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Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Just a thought ....

AI is a new enough technology that any robotic intelligence is going to be?
under the age of consent.

As to aliens .... well, that's just racial bias, innit.


On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 04:51, Glenn Adams via <rorgana01=[email protected]> wrote:
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" We are currently transitioning domain register (root-dns) services from
to different provider within the next few hours. There are several domains related to and and it will take us a few days to transfer and validate."
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, again without communication, re-instated root-dns functionally for . That's good, at least we think so. Here is the kicker. Just got another "Urgent" notification from childabuse@... for a fictional story where the main characters is a 17 year old (male) and a female animal-tronic robot. The story is above the level we allow for Fiction M so we will take it down but child abuse? For those writing robot or alien love stories, beware of products from
. At this point, we believe everything at
"abuse" is fully AI automated with zero human verification and anyone can get domain banned for invalid reasons, with no verification of any kind. Either that or their AI system is not yet trained to handle content like robots, aliens, wizards, magic, or anything that is, fictional/imaginary. 17 year old love story with a Martian squirrel that turned out to be a fem-bot spy from Jupiter? Child ab.... We will be moving to another domain host provider soon and you might also reconsider if you host any fiction related material with any domain features linked to
as their ai is obvious grounded in Earth (non-fiction) only training-dataset."

On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 03:30, david richfield via <david.richfield=[email protected]> wrote:
is back online


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juli 2024 00:29
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Snorkack] Did go bye-bye?
?
Oh..thank you for sharing the entire post.
The journalist in me would be asking ffn staff why, if they removed items
on? 10 July, they waited until 12 July to document that action with
godaddy?
Of course I would? at the same time ask godaddy why a link was included
that?? has no child abuse content in it as well though.



On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, Timothy Wynn via wrote:

> Here is the [official word from FictionPress on X/Twitter][1]:
>
>> is serving millions of active readers/authors world-wide and a fictional site hosting stories and poetry. We have a very strict policy on? sexual content and sexual content related to child abuse. On July 12th, @GoDaddy deactivated dns-resolution for our domain due to a dozen links of fictional content they deemed broke their "ChildAbuse" policy. Godaddy sent the dozen links to us on July 9th.
>>
>> Our human staff between July 10th 6PM-10PM PST time validated every link and removed the content that broke our policies regarding sexual abuse content. The list even contained a link that contained no sexual abuse of any kind. That why we human verify every abuse report.? We officially replied to Godaddy on July 12th even though content was removed on July 10th.
>>
>> Yet on July 12th, our domain was disconnected from the dns eco-system, with zero notification/communication, causing 100% operational disconnection including email, website, app login, etc.
>>
>> Our staff called in to Godaddy on July 12th and was assured 24 hour reply. It has been more than 24 hours and we are still getting no response.? @Godaddy, please expediate the review process so we can get dns back again. Again, we received zero communication on the dns deactivation and our communication is limited to childabuse@... email which we have replied to on July 12th, and July 13th via multiple emails.
>>
>> To our users, please be patient as we work hard to get this resolved but as detailed above, this is entirely out of our control at the moment.
>>
>> If you personally know anyone at @Godaddy, please help us and let them know to expediate this matter and establish bi-directional contact with us.
>>
>> @GoDaddy @GoDaddyHelp @GoDaddyPro
>
> Timothy
>
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Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

¡¤
8,404
Views


" We are currently transitioning domain register (root-dns) services from
to different provider within the next few hours. There are several domains related to and and it will take us a few days to transfer and validate."
¡¤
11.9K
Views
"
, again without communication, re-instated root-dns functionally for . That's good, at least we think so. Here is the kicker. Just got another "Urgent" notification from childabuse@... for a fictional story where the main characters is a 17 year old (male) and a female animal-tronic robot. The story is above the level we allow for Fiction M so we will take it down but child abuse? For those writing robot or alien love stories, beware of products from
. At this point, we believe everything at
"abuse" is fully AI automated with zero human verification and anyone can get domain banned for invalid reasons, with no verification of any kind. Either that or their AI system is not yet trained to handle content like robots, aliens, wizards, magic, or anything that is, fictional/imaginary. 17 year old love story with a Martian squirrel that turned out to be a fem-bot spy from Jupiter? Child ab.... We will be moving to another domain host provider soon and you might also reconsider if you host any fiction related material with any domain features linked to
as their ai is obvious grounded in Earth (non-fiction) only training-dataset."


