as the US
Units. With 2-3 British units to a division so they are about half the
size of US divisional sizes.

They dont designate them like the US does, some units are 'named'
,these are Colour Units, eg: queens guard, Black Watch, SAS, etc etc,
but there are also just '1st Tank Regiment' and so on.
This is all done on the Regimental designation not Division as the
Brits dont seem to believe in Division size deployment in formation
rather regimental.

Cheers

Finbar


 

snip
ANd if that is the case I can assure you, I am an author of Fan Fic,
not a terrorist... ok I am a barbarian, but not a terrorist. MORE
PILLAGING!!!

- bob
So you are a member of the second boat
dave


Viking chief to Viking Warriors off shore the Scotish coast in 3 boats
He say to them.,.
The first boat will do the burning, the second boat will do the pillaging and robbing and the third...


And a collective groan came from the 3rd boat and a small voice says...

Not Rapine again!


~Calanor~
 

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The first two are helpful... the third.. but they still weren't enough.. so I winged it..on a WIP? I have on the back burner for now.. while I finish a couple others...and help beta for someone..
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I hope it helps... if not maybe put you on the right track..

----- Original Message -----
From: bobmi357
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:40 AM
Subject: [snorkack] Information needed please.

OK I'm tossing in the towel here. I have searched high and low on the
net trying to find out informaiton about the British Military.
Specifically the army, unit designations etc.

If I were working with the american military it would be a lot easier,
but I couldn't find enough information to work with here. I am far
more familar with my own country's military than I am with Britain's.

So if someone can answer these questions I would appreciate it.

Does the UK have units in division sizes, or corp sized (a corp
comprises mutliple divisions) And if so, what do they call them? For
example here in the US, there are divisions like 101st Airborne
(Screaming Eagles), 7th Cavalery (air Mobile infantry), 5th Armored
(Heavy Tank Division)

I know there are unit like the Welsh Guards but I have no clue how big
that outfit is.

I've searched the MOD website for information, but came up empty handed.

I have to wonder if the lack of information is part of the post 911
security some countries have put into place.

ANd if that is the case I can assure you, I am an author of Fan Fic,
not a terrorist... ok I am a barbarian, but not a terrorist. MORE
PILLAGING!!!

- bob





 

According to army.mod.uk and nationmaster.com "its military structure
it is divided into corps (administrative groupings by common
function), and divisions and brigades (large formations, somewhat
fluid in nature)"
It is made up of five divisions (six if you include HQ Northern
Ireland) each one comprising 3-6 brigades. Specialist units include
15(UK)Psychological Operations Group and the Special Forces. In terms
of special forces the British have the SAS (Special Air Service),
the SBS (Special Boat Service), 16 AAB (Air Assault Brigade,
Pathfinder Platoon, the Parachute Regiment, and the No.47 Squadron
(Special Forces flight) RAF. The SAS also serves as an anti Terrorism
unit along with the SO19 Firearms unit of the Metropolitan Police. The
unit nearest to Hogwarts would probably be the 52nd infantry brigade,
currently based in Edinburgh Castle.

Hope this helps!

Balint D. Szoke

Sources:
Nationmaster Encyclopedia


The British Army Website:


British Ministry of Defence website:


The Encyclopedia of the worlds special forces by Mike Ryan, Chris Man,
and Alexander Stillwell copyright 2003.

--- In snorkack@..., "bobmi357" <submitaccount@y...> wrote:
OK I'm tossing in the towel here. I have searched high and low on the
net trying to find out informaiton about the British Military.
Specifically the army, unit designations etc.

If I were working with the american military it would be a lot easier,
but I couldn't find enough information to work with here. I am far
more familar with my own country's military than I am with Britain's.

So if someone can answer these questions I would appreciate it.

Does the UK have units in division sizes, or corp sized (a corp
comprises mutliple divisions) And if so, what do they call them? For
example here in the US, there are divisions like 101st Airborne
(Screaming Eagles), 7th Cavalery (air Mobile infantry), 5th Armored
(Heavy Tank Division)

I know there are unit like the Welsh Guards but I have no clue how big
that outfit is.

I've searched the MOD website for information, but came up empty handed.

I have to wonder if the lack of information is part of the post 911
security some countries have put into place.

ANd if that is the case I can assure you, I am an author of Fan Fic,
not a terrorist... ok I am a barbarian, but not a terrorist. MORE
PILLAGING!!!

