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Re: Yuba City Map
Very nice. On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 2:42?AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:
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Re: Yuba City Map
Scott and friends, Here is the shot of 711, with some corrections through Lemke Software's Graphic Converter. It is a tough photo to work on, being on the shadow side, but I did manage to bring up some of the detail and correct for fading. Working from the negative would be easier. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:31?PM Scott Wiesemann <swiesemann52@...> wrote: Hey all, |
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Re: Yuba City Map
That¡¯s an awesome photo, and brings back some memories? On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:34 PM, Philip Schmierer <dunsmuirpap_at_gmail.com_floraloasis@...> wrote:
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Re: Yuba City Map
THat's OK as you still have the photo, and maybe if you know someone who has a new? AI photoshop program, you could probably bring that photo back to PERFECT ! My Brother Attended Chico State College in 1968 to 1971 .? We'd come up and visit and it was sure fun seeing the Mice in downtown Chico. On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:31?AM Scott Wiesemann <swiesemann52@...> wrote: Hey all, |
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Photo Plan Pak SN 650-54?
Hi all,
Do any of you happen to have a copy of the SN 650-54 "Photo Plan Pak" shown in the first attachment? If so, is there any way you could send me a readable scan (or even photo) of the page shown in the second attachment, with the actual plans of SN 654? I'm trying to determine the dimensions and details of the 3rd-rail shoe housings that were attached to the frames (not the trucks) of these locomotives that are seen so prominently in many photos before they were removed in the 1950s. Thanks in advance for any help! Cheers, James |
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Re: Yuba City Map
Scott and Friends, I just dug out this view of the Yuba City yard in 2002 just after operations ended. You can see the ice machine track on the far right, partly covered by the hedge and with some power poles actually inserted between the ties. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 5:43?AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford via <mallardlodge1000=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Yuba City Map
Scott and friends, Originally there was a small PFE ice dock near the later fuel track. It served just six cars, and was stocked by the National?Ice Company in Marysville. The structure was wood, and had a small?storage shed attached. The ice dock can be seen in the article "An Island of Electricity" by Donald Sims in the March 1961 MODEL TRAINS magazine. A brief description is found on page 310 of PACIFIC FRUIT EXPRESS by Anthony W. Thompson (and associates). Sometime in the early 1960s this was replaced by a mechanical ice loader fed directly from an ice company truck. The?machine moved along the track in question, which was unconnected to the "live" yard tracks. I vaguely remember seeing this machine when I was a teenager, but didn't understand its significance, and certainly didn't take a photo. The machine was removed, and probably scrapped, sometime around 1970?when ice reefer service ended (by then WP/SN had switched from PFE to Fruit Growers Express). The ice track was not removed, and was eventually hidden under a hedge in what was probably a weak attempt at civic?beautification. AFAIK, the rails were still there when the UP finally pulled up all the yard?track. Photos of the machine are very rare, though I'm sure somebody has some. Anyone on this board have a photo to share? On the subject of SN icing. This was also done ad-hoc at Woodland. I was there in the late 1960s and saw cars filled with honeydew melons being iced in the small yard west of the tomato plant. Chunk ice was being fed by a conveyor from a Union Ice Company truck parked alongside. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:17?AM Scott Wiesemann <swiesemann52@...> wrote: Garth, |
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Re: Yuba City Map
Garth,
My name is Scott Wiesemann and I'm a graduate of CSU Chico class of 1978 and a retired AT&SF-BNSF Locomotive Engineer.? My first encounter with the SN was in the fall of 1975.? It was evening and I was in Helen's Donut Nook which is on the corner of 8th and main street in Chico.? while inside I heard what sounded like a bell ringing.? I turned around and there was SN 711 with a cut of cars and a caboose heading west down the middle of Main Street.? In the fall of 1977 I took a semester off in order to chase a girl that was student teaching in Marysville.? We shacked up in a bungalow a few blocks from the Yuba City Yard.? I got a job working for Merry Modular Homes that was located along the south side of the yard.? Maybe the building behind Sutter Orchard Supply.? I went back to school in the spring of 1978 and rented a converted garage behind a house that was converted into a copy center. That Garage was next store to Northern Star Mills on the Esplanade with the SN mainline crossing my driveway. I'm in the early planning stages of a mid sixties era HO layout around the Yuba City Yard, Del Monte Plant #14, WP Interchange at Marysville (hidden staging), industries at Paloro,and Colusa Jct.? The first of many questions: on your 1957 map you show item #15 as "ice machine track" could you explain what you mean by ice machine? Thanks, Scott |
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SF-S 104
Friends, A friend in Italy sent me the attached image of San Francisco-Sacramento 104, aka SNRY 604. The photo was taken at the 40th & Shafter yard during the early 1920s. The SF-S existed for only nine years, from 1920 when it succeeded the OA&E until its merger with the SNRY in 1929. This was well before the golden age of railfan photography. I suspect from the "suits" posing on the motor that this was a professional photo taken at the behest of the company. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? |
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Libby Cannery, Sacramento
Friends, In discussing the SN in Sacramento with Andrew Phillips, I did some scrounging around to find out more about the Libby, McNeill & Libby cannery. This massive factory was located on a triangle bounded by Alhambra Boulevard, Stockton Boulevard and R Street. It was served by the SP from R Street, and the SN by Alhambra. The SN had three spurs into the plant. There was a passing siding on Alhambra, I think to the north of the plant, which facilitated switching. I am not sure how the SN reached the plant, especially in later times, though it likely was via the X-Street line, and possibly via the R-Street line after X-Street was abandoned. You will note that the SN track in the street is not indicated. The Sanborn Map people did not include "trolley lines" after about 1910, no matter how much freight they moved. SP street trackage is shown.? Some of the buildings are still there, now an office park, but much of the old plant was destroyed when the cannery closed in the 1980s. Please enjoy the map and photos. If you can contribute more information on the SN operations to the cannery, please share it with us. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? |
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Re: Bidwell
While the WRM is largely focused on the SN, especially with the track andAnother consideration is that WRM already has a operable parlor/observation car, Salt Lake and Utah 751, so it's not like there is any operational urgency to restore Bidwell... though Inunderstand that it is still their definite intention to do so when time and funds permit. |
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Re: Bidwell
Are the builder's blueprints available for the Bidwell car ? Between photographs and builders drawings , all you need then is a? blanc cheque from Billy Gates or similar philanthropist . On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 1:44?PM Justin Rowe via <justingrowe=[email protected]> wrote:
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Scott Wiesemann
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Philip Schmierer
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