The original reason I started using Linux was a computer that got it's
OS borked and I didn't have the money to replace it. Win 11 is a good
example, purposely locking out old hardware unnecessarily, because their
main customer is the computer manufacturers not the users.

On 4/25/22 03:40, SlickRCBD wrote:
> The normal response to saying you have an older edition of Windows is
> "That's not safe! You should stop using that old thing and upgrade to
> the latest version that gets security patches. If you can't upgrade
> Windows, it's time to get a new computer."
> That always irritates me, but it's the stock response. Computers are
> one of the few durable goods where you can't just keep using the thing
> for years but are forced to continue to buy new models for dubious
> reasons, mostly to line the pockets of Microsoft and the computer
> manufacturers.
>
> I say this because Linux users can get far more use out of the same
> hardware.
> On 4/24/2022 7:45 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> the more those behind tamper with what they consider
>> safe, the more difficult it can be to reach content.? Especially if
>> you are atypical, in say command line Linux, using older editions of
>> windows, are from? a different part of the world, in a mobile
>> platform that is neither apple or android etc.
>> ??sometimes I? can edit a link to and
>> reach the content.? sometimes even google searches done in basic html
>> will provide links that work when links
>> fail.
>> Same can be said for .
>> Which for me got broken again recently.
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Every time I think I've found the level of stupid, there's a sharp drop.

On 4/25/22 06:16, AlyssonR wrote:

Still on Windows 7.

I even installed XP on a machine because M$ decided that no one was to use a tape drive any more

from Win 7 and upward. They actually installed tape blocking rather than just removing the support modules.

Ba$tard$.

Cheers, Alysson

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:??????

Academia:???

Project Blog:

YouTube:??????

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 at 12:07, John Povenmire via <not.my_email=[email protected]> wrote:

The original reason I started using Linux was a computer that got it's
OS borked and I didn't have the money to replace it. Win 11 is a good
example, purposely locking out old hardware unnecessarily, because their
main customer is the computer manufacturers not the users.

On 4/25/22 03:40, SlickRCBD wrote:
> The normal response to saying you have an older edition of Windows is
> "That's not safe! You should stop using that old thing and upgrade to
> the latest version that gets security patches. If you can't upgrade
> Windows, it's time to get a new computer."
> That always irritates me, but it's the stock response. Computers are
> one of the few durable goods where you can't just keep using the thing
> for years but are forced to continue to buy new models for dubious
> reasons, mostly to line the pockets of Microsoft and the computer
> manufacturers.
>
> I say this because Linux users can get far more use out of the same
> hardware.
> On 4/24/2022 7:45 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> the more those behind tamper with what they consider
>> safe, the more difficult it can be to reach content.? Especially if
>> you are atypical, in say command line Linux, using older editions of
>> windows, are from? a different part of the world, in a mobile
>> platform that is neither apple or android etc.
>> ??sometimes I? can edit a link to and
>> reach the content.? sometimes even google searches done in basic html
>> will provide links that work when links
>> fail.
>> Same can be said for .
>> Which for me got broken again recently.
>>
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They are pushing for storage In The Cloud? - no matter that research departments *cough* NASA *cough*

have terabytes of strteamed data on magtape, and that M$ have essentially told the world that those tapes?

are no longer permitted.

All of the research telemetry from naval vessels, military aircraft and weapons tests are on tape - and there is?

no way on God's Green Earth? that any government is going to put classified data into the cloud - let alone

restricted and secret data. Just as well that there is the *nix option (that's what most of the later systems use,

before that, it would have been a mixture of proprietary OSs.)

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:??????

Academia:???

Project Blog:

YouTube:??????

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 at 12:35, John Povenmire via <not.my_email=[email protected]> wrote:

Every time I think I've found the level of stupid, there's a sharp drop.

On 4/25/22 06:16, AlyssonR wrote:

Still on Windows 7.

I even installed XP on a machine because M$ decided that no one was to use a tape drive any more

from Win 7 and upward. They actually installed tape blocking rather than just removing the support modules.

Ba$tard$.

Cheers, Alysson

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:??????

Academia:???

Project Blog:

YouTube:??????

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 at 12:07, John Povenmire via <not.my_email=[email protected]> wrote:

The original reason I started using Linux was a computer that got it's
OS borked and I didn't have the money to replace it. Win 11 is a good
example, purposely locking out old hardware unnecessarily, because their
main customer is the computer manufacturers not the users.