On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 03:30, david richfield via <david.richfield=[email protected]> wrote:
is back online


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juli 2024 00:29
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Snorkack] Did go bye-bye?
?
Oh..thank you for sharing the entire post.
The journalist in me would be asking ffn staff why, if they removed items
on? 10 July, they waited until 12 July to document that action with
godaddy?
Of course I would? at the same time ask godaddy why a link was included
that?? has no child abuse content in it as well though.



On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, Timothy Wynn via wrote:

> Here is the [official word from FictionPress on X/Twitter][1]:
>
>> is serving millions of active readers/authors world-wide and a fictional site hosting stories and poetry. We have a very strict policy on? sexual content and sexual content related to child abuse. On July 12th, @GoDaddy deactivated dns-resolution for our domain due to a dozen links of fictional content they deemed broke their "ChildAbuse" policy. Godaddy sent the dozen links to us on July 9th.
>>
>> Our human staff between July 10th 6PM-10PM PST time validated every link and removed the content that broke our policies regarding sexual abuse content. The list even contained a link that contained no sexual abuse of any kind. That why we human verify every abuse report.? We officially replied to Godaddy on July 12th even though content was removed on July 10th.
>>
>> Yet on July 12th, our domain was disconnected from the dns eco-system, with zero notification/communication, causing 100% operational disconnection including email, website, app login, etc.
>>
>> Our staff called in to Godaddy on July 12th and was assured 24 hour reply. It has been more than 24 hours and we are still getting no response.? @Godaddy, please expediate the review process so we can get dns back again. Again, we received zero communication on the dns deactivation and our communication is limited to childabuse@... email which we have replied to on July 12th, and July 13th via multiple emails.
>>
>> To our users, please be patient as we work hard to get this resolved but as detailed above, this is entirely out of our control at the moment.
>>
>> If you personally know anyone at @Godaddy, please help us and let them know to expediate this matter and establish bi-directional contact with us.
>>
>> @GoDaddy @GoDaddyHelp @GoDaddyPro
>
> Timothy
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Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

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is back online


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juli 2024 00:29
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?
?
Oh..thank you for sharing the entire post.
The journalist in me would be asking ffn staff why, if they removed items
on? 10 July, they waited until 12 July to document that action with
godaddy?
Of course I would? at the same time ask godaddy why a link was included
that?? has no child abuse content in it as well though.



On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, Timothy Wynn via groups.io wrote:

> Here is the [official word from FictionPress on X/Twitter][1]:
>
>> is serving millions of active readers/authors world-wide and a fictional site hosting stories and poetry. We have a very strict policy on? sexual content and sexual content related to child abuse. On July 12th, @GoDaddy deactivated dns-resolution for our domain due to a dozen links of fictional content they deemed broke their "ChildAbuse" policy. Godaddy sent the dozen links to us on July 9th.
>>
>> Our human staff between July 10th 6PM-10PM PST time validated every link and removed the content that broke our policies regarding sexual abuse content. The list even contained a link that contained no sexual abuse of any kind. That why we human verify every abuse report.? We officially replied to Godaddy on July 12th even though content was removed on July 10th.
>>
>> Yet on July 12th, our domain was disconnected from the dns eco-system, with zero notification/communication, causing 100% operational disconnection including email, website, app login, etc.
>>
>> Our staff called in to Godaddy on July 12th and was assured 24 hour reply. It has been more than 24 hours and we are still getting no response.? @Godaddy, please expediate the review process so we can get dns back again. Again, we received zero communication on the dns deactivation and our communication is limited to childabuse@... email which we have replied to on July 12th, and July 13th via multiple emails.
>>
>> To our users, please be patient as we work hard to get this resolved but as detailed above, this is entirely out of our control at the moment.
>>
>> If you personally know anyone at @Godaddy, please help us and let them know to expediate this matter and establish bi-directional contact with us.
>>
>> @GoDaddy @GoDaddyHelp @GoDaddyPro
>
> Timothy
>
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Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Hey folks,?

Now that FF.net is back up, if you implemented the HOSTS file fix, I recommend that you go and either remove the entry that you added or you comment it out (for Windows, at a # symbol to the front of the line).

That's because your computer will always use the HOSTS entry while it's there and not try to look up the address, and those addresses can change.? So if you leave the HOSTS entry in place, and FF.net changes IPs for any reason, you'll be broken and no one else will.? And by then, you'll have forgotten that you have that entry present!

