Here is a chassis you might want to send the 3D?printer to design the steeple an around?
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Baldwin steeple cab in multiple scales 3-D print
I found a 3-D print of a Baldwin?steeple cab in multiple scales. If he doesn¡¯t have NScale, I¡¯m sure he will add that in.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=tdhH8sW_rZQ&feature=shared
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Sacramento Northern steeple cab
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=zEgzcpb4eLA&feature=shared
Rasch Studios always makes amazing custom N-Scale layouts for people
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Sacramento Northern in N-Scale
Great NScale steeple cab action somebody has. That looks like the old line to Oakland in the background.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=P72t9YcsvUI&feature=shared
Somebody on the list must have done this great layout. Pretty nice?
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Zero clearance PROXXON saw insert
Somebody in the other group pointed out you may want the zero clearance saw insert that is also offered on eBay for the Proxxon tablesaw. It¡¯s only about 12 bucks but if you make NScale Trestles?it may be necessary for fine work. Expect about every third piece to be misshapen
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Mini table saw for N-Scale trestles, caternary
I posted about?this on N-Scale Traction.?Has anyone seen or used the PROXXON German designed mini?table saw? I think it cuts down to 1-22mm or .04-5/6 inch. The cost of hobby wood is sort of prohibitive for some of the caternary work but I just ordered this and I plan on cutting thin scrap?pieces that cabinet shops give away?on a big table saw before ripping on the PROXXON so it doesn¡¯t bog down. They have one for around $115?coming in?the mail but the $400 one has angle adjustment on the saw blade and a table extension for panels which I thought was overkill for N-Scale size pieces. People who build full size wooden boats need a lot of dowels and they do it on the cheap by using a metal plate with holes drilled in it that they drive square wooden stock or sticks?through, sometimes with the wood turning in the chuck of a drill to help shape it. I have seen it done with a hammer or a drill but for small scale you might just drive it through by hand. They sell mini dowel making metal plates on eBay but most are too large except for an English one that is $110, and it only has one 1:160 scale?dowel hole so better to make your own. You have to lubricate with oil when drilling metal and usually you want to start the hole by hammering with?a center punch or even a big nail to give the drill bit something to follow so it won¡¯t wobble.?Don¡¯t use stainless steel plates. It will wreck drill bits because it is too hard.?I bought an N-Scale trestle template so the idea is to build trestle pieces when?I am stuck away from town on business.?They sell in store only at some?Harbor Freights?a mini table saw for $30, but I have heard it doesn¡¯t track as well. ?PROXXON Bench Circular Saw KS 115, 37006 , Green?
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Scott,
In general in the diesel era SN paint followed WP standards, so what is usually called Zephyr Orange should work. I always considered Floquil reefer orange to be acceptable and used that on my?44-tonners. That doesn't help much since Floquil is no longer available.
Given that (a) real paint fades, (b) it gets filthified?with dirt and diesel exhaust (very WP-ish!), (c) lighting on every layout will be different, and (d) the models will probably be weathered, it doesn't matter too much. Just get it close.
Spraying orange paint was one reason I backdated my SN and WP roster to the tuxedo era. Black is much more forgiving. Because I have never had a paint shop, my two airbrushes have gone almost totally unused. I use rattle cans and set my models on a now very colorful cinder block in the backyard.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ???????? Scotland forever!
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 11:34?AM Scott Wiesemann via <swiesemann52= [email protected]> wrote: Garth and Joel, Thanks so much for all the information on the Alco engines.? My next question is what would be the appropriate color of orange paint and from what model paint company.
Scott
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:08?AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford via <mallardlodge1000= [email protected]> wrote: Friends,
As promised, here are the black-and-white photos of SN's Alcos from my collection.
403: [West] Sacramento, 6/12/68. Will Whittaker photo, negative in my collection. Note the cab roof equipment: gumball beacon, firecracker ratio antenna and impressive horn array. IIRC, gumball lights were required by Chico's city fathers to operate over street trackage there.
404 (1st): West Sacramento, undated. Garth Groff photo.
404 (2nd): Stockton dead line, 4/22/73.?Will Whittaker photo, negative in my collection. The missing roof equipment suggests the locomotive has been stripped prior to sale for scrap on 8/15/73.
405: West Sacramento, undated. Photographer unknown, negative in my collection.
406: West Sacramento, 9/30/73. Henry Bender photo, negative in my collection via Will Whittaker. 406 was the only SN Alco with nose numberboards.
Last time the computer scrambled the order of my photos. Let's see if it works better this time.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ???????? Scotland forever!
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Garth and Joel, Thanks so much for all the information on the Alco engines.? My next question is what would be the appropriate color of orange paint and from what model paint company.
Scott
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:08?AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford via <mallardlodge1000= [email protected]> wrote:
Friends,
As promised, here are the black-and-white photos of SN's Alcos from my collection.
403: [West] Sacramento, 6/12/68. Will Whittaker photo, negative in my collection. Note the cab roof equipment: gumball beacon, firecracker ratio antenna and impressive horn array. IIRC, gumball lights were required by Chico's city fathers to operate over street trackage there.
404 (1st): West Sacramento, undated. Garth Groff photo.
404 (2nd): Stockton dead line, 4/22/73.?Will Whittaker photo, negative in my collection. The missing roof equipment suggests the locomotive has been stripped prior to sale for scrap on 8/15/73.
405: West Sacramento, undated. Photographer unknown, negative in my collection.
406: West Sacramento, 9/30/73. Henry Bender photo, negative in my collection via Will Whittaker. 406 was the only SN Alco with nose numberboards.
Last time the computer scrambled the order of my photos. Let's see if it works better this time.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ???????? Scotland forever!
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Friends,
As promised, here are the black-and-white photos of SN's Alcos from my collection.
403: [West] Sacramento, 6/12/68. Will Whittaker photo, negative in my collection. Note the cab roof equipment: gumball beacon, firecracker ratio antenna and impressive horn array. IIRC, gumball lights were required by Chico's city fathers to operate over street trackage there.
404 (1st): West Sacramento, undated. Garth Groff photo.
404 (2nd): Stockton dead line, 4/22/73.?Will Whittaker photo, negative in my collection. The missing roof equipment suggests the locomotive has been stripped prior to sale for scrap on 8/15/73.
405: West Sacramento, undated. Photographer unknown, negative in my collection.
406: West Sacramento, 9/30/73. Henry Bender photo, negative in my collection via Will Whittaker. 406 was the only SN Alco with nose numberboards.
Last time the computer scrambled the order of my photos. Let's see if it works better this time.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ???????? Scotland forever!
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Joel,
Nice photo, and great end views. Thanks for posting. This should be a big help to Scott.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ???????? Scotland forever!
Scott and Garth,
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I have this shot of 401, 403, and 404 in Sacramento, does this help?
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Purchased slide, unknown photographer, collection of Joel Kirk.
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Joel?
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Scott,
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Here are the 403 and 404 along with the 401 in Sacramento if this helps.
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Purchased slide, photographer unknown, collection of Joel Kirk.
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Joel Kirk
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Scott and Garth,
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I have this shot of 401, 403, and 404 in Sacramento, does this help?
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Purchased slide, unknown photographer, collection of Joel Kirk.
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Joel?
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For sale -- HO 44-tonners ...
Hi all,
I have for sale the following HO scale items from Rapido Trains:
44-tonner, Sacramento Northern road #142, with factory DCC
(LokSound) installed
44-tonner, Sacramento Northern road #146, with factory DCC
(LokSound) installed
Asking price US$325/ea, postage included if both purchased by same
buyer.
Kind regards,
Richard Main
Melbourne, Australia
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Friends,
Scott asked about other pictures of SN Alcos that were not used in SN Online. I pulled these five color shots from my collection. I have a few B&W views as well, but those will wait for another post.
So here is the rundown:
SN 403 (1), at the fuel track in West Sacramento; Glenn Groff photographer.
SN 403 (2), Sacramento, but location unknown; purchased photo, unknown photographer.
SN 405, probably West Sacramento; purchased photo, unknown photographer.
SN 406 (1), with VS 502 on the way to WRM, West Sac fuel track; Glenn Groff photographer.
SN 406 (2), Yuba City, Glenn Groff photographer.
I wish I had been able to see more of the SN during this era, but I was at college in Orange from fall 1969, and only returned to the Sacto area during the summers of 1970 and 1971 when I had summer jobs, and for a few holiday visits. I shot very few photos of any trains during those years. Following graduation in 1973, I stayed in Orange county until 1975 when I joined the Coast Guard. My first tour of duty was in Alameda where I became a Photojournalist (film and processing approved as "training" at government expense). I again was able to do some railfanning on the SN with my service buddy, the late Doug Ewen, but by then Perlman Green had descended over everything except WP F-units.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ????????
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Scott,
Yes, AFAIK, all four Alcos wore variations of the solid orange paint scheme during all their SN years. By variations, I mean that ex-Mopac 403 and 404 had black scare stripes on their noses. I am not sure if the stripes were repeated on the cab ends, but this would be logical. Who ever photographed the back ends? The only rear-end photos I have of SN Alcos are of solid-orange 406. Attached is my photo of ex-WP 511 as it was on the Yolo Shortline around 2000, which should be a pretty good guide for cab stripes on 403 and 404.
If you are building models, be sure to pay attention to the exhaust stacks. 403 had a taller round pipe added to the sloped Alco base. 404 had a rectangular stack attached directly to the engine cowl. 405's was a round pipe attached directly to the cowl. 406's stack appears to have also been attached to the cowl, but was rounded in the front and squared at the rear.
Attached is my model of WP 511 in the original black scheme which shows how 405's stack would probably have looked,?though possibly with a slightly?smaller diameter. Originally the S-1s simply had a hole in the cowl without a pipe extension, but this smutzed up the front windows pretty badly. I don't know if some were modified while still in tuxedo paint or if the change happened during the orange-and-silver era.?On page 15 of Strapac's WESTERN PACIFIC DIESEL YEARS there is a 1952 shot of WP 504 freshly painted in orange-and-silver (on the SN, no less, and yes it later became SN 405) that lacks the stack extension,?so I probably got it wrong. In the early diesel days WP 511 was assigned to Sacramento, and often worked the SN Sacto-Yuba City turn on the graveyard shift. It is (if it still exists) sort of ?an honorary SN diesel, which is why I chose 511 for my model.
Curiously, Baldwin VO-1000 SN 407 remained in WP orange-and-silver until sold for scrap in 1973.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ????????
On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 1:07?AM Scott Wiesemann via <swiesemann52= [email protected]> wrote: Garth are all of The ALCO Engines owned by the SN painted in the orange color? I have an S-1 and S-2 would you have any additional photos other then those in your all time SN? roster?
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Scott
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Garth are all of The ALCO Engines owned by the SN painted in the orange color? I have an S-1 and S-2 would you have any additional photos other then those in your all time SN? roster?
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Scott
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Re: Rapidos GE 44 ton locomotive
I got mine yesterday.
Ian Leslie
On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 07:49:09 PM MDT, Scott Wiesemann <swiesemann52@...> wrote:
Has anyone received the SN 44 ton locomotive from Rapido??
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Scott Wiesemann
