On 4/30/2022 2:32 PM, AlyssonR wrote:
> Slick, I was kidding, honest.
>
> But not about how to configure the damned thing.
>
> I switch it on. The fan runs, the lights blink and it sits there looking
> balefully at me.
>
> I tried sacrificing a chicken, but it gives me the impression that it
> hungers for
> something richer, like the souls of the damned.
>
> I wonder if it wants to be paired up with the bloody Cisco Integrated
> Services Router
> that it arrived with.
>
> I really, REALLY don't feel up to reading fracking Cisco manuals right
> now. Maybe
> while the college is on summer break. Or maybe I can find someone who speaks
> parseltongue to do the job for me.
>
>
I only have some VERY basic training on Cisco routers and switches, the
kind that have a limited built-in firewall. Unfortunately it is over 10
years out of date, from back when Cisco called their operating system
"IOS" before they sold the name to Apple.

I was making a joke when I said "ENABLE" you, as back then to enter
administration/configuration mode you had to use the command "enable"
and enter in the "enable password". I have not been privy to an Enable
Password since 2013. I'm not CCNA.

That said, I know nothing of the device you mention other than it being
a Cisco product.
It is quite possible that you need to use an old XP computer with serial
ports, HyperTerminal (comes with XP, though you may need to add it with
the "add/remove Windows components" in "Add/Remove Programs", especially
on Home editions) and a rollover cable to configure the device.
Look at the back of the device and see if there is an RJ-45 jack
(Ethernet) that is labeled "Terminal", "TERM", "Console", or "Config" or
something along those lines.? Something different from "ETH1" or
"Ethernet 1".
IIRC Microsoft in its wisdom dropped Hyperterminal in Windows Vista
because their license expired. If it wasn't Vista it was Windows 7.
This might help, but I haven't tried. I know Putty won't help since it
only works over TCP/IP, not the serial ports (or a serial->usb
conversion). I do recommend Putty for SSH connections. Much easier than
Microsith's inadequate command-line tool. It's about as basic as the
telnet and FTP commands.


Sorry for not being precise, it's been a decade since I've had to
configure a router or switch other than a home device as opposed to just
plugging in cables into said switches while somebody else configured it.
What was Cisco and what was other brands is blurring together for the
labels.

I’ve always found sacrificing a goat works better. ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of AlyssonR
Sent: 30 April 2022 20:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Cloud computing (was Re: [Snorkack] Help with finding a Fic #ficsearch)

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Slick, I was kidding, honest.

?

But not about how to configure the damned thing.

?

I switch it on. The fan runs, the lights blink and it sits there looking balefully at me.

?

I tried sacrificing a chicken, but it gives me the impression that it hungers for

something richer, like the souls of the damned.

?

I wonder if it wants to be paired up with the bloody Cisco Integrated Services Router

that it arrived with.

?

I really, REALLY don't feel up to reading fracking Cisco manuals right now. Maybe

while the college is on summer break. Or maybe I can find someone who speaks

parseltongue to do the job for me.

?

?

Alysson Rowan

LinkedIn:??????

Academia:???

Project Blog:

YouTube:??????

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On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 at 19:43, Ariel Schnee <arielschnee3@...> wrote:

And then they wonder why they're failing. It can't be -their- fault. No,
it -has- to be the workers'. ... Sheesh.



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From: "SlickRCBD" <slickrcbdalerts@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2022 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Cloud computing (was Re: [Snorkack] Help with finding a Fic
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You forgot that the short-sighted company that just let go of their IT
staff then realizes that they DO need to pay for people to maintain
those workstations or laptops they issued everyone. That even the
extended warranty doesn't cover software issues and that the
infrastructure in the building can still fail with users who can't track
down a cable that is loose or disconnected, and are often prohibited by
company Policy from even attempting to diagnose things themselves.

