Where your data lives is a big dangerous thing. ?In higher ed and my state work, which data center in which country counts. Military research could only live on servers in the United States and it had to be in writing that it would. ?Grants of this type or that type would define where data can be stored and retained. ?One of the things I deal in right now is data retention. 1 month, 6 months, a year, 3 years, etc. ?freezing data is all fine and dandy if you don¡¯t have to get at it again, getting it back out of the locker is costly.
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On May 14, 2022, at 4:45 PM, AlyssonR <
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Busy setting up my own piece of cloud (Devon Fog) here.
Bugger letting them bastidz get their sticky mitts on my database .... or my writings.
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On Sat, 14 May 2022 at 21:24, fcewen00 <
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Mainframe and cloud are similar yet different in my mind.? Cloud is more the bastard red headed of mainframe.? The two things that mainframes need are space and people to keep an eye on it.? Cloud is a lot different, depending on what flavor you buy.? Depending on the flavor you buy, you can go from a large team of admins and engineers and sysadmins to just one troll living in the basements.? It really comes down to how much of your stuff and responsibilities you are willing to give up.
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And today you now have the companies that promote their cloud devices. ??
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Financial drones can't get their heads around the concept of decentralisation of resources.
Hardly surprising, they're just beancounters, after all.
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Seems like every University I have worked at had mainframe.? University of Kentucky had a prime, a vax, a cray, and ibm.? When I left the University of Georgia, they still had a mainframe for the budgeting software. ? Just can¡¯t escape the junk.
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Prime systems have ALL gone that way - they were just universally hated.
ICL mainframes were4 usually cannibalised to keep the peripherals going on other sites.
IBM mainframes are just upgraded to the point of being Hrothgar's Axe.
DEC mainframes are all in museums (or still in use).
Data General are used as boat anchors or as reinforcing in sea walls.
Honeywell mainframes just melt and get washed away.
Burroughs systems are always recycled as set dressing on SF 'B' movies.
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A dozen years ago or more, we got ahold of the Campus' Prime mainframe.? Rather than keeping it, we beat it to death with sledgehammers because we hated it so much.?
I still have an 80 column Hollerith card lying around. Ex:
I had a chance to pick up an IBM 027 keypunch a while back, along with a card reader(I think) but even for me that's a bit much in the clutter dept. Fun fact: early minicomputers used RS-232 to talk to VDTs as well as card readers.
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