On 4/25/22 03:40, SlickRCBD wrote:
> The normal response to saying you have an older edition of Windows is
> "That's not safe! You should stop using that old thing and upgrade to
> the latest version that gets security patches. If you can't upgrade
> Windows, it's time to get a new computer."
> That always irritates me, but it's the stock response. Computers are
> one of the few durable goods where you can't just keep using the thing
> for years but are forced to continue to buy new models for dubious
> reasons, mostly to line the pockets of Microsoft and the computer
> manufacturers.
>
> I say this because Linux users can get far more use out of the same
> hardware.
> On 4/24/2022 7:45 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> the more those behind tamper with what they consider
>> safe, the more difficult it can be to reach content.? Especially if
>> you are atypical, in say command line Linux, using older editions of
>> windows, are from? a different part of the world, in a mobile
>> platform that is neither apple or android etc.
>> ??sometimes I? can edit a link to and
>> reach the content.? sometimes even google searches done in basic html
>> will provide links that work when links
>> fail.
>> Same can be said for .
>> Which for me got broken again recently.
>>
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is this it

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of heelfree via <heelfree=[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 9:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Help with finding a Fic #ficsearch

?

Good news - I found it. I knew I had read it relatively recently but just couldn't find it in my 'haveread' list. I tried again today and there it was, back in November of last year.

Bad news - the author deleted it, although s/he promises to reload it (sometime).

FUTURE OF RUIN?by Harkon / DEADendDREAMER

Harry Potter has been reincarnated more times than he can count, always to stop a mad man. Now, the world has been ravaged by nuclear war, and nothing will ever be as it once was.

FUTURE OF CHANGE?by Harkon

?

Surviving the death of one world wasn't as impossible as they thought, living on the new one might be. Sequel to Future of Ruin

More good news - If you 'Reply to Sender' with your email address I'll send you a PDF.

Anybody know of a downloader for ?? I searched around and none of them seem to support it.? Otherwise, if anyone has HTML, epub, or mobi versions of the 2 stories I would appreciate it.

Riothamus

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 7:35 PM indian_sqaw <indian_sqaw@...> wrote:

is this it

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of heelfree via <heelfree=[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 9:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Help with finding a Fic #ficsearch

?

Good news - I found it. I knew I had read it relatively recently but just couldn't find it in my 'haveread' list. I tried again today and there it was, back in November of last year.

Bad news - the author deleted it, although s/he promises to reload it (sometime).

FUTURE OF RUIN?by Harkon / DEADendDREAMER

Harry Potter has been reincarnated more times than he can count, always to stop a mad man. Now, the world has been ravaged by nuclear war, and nothing will ever be as it once was.

FUTURE OF CHANGE?by Harkon

?

Surviving the death of one world wasn't as impossible as they thought, living on the new one might be. Sequel to Future of Ruin

More good news - If you 'Reply to Sender' with your email address I'll send you a PDF.

John, you're a man after my own heart. I've done that for years (yard sales, too). Even the two brand-new laptops I've bought in the last couple of years only had Windows on them long enough to register them with the manufacturers (Dell and Lenovo) for warranty purposes. Afterwards, the drives were immediately low-level formatted and Arch Linux was installed. The desktops I've had -- new or used -- have always been frankensteins.

As far as "The Cloud"? I have three Debian servers, any one of which is capable of acting as a private cloud server should I decide I need one. As I haven't done that yet, I guess I don't. I even turn Google Sync off on my phone as soon as I buy one -- followed by geo-location services.

Mike

Decaffeinated coffee is like a hooker who only wants to cuddle.

On 4/25/22 10:21, John Braun wrote:

I agree with the sentiments expressed by this group.? Furthermore when updating to a new computer, the choices we had before such as deciding whether to update or not, how to store on our own computers, deciding how to personalize our programs we use and many, many other choices we had are disappearing.? I find it extremely aggravating that computer manufacturers are deciding what we can choose and eliminating our other choices.?

I find myself in pawn shops buying older computers (for pennies) that people have gotten rid of, using Windows 7 and other older programs and working around the newer machines so I can retain my basic rights of what and how - will be on my own d**n computer.? Yeah, it takes extra effort but I am much happier with my electronic life!

Lastly, The Cloud.? You have to be out of your cotton picking small minds to use that.? Your own external storage drives are all `The Cloud' 99% of us will ever need and 100% safer!

Thank you all for letting me express my feelings, sometimes it is almost too much to bear it alone!? John

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 8:22 AM Riothamus Pendragon <riothamus@...> wrote:

Anybody know of a downloader for ?? I searched around and none of them seem to support it.? Otherwise, if anyone has HTML, epub, or mobi versions of the 2 stories I would appreciate it.

Riothamus

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 7:35 PM indian_sqaw <indian_sqaw@...> wrote:

is this it

?&

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of heelfree via <heelfree=[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 9:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Help with finding a Fic #ficsearch

?

Good news - I found it. I knew I had read it relatively recently but just couldn't find it in my 'haveread' list. I tried again today and there it was, back in November of last year.

Bad news - the author deleted it, although s/he promises to reload it (sometime).

FUTURE OF RUIN?by Harkon / DEADendDREAMER

Harry Potter has been reincarnated more times than he can count, always to stop a mad man. Now, the world has been ravaged by nuclear war, and nothing will ever be as it once was.

FUTURE OF CHANGE?by Harkon

?

Surviving the death of one world wasn't as impossible as they thought, living on the new one might be. Sequel to Future of Ruin

More good news - If you 'Reply to Sender' with your email address I'll send you a PDF.