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Re: 70 tonner
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou bet ?now please find the 44 toner from the Amador central?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Justin Rowe via groups.io <justingrowe@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:46:21 PM To: Reply To Group <[email protected]> Subject: [SacNorthern] 70 tonner ?
I saw two 70 tonners today in Aylesbury Saskatchewan still fully operational! My job is in Canada most weeks?of the year.?One original?SN 44 tonner had ties to Canada. It would be fun to imagine one