Alex


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

On 7/13/2024 6:57 PM, Karen Lewellen via groups.io wrote:
hmm.
Perhaps it is me, but does not all this feel like you are opening the door for? hacking at their end again?
FFN reports dns address issues..which in and of itself is concerning.
All of these surprise dns options exist that bypass what should not be easily bypassed.
It just feels odd.
For me personally main site has been running cloudflare stories for a few years now, but still.
What happens once the real dns door is restored?
will not you look like a possible threat using this alternative?
Just wondering of course.
Kare
The things involving hosts files can only be used for hacking if the set of numbers (the IP address) you are manually adding to the hosts file lead to something other than fanfiction.net. In which case it's the source of those numbers that is at fault (or a man-in-the-middle on the mailing list).

The hosts file method predates the DNS system, and is designed to override DNS. Technically it doesn't override it, when you enter in something www.fanfiction.net, the system first checks the hosts file, and if it isn't present in the hosts file, it queries the DNS server for an IP address.
So if anything, you are less likely to be hacked using something in the hosts file than in DNS, since they would have to modify the hosts file on your computer instead of compromising the DNS server and how it is updated.

There is a reason you need administrative access to modify the hosts file, that is to protect you from malware modifying your hosts file to redirect you from one website to a fake one to collect say your passwords for Google, microsoft, amazon, ebay, your bank, etc.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Oh..thank you for sharing the entire post.
The journalist in me would be asking ffn staff why, if they removed items on 10 July, they waited until 12 July to document that action with godaddy?
Of course I would at the same time ask godaddy why a link was included that has no child abuse content in it as well though.

On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, Timothy Wynn via groups.io wrote:

Here is the [official word from FictionPress on X/Twitter][1]:

is serving millions of active readers/authors world-wide and a fictional site hosting stories and poetry. We have a very strict policy on sexual content and sexual content related to child abuse. On July 12th, @GoDaddy deactivated dns-resolution for our domain due to a dozen links of fictional content they deemed broke their "ChildAbuse" policy. Godaddy sent the dozen links to us on July 9th.

Our human staff between July 10th 6PM-10PM PST time validated every link and removed the content that broke our policies regarding sexual abuse content. The list even contained a link that contained no sexual abuse of any kind. That why we human verify every abuse report. We officially replied to Godaddy on July 12th even though content was removed on July 10th.

Yet on July 12th, our domain was disconnected from the dns eco-system, with zero notification/communication, causing 100% operational disconnection including email, website, app login, etc.

Our staff called in to Godaddy on July 12th and was assured 24 hour reply. It has been more than 24 hours and we are still getting no response. @Godaddy, please expediate the review process so we can get dns back again. Again, we received zero communication on the dns deactivation and our communication is limited to childabuse@... email which we have replied to on July 12th, and July 13th via multiple emails.

To our users, please be patient as we work hard to get this resolved but as detailed above, this is entirely out of our control at the moment.

If you personally know anyone at @Godaddy, please help us and let them know to expediate this matter and establish bi-directional contact with us.

@GoDaddy @GoDaddyHelp @GoDaddyPro
Timothy

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Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

As of 0745, 7/14/2024, it's up and running

On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 01:42:24 AM CDT, <danyetman@...> wrote:


They have b having trouble for the past FIFTEEN YEARS.


On Jul 13, 2024, at 3:54?AM, grenouille7777 via groups.io <grenouille7777@...> wrote:

?
For some reason, there is no longer a DNS entry for them and hasn't been for a couple of days. A work-around is to either use their app, or manually add an entry for them in your computer's hosts file. Details are in a thread on the CaerAzkaban group.

For once, it's not their fault.

Probably.

Mike

On 7/13/24 00:44, Chazzman via groups.io wrote:
They have been having trouble all night.


On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 03:43:11 AM EDT, Thomas via groups.io <polander50@...> wrote:


There's a story I'm reading on ff.net and it disappeared. All I get is "dns_probe_finished_nxdomain" errors. Anyone have any ideas?

Tom.

--? and hasn't been for a couple of days

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

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They have b having trouble for the past FIFTEEN YEARS.