Then of course they want to hire somebody with a master's in computer
science with 2-5 years experience that knows all their specialized
programs inside and out and pay them $25,000 a year to maintain things,
and complain about a "labor shortage" when they can't find any
candidates that are a perfect match, all say they need to learn one or
two of their programs, or just graduated and have no "business
experience", only experience maintaining computers for friends and
family, or only have an associates degree, etc.
It's not like they can't learn and be trained on the more highly
specialized programs, no they need somebody that can "hit the ground
running" with no training time.

I currently have my computer backed up with several external hard drives (they are getting rather elderly), and three different Cloud services (sue me, I'm paranoid). My question is about those rather elderly external hard drives. Can anyone suggest some replacements?? Would it help to know that my paranoia has me running 5 of the silly things? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Trouble

I currently have my computer backed up with several external hard drives (they are getting rather elderly), and three different Cloud services (sue me, I'm paranoid). My question is about those rather elderly external hard drives. Can anyone suggest some replacements?? Would it help to know that my paranoia has me running 5 of the silly things? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Trouble

And then they wonder why they're failing. It can't be -their- fault. No,
it -has- to be the workers'. ... Sheesh.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "SlickRCBD" <slickrcbdalerts@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2022 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Cloud computing (was Re: [Snorkack] Help with finding a Fic
#ficsearch)


You forgot that the short-sighted company that just let go of their IT
staff then realizes that they DO need to pay for people to maintain
those workstations or laptops they issued everyone. That even the
extended warranty doesn't cover software issues and that the
infrastructure in the building can still fail with users who can't track
down a cable that is loose or disconnected, and are often prohibited by
company Policy from even attempting to diagnose things themselves.

Then of course they want to hire somebody with a master's in computer
science with 2-5 years experience that knows all their specialized
programs inside and out and pay them $25,000 a year to maintain things,
and complain about a "labor shortage" when they can't find any
candidates that are a perfect match, all say they need to learn one or
two of their programs, or just graduated and have no "business
experience", only experience maintaining computers for friends and
family, or only have an associates degree, etc.
It's not like they can't learn and be trained on the more highly
specialized programs, no they need somebody that can "hit the ground
running" with no training time.

On 4/30/2022 11:34 AM, Brandon wrote:
> The idea is it's a cost savings to not have to pay for servers and
> floorspace and only pay for the compute you actually use.
>
> Then it becomes "Well, it's a bit more expensive but I don't have to pay
> for people dedicated to maintaining the infrastructure."
>
> Then it ends up "I need to be able to make full control decisions for my
> equipment, and [Cloud Company] doesn't let me, so we'll buy servers and
> open a datacenter."
>
> Government contracting follows the same swing between gov employees and
> contractors.
>
You forgot that the short-sighted company that just let go of their IT
staff then realizes that they DO need to pay for people to maintain
those workstations or laptops they issued everyone. That even the
extended warranty doesn't cover software issues and that the
infrastructure in the building can still fail with users who can't track
down a cable that is loose or disconnected, and are often prohibited by
company Policy from even attempting to diagnose things themselves.

Then of course they want to hire somebody with a master's in computer
science with 2-5 years experience that knows all their specialized
programs inside and out and pay them $25,000 a year to maintain things,
and complain about a "labor shortage" when they can't find any
candidates that are a perfect match, all say they need to learn one or
two of their programs, or just graduated and have no "business
experience", only experience maintaining computers for friends and
family, or only have an associates degree, etc.
It's not like they can't learn and be trained on the more highly
specialized programs, no they need somebody that can "hit the ground
running" with no training time.

It is.? You're paying someone?else to pay for servers and floor space.? Of course, the concept is that when you're not using it, someone else is, but ...

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:55 AM Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...> wrote:

that seems a bit nonsensical.