- bob


 

--- In snorkack@..., "magyareagle" <magyareagle@y...> wrote:
According to army.mod.uk and nationmaster.com "its military structure
it is divided into corps (administrative groupings by common
function), and divisions and brigades (large formations, somewhat
fluid in nature)"
It is made up of five divisions (six if you include HQ Northern
Ireland) each one comprising 3-6 brigades. Specialist units include
15(UK)Psychological Operations Group and the Special Forces. In terms
of special forces the British have the SAS (Special Air Service),
the SBS (Special Boat Service), 16 AAB (Air Assault Brigade,
Pathfinder Platoon, the Parachute Regiment, and the No.47 Squadron
(Special Forces flight) RAF. The SAS also serves as an anti Terrorism
unit along with the SO19 Firearms unit of the Metropolitan Police. The
unit nearest to Hogwarts would probably be the 52nd infantry brigade,
currently based in Edinburgh Castle.

Hope this helps!

Balint D. Szoke
After I posted that request I stumbled onto the wikapedia site which
did a decent job of detailing the organizational structure.

There are two ready divisions, 1st armored and 2nd mechanized infantry
which have core regiments, but can be augmented by adding additional
regiments under the divisional commander. It sounds pretty unwieldy to
me, but if it works for them, who am I to tell them they are wrong.

The corp level units exist mostly on paper only. Corps are constructed
as needed, built around an administrative regiment. Unlike the US, the
UK has no standing corps, they have the structure of one and it can be
activated in times of war, but in peace its mostly a toothless entity.

This is all assuming that the wikapedia information is correct.

I believe I have enough information to work with now. And I do
appreciate everyone that replied. Finally, as an aside to whomever
coded the MOD website. GET A CLUE! Just trying to find out basic
information is like pulling teeth from a jellyfish! :)

- Bob


 

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As a Viking
You must learn
First you pillage
THEN you burn.
?
Keith
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [snorkack] Information needed please.

>snip
>ANd if that is the case I can assure you, I am an author of Fan Fic,
>not a terrorist... ok I am a barbarian, but not a terrorist. MORE
>PILLAGING!!!
>
>? - bob
So you are a member of the second boat
dave


Viking chief to Viking Warriors off shore the Scotish coast in 3 boats
He say to them.,.
The first boat will do the burning, the second boat will do the
pillaging and robbing and the third...


And a collective groan came from the 3rd boat and a small voice says...

Not Rapine again!


ausfinbar
 

--- In snorkack@..., "Keith McComb" <kinsfire@g...> wrote:
As a Viking
You must learn
First you pillage
THEN you burn.
Dont forget, Rape, THEN Pillage, THEN burn

The last thing you want is to make a mistake and end up being caught
in a compromising position with a burning Vase or some such

Cheers

Finbar


 

just a quick messeage to say that the Parachute Regiment in britan is
more likely known as the para's and most here consider them insane and
only a step below an SAS soldier. the SAS is a unit that works
undercover with identification unkown and in iraq stopped many
journalist from taking there picture by hiding there faces. most
regemints in the british army have there own regimental colors(flag).

hope this helps


 

--- In snorkack@..., "ausfinbar" <diepunyhumans@h...> wrote:
--- In snorkack@..., "Keith McComb" <kinsfire@g...> wrote:
As a Viking,
You must learn
First you pillage
THEN you burn.
Dont forget, Rape, THEN Pillage, THEN burn
The last thing you want is to make a mistake and end up being caught
in a compromising position with a burning Vase or some such. <

The problem is that No. 3 Longship is always late and the troops suffer
from chronic exhaustion, so this keeps happening... <eg>

Phil


nrnwood
 

I may be able to help

The UK military is a somewhat flexiable organisation.

Basic structure

Sections (Sect) - 4 sects =

Platoons (Plt) - 4 Plt =

Company (Coy) - normal;y 3 "rifle" coys per Bn, 1 Heavt Weapons,
Headquarter and Quartermaters (Supply) =

Battalion (Bns) - The basic unit, Size will vary with unit type and
role. ie Infantry in a light role (ie non-mechanised) will be around
650 men. In a Mechanised role is goes upto 700+ as it get additional
men to man the MCV's

Regiment - has TWO meanings - ne is historical and is
a "administrative) and refers to the historical structurte of
multiple Bns with one for foreign service and one acting as the
depot and home service Bns.

The second is that Cavalry and Tank Bbs are called Regiments and
have 3-4 "Sabre" Suadrons which are the fighting elements and
Headquarters and Support Squadrons.

Brigade = 2-4 Bns. Again depends on role. A Mech Bridage will be
Infantry Heavy (2 x Infantry Bns, 1 x Tank Regt); Tank Heavy (1 x
Infantry Bns, 2 x Tank Regt); Square (2 x Infantry Bns, 2 x Tank
Regt); each Brigade will also have Headquarters, Supply and
Artillery
Units attached to it

2 - 3 Brigades = Division

The Special Forces are a seperate organisation as are the Royal
Marines

Is this what you were after?


If I can be of any further help - please email me directly

Regards

Nigel