On Jul 13, 2024, at 3:54?AM, grenouille7777 via groups.io <grenouille7777@...> wrote:

? For some reason, there is no longer a DNS entry for them and hasn't been for a couple of days. A work-around is to either use their app, or manually add an entry for them in your computer's hosts file. Details are in a thread on the CaerAzkaban group.

For once, it's not their fault.

Probably.

Mike

On 7/13/24 00:44, Chazzman via groups.io wrote:
They have been having trouble all night.


On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 03:43:11 AM EDT, Thomas via groups.io <polander50@...> wrote:


There's a story I'm reading on ff.net and it disappeared. All I get is "dns_probe_finished_nxdomain" errors. Anyone have any ideas?

Tom.

--? and hasn't been for a couple of days

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

>GoDaddy

<Adam Savage>

Well *there's* your problem!?

</Adam Savage>

DaZZa

On Sun, 14 July 2024, 2:50 pm Timothy Wynn via , <tmthywynn8=[email protected]> wrote:

Here is the :

is serving millions of active readers/authors world-wide and a fictional site hosting stories and poetry. We have a very strict policy on sexual content and sexual content related to child abuse. On July 12th, @GoDaddy deactivated dns-resolution for our domain due to a dozen links of fictional content they deemed broke their "ChildAbuse" policy. Godaddy sent the dozen links to us on July 9th.

Our human staff between July 10th 6PM-10PM PST time validated every link and removed the content that broke our policies regarding sexual abuse content. The list even contained a link that contained no sexual abuse of any kind. That why we human verify every abuse report. We officially replied to Godaddy on July 12th even though content was removed on July 10th.

Yet on July 12th, our domain was disconnected from the dns eco-system, with zero notification/communication, causing 100% operational disconnection including email, website, app login, etc.

Our staff called in to Godaddy on July 12th and was assured 24 hour reply. It has been more than 24 hours and we are still getting no response. @Godaddy, please expediate the review process so we can get dns back again. Again, we received zero communication on the dns deactivation and our communication is limited to childabuse@... email which we have replied to on July 12th, and July 13th via multiple emails.

To our users, please be patient as we work hard to get this resolved but as detailed above, this is entirely out of our control at the moment.

If you personally know anyone at @Godaddy, please help us and let them know to expediate this matter and establish bi-directional contact with us.

@GoDaddy @GoDaddyHelp @GoDaddyPro

Timothy


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

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Yeah, I heard about it shortly after I sent the previous. Re-edited my hosts file (sorta safe and easy under Linux) and all was well. Thanks, though.

Mike

On 7/13/24 22:07, Elizabeth DeLooze via groups.io wrote:
Check at your location people who didn't do the work around are saying that it is up and running again.

On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 12:57:31 AM EDT, grenouille7777 via groups.io <grenouille7777@...> wrote:


Probably not, unless you've rooted your tablet. Android locks out all access to the system files as part of their security model. I did google "edit host file android" and found a few ways to supposedly do it, but all seemed pretty sketchy and prone to permanently screwing up your device.

Mike

On 7/13/24 21:45, Lise-Ann B via groups.io wrote:
Sorry if someone already answered this and I missed it in all the other posts, but is there a way to do this for my Android tablet?
--

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


--

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Another reason to avoid Android.

I hate "We know better than you do" attitudes from software.


On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 05:57, grenouille7777 via <grenouille7777=[email protected]> wrote:
Probably not, unless you've rooted your tablet. Android locks out all access to the system files as part of their security model. I did google "edit host file android" and found a few ways to supposedly do it, but all seemed pretty sketchy and prone to permanently screwing up your device.

Mike

On 7/13/24 21:45, Lise-Ann B via wrote:
Sorry if someone already answered this and I missed it in all the other posts, but is there a way to do this for my Android tablet?

--

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Check at your location people who didn't do the work around are saying that it is up and running again.

On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 12:57:31 AM EDT, grenouille7777 via groups.io <grenouille7777@...> wrote:


Probably not, unless you've rooted your tablet. Android locks out all access to the system files as part of their security model. I did google "edit host file android" and found a few ways to supposedly do it, but all seemed pretty sketchy and prone to permanently screwing up your device.

Mike

On 7/13/24 21:45, Lise-Ann B via groups.io wrote:
Sorry if someone already answered this and I missed it in all the other posts, but is there a way to do this for my Android tablet?
--

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

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Probably not, unless you've rooted your tablet. Android locks out all access to the system files as part of their security model. I did google "edit host file android" and found a few ways to supposedly do it, but all seemed pretty sketchy and prone to permanently screwing up your device.

Mike

On 7/13/24 21:45, Lise-Ann B via groups.io wrote:
Sorry if someone already answered this and I missed it in all the other posts, but is there a way to do this for my Android tablet?

--

I want to be 14 again & ruin my life differently. I have new ideas.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Well it seems to be working now.


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Here is the :

is serving millions of active readers/authors world-wide and a fictional site hosting stories and poetry. We have a very strict policy on sexual content and sexual content related to child abuse. On July 12th, @GoDaddy deactivated dns-resolution for our domain due to a dozen links of fictional content they deemed broke their "ChildAbuse" policy. Godaddy sent the dozen links to us on July 9th.

Our human staff between July 10th 6PM-10PM PST time validated every link and removed the content that broke our policies regarding sexual abuse content. The list even contained a link that contained no sexual abuse of any kind. That why we human verify every abuse report. We officially replied to Godaddy on July 12th even though content was removed on July 10th.

Yet on July 12th, our domain was disconnected from the dns eco-system, with zero notification/communication, causing 100% operational disconnection including email, website, app login, etc.

Our staff called in to Godaddy on July 12th and was assured 24 hour reply. It has been more than 24 hours and we are still getting no response. @Godaddy, please expediate the review process so we can get dns back again. Again, we received zero communication on the dns deactivation and our communication is limited to childabuse@... email which we have replied to on July 12th, and July 13th via multiple emails.

To our users, please be patient as we work hard to get this resolved but as detailed above, this is entirely out of our control at the moment.

If you personally know anyone at @Godaddy, please help us and let them know to expediate this matter and establish bi-directional contact with us.

@GoDaddy @GoDaddyHelp @GoDaddyPro

Timothy


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

Sorry if someone already answered this and I missed it in all the other posts, but is there a way to do this for my Android tablet?


Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

DNS is the internet's weak point.

There's a common haiku about it in Sysadmin spaces.

The method used isn't a "hack" or unintended bypass - it's always worked that way - the hosts file was how to resolved IP addresses into human readable form before public DNS was widespread.

When the real DNS is functional again - you simply remove the address.

You won't look like a threat because the other end has no idea how you resolved the address - it can't tell. The worst you have is the risk of hitting a phishing website if you leave it in place and someone else gets access to the address.

D


On Sun, 14 July 2024, 9:57 am Karen Lewellen, <klewellen@...> wrote:
hmm.
Perhaps it is me, but does not all this feel like you are opening the door
for? hacking at their end again?
FFN reports dns address issues..which in and of itself is concerning.
All of these surprise dns options exist that bypass what should not be
easily bypassed.
It just feels odd.
For me personally main site has been running cloudflare stories for a few
years now, but still.
What happens once the real dns door is restored?
will not you look like a possible threat using this alternative?
Just wondering of course.
Kare



On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, DaZZa wrote:

> The Linux equivalent is located in
>
> /etc
>
> And is also called "hosts"
>
> You will need to be the root user (or have sudi permissions) to edit this
> file
>
> D
>
> On Sun, 14 July 2024, 1:56 am Karen Lewellen via , <klewellen=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In theory, just where does one edit the host file?
>> is it in a browser preference?
>> Mine are Linux based.
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, tumshie1960 via wrote:
>>
>>> It's been down for between 24 to 48 hours depending on where you live,
>> they are supposedly working on it to get it back up. The suggestion to
>> edit hosts file will get it back working.
>>>
>>> Tommy
>>>
>>> British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
>>>
>>>
>>>? ? On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 16:38:43 BST, J. S. Miller <
>> wulffe_lord@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I've been meaning to ask for a few days now, but been to busy with work
>> and all.
>>> The fanfiction site has been down for quite some time now - any news if
>> it will be back up or not ??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> J.S.M.-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tumshie1960
>> via <tumshie1960=[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2024 11:27 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did go bye-bye? Thanks, worked
>> perfectly after working out I had to run Notepad as administrator
>>> Tommy
>>>
>>> British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 14:50:26 BST, mtiller via
>> <mtiller=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Delia,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It¡¯s not super difficult.? Look online for instructions on editing hosts
>> file and add this line and save it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 104.18.19.242
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DeliaDee via
>>
>>> Sent: 13 July 2024 11:19
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did go bye-bye?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you go about adding an entry to host files? Is that something a
>> person should do if they know nothing (I drink and yet I know nothing)?
>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

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Unfortunately, to protect against various malware crap, I've locked almost everything out of modifying that file ... including myself. Sheesh!

On 7/13/2024 9:14 PM, Icemanau via groups.io wrote:

Not really.

DNS stands for Domain Name Server and all it does is provide the IP number to the requesting computer.
An IP number is basically the same as a?street address. It just tells everyone WHERE they are located.
The DNS is just a giant hosts file all by itself and all the different DNS systems cross reference and update from each other all the time.

That just means that an address being removed from one machine will slowly propagate through all the DNS systems.
This shows up as sites coming up and going down at different times according to when the different DNS systems update.
This was illustrated with the latest problem with FFN with some people losing it quickly while other people still had it showing up for close to a day before they lost it.

The website IP address is assigned by whichever Hosting Service is providing the space for the website and is added to their local DNS system...

If the host decides they no longer want to host the website or the client shuts the site down, they remove the site's IP address from their local DNS system.

Setting the IP number in the Hosts file just bypasses the entire DNS system and sets the IP address for the specified website locally. In this case the IP address is to cloudflare's FFN access address which then bypasses the DNS server as well.

==========


"My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes." ~Douglas Adams

Regards Brad


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2024 09:57
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: tumshie1960@... <tumshie1960@...>; dazzagibbs@... <dazzagibbs@...>
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?
?
hmm.
Perhaps it is me, but does not all this feel like you are opening the door
for? hacking at their end again?
FFN reports dns address issues..which in and of itself is concerning.
All of these surprise dns options exist that bypass what should not be
easily bypassed.
It just feels odd.
For me personally main site has been running cloudflare stories for a few
years now, but still.
What happens once the real dns door is restored?
will not you look like a possible threat using this alternative?
Just wondering of course.
Kare



On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, DaZZa wrote:

> The Linux equivalent is located in
>
> /etc
>
> And is also called "hosts"
>
> You will need to be the root user (or have sudi permissions) to edit this
> file
>
> D
>
> On Sun, 14 July 2024, 1:56 am Karen Lewellen via groups.io, <klewellen=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In theory, just where does one edit the host file?
>> is it in a browser preference?
>> Mine are Linux based.
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, tumshie1960 via groups.io wrote:
>>
>>> It's been down for between 24 to 48 hours depending on where you live,
>> they are supposedly working on it to get it back up. The suggestion to
>> edit hosts file will get it back working.
>>>
>>> Tommy
>>>
>>> British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
>>>
>>>
>>>??? On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 16:38:43 BST, J. S. Miller <
>> wulffe_lord@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I've been meaning to ask for a few days now, but been to busy with work
>> and all.
>>> The fanfiction site has been down for quite some time now - any news if
>> it will be back up or not ??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> J.S.M.-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tumshie1960
>> via groups.io <tumshie1960@...>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2024 11:27 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye? Thanks, worked
>> perfectly after working out I had to run Notepad as administrator
>>> Tommy
>>>
>>> British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 14:50:26 BST, mtiller via groups.io
>> <mtiller@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Delia,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It?€?s not super difficult.? Look online for instructions on editing hosts
>> file and add this line and save it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 104.18.19.242
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DeliaDee via
>> groups.io
>>> Sent: 13 July 2024 11:19
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you go about adding an entry to host files? Is that something a
>> person should do if they know nothing (I drink and yet I know nothing)?
>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

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Not really.

DNS stands for Domain Name Server and all it does is provide the IP number to the requesting computer.
An IP number is basically the same as a?street address. It just tells everyone WHERE they are located.
The DNS is just a giant hosts file all by itself and all the different DNS systems cross reference and update from each other all the time.

That just means that an address being removed from one machine will slowly propagate through all the DNS systems.
This shows up as sites coming up and going down at different times according to when the different DNS systems update.
This was illustrated with the latest problem with FFN with some people losing it quickly while other people still had it showing up for close to a day before they lost it.

The website IP address is assigned by whichever Hosting Service is providing the space for the website and is added to their local DNS system...

If the host decides they no longer want to host the website or the client shuts the site down, they remove the site's IP address from their local DNS system.

Setting the IP number in the Hosts file just bypasses the entire DNS system and sets the IP address for the specified website locally. In this case the IP address is to cloudflare's FFN access address which then bypasses the DNS server as well.

==========


"My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes." ~Douglas Adams

Regards Brad


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2024 09:57
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: tumshie1960@... <tumshie1960@...>; dazzagibbs@... <dazzagibbs@...>
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?
?
hmm.
Perhaps it is me, but does not all this feel like you are opening the door
for? hacking at their end again?
FFN reports dns address issues..which in and of itself is concerning.
All of these surprise dns options exist that bypass what should not be
easily bypassed.
It just feels odd.
For me personally main site has been running cloudflare stories for a few
years now, but still.
What happens once the real dns door is restored?
will not you look like a possible threat using this alternative?
Just wondering of course.
Kare



On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, DaZZa wrote:

> The Linux equivalent is located in
>
> /etc
>
> And is also called "hosts"
>
> You will need to be the root user (or have sudi permissions) to edit this
> file
>
> D
>
> On Sun, 14 July 2024, 1:56 am Karen Lewellen via groups.io, <klewellen=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In theory, just where does one edit the host file?
>> is it in a browser preference?
>> Mine are Linux based.
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, tumshie1960 via groups.io wrote:
>>
>>> It's been down for between 24 to 48 hours depending on where you live,
>> they are supposedly working on it to get it back up. The suggestion to
>> edit hosts file will get it back working.
>>>
>>> Tommy
>>>
>>> British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
>>>
>>>
>>>??? On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 16:38:43 BST, J. S. Miller <
>> wulffe_lord@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I've been meaning to ask for a few days now, but been to busy with work
>> and all.
>>> The fanfiction site has been down for quite some time now - any news if
>> it will be back up or not ??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> J.S.M.-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tumshie1960
>> via groups.io <tumshie1960@...>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2024 11:27 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye? Thanks, worked
>> perfectly after working out I had to run Notepad as administrator
>>> Tommy
>>>
>>> British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 14:50:26 BST, mtiller via groups.io
>> <mtiller@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Delia,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It?€?s not super difficult.? Look online for instructions on editing hosts
>> file and add this line and save it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 104.18.19.242
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DeliaDee via
>> groups.io
>>> Sent: 13 July 2024 11:19
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you go about adding an entry to host files? Is that something a
>> person should do if they know nothing (I drink and yet I know nothing)?
>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?

 

hmm.
Perhaps it is me, but does not all this feel like you are opening the door for hacking at their end again?
FFN reports dns address issues..which in and of itself is concerning.
All of these surprise dns options exist that bypass what should not be easily bypassed.
It just feels odd.
For me personally main site has been running cloudflare stories for a few years now, but still.
What happens once the real dns door is restored?
will not you look like a possible threat using this alternative?
Just wondering of course.
Kare

On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, DaZZa wrote:

The Linux equivalent is located in

/etc

And is also called "hosts"

You will need to be the root user (or have sudi permissions) to edit this
file

D

On Sun, 14 July 2024, 1:56 am Karen Lewellen via groups.io, <klewellen=
[email protected]> wrote:

In theory, just where does one edit the host file?
is it in a browser preference?
Mine are Linux based.
Karen



On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, tumshie1960 via groups.io wrote:

It's been down for between 24 to 48 hours depending on where you live,
they are supposedly working on it to get it back up. The suggestion to
edit hosts file will get it back working.

Tommy

British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
www.stopthetraffik.org

On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 16:38:43 BST, J. S. Miller <
wulffe_lord@...> wrote:

Hey all,
I've been meaning to ask for a few days now, but been to busy with work
and all.
The fanfiction site has been down for quite some time now - any news if
it will be back up or not ??

Thanks,
J.S.M.-=-=-=-=-=-=-

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tumshie1960
via groups.io <tumshie1960@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2024 11:27 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye? Thanks, worked
perfectly after working out I had to run Notepad as administrator
Tommy

British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
www.stopthetraffik.org

On Saturday, 13 July 2024 at 14:50:26 BST, mtiller via groups.io
<mtiller@...> wrote:


Delia,



It¡¯s not super difficult. Look online for instructions on editing hosts
file and add this line and save it.



104.18.19.242 www.fanfiction.net



Mark.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DeliaDee via
groups.io
Sent: 13 July 2024 11:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Snorkack] Did fanfiction.net go bye-bye?



How do you go about adding an entry to host files? Is that something a
person should do if they know nothing (I drink and yet I know nothing)?
Thanks.