On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, Brandon wrote:

> The idea behind it is you don't have to pay for servers and floorspace.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:27 AM Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
> wrote:
>
>> I want a mug like that one!
>> Honestly, speaking personally, I cannot imagine what purpose cloud
>> computing actually has? to the individual, other than allowing other
>> computers to do what you, or your office, or your company can better do on
>> their own.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, DaZZa wrote:
>>
>>> I've been in IT for 35 years, and the increase in reliance on "the cloud"
>>> dismays me.
>>>
>>> I have a mug at work that reads
>>>
>>> "There is no cloud. It's just someone else's computer"
>>>
>>> I'm also not in the US - and the complete disregard US government
>> agencies
>>> seem to take with other people's data - even if they're not US citizens -
>>> gives me very little trust in the sovereignty of cloud data storage.
>>>
>>> DaZZa
>>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, 3:22 pm SlickRCBD, <slickrcbdalerts@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While it has its usage, I think the way Cloud Storage is being pushed
>>>> only benefits the companies that are pushing it, to the detriment of the
>>>> users.
>>>> Yes, it has its uses, as a backup location, but it should almost never
>>>> be your primary storage.
>>>> If it is your primary storage, such as somebody sharing a computer with
>>>> other people, there should be a backup somewhere more local. Having an
>>>> on-site server your company owned would be far smarter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/29/2022 9:55 PM, Icemanau wrote:
>>>>> My biggest concern with the Cloud is location.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in Aus and if the cloud servers are in the US, and what I'm working
>>>>> on is considered to be against the export laws of the US, I could very
>>>>> well loose all access to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's on top of all the other problems l can see.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are working from the cloud and your internet goes down due to
>>>>> some idiot digging up the cables, your screwed until they get fixed.
>>>>> Tasmania had this happen. Both cables got cut in separate instances on
>>>>> the same day. End result, Tassie basically shut down until it was up
>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ease of access for anyone and everyone with the know how to hack in to
>>>>> the cloud server.
>>>>>
>>>>> What happens if the server location is taken over by hostile forces
>>>>> (Ukraine anyone?).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that there are lots of other problems with using the cloud
>> that
>>>>> I haven't listed as well.
>>>>>
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that seems a bit nonsensical.



On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, Brandon wrote:

> The idea behind it is you don't have to pay for servers and floorspace.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 11:27 AM Karen Lewellen <klewellen@...>
> wrote:
>
>> I want a mug like that one!
>> Honestly, speaking personally, I cannot imagine what purpose cloud
>> computing actually has? to the individual, other than allowing other
>> computers to do what you, or your office, or your company can better do on
>> their own.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, DaZZa wrote:
>>
>>> I've been in IT for 35 years, and the increase in reliance on "the cloud"
>>> dismays me.
>>>
>>> I have a mug at work that reads
>>>
>>> "There is no cloud. It's just someone else's computer"
>>>
>>> I'm also not in the US - and the complete disregard US government
>> agencies
>>> seem to take with other people's data - even if they're not US citizens -
>>> gives me very little trust in the sovereignty of cloud data storage.
>>>
>>> DaZZa
>>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, 3:22 pm SlickRCBD, <slickrcbdalerts@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While it has its usage, I think the way Cloud Storage is being pushed
>>>> only benefits the companies that are pushing it, to the detriment of the
>>>> users.
>>>> Yes, it has its uses, as a backup location, but it should almost never
>>>> be your primary storage.
>>>> If it is your primary storage, such as somebody sharing a computer with
>>>> other people, there should be a backup somewhere more local. Having an
>>>> on-site server your company owned would be far smarter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/29/2022 9:55 PM, Icemanau wrote:
>>>>> My biggest concern with the Cloud is location.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in Aus and if the cloud servers are in the US, and what I'm working
>>>>> on is considered to be against the export laws of the US, I could very
>>>>> well loose all access to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's on top of all the other problems l can see.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are working from the cloud and your internet goes down due to
>>>>> some idiot digging up the cables, your screwed until they get fixed.
>>>>> Tasmania had this happen. Both cables got cut in separate instances on
>>>>> the same day. End result, Tassie basically shut down until it was up
>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ease of access for anyone and everyone with the know how to hack in to
>>>>> the cloud server.
>>>>>
>>>>> What happens if the server location is taken over by hostile forces
>>>>> (Ukraine anyone?).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that there are lots of other problems with using the cloud
>> that
>>>>> I haven't listed as well.
>>>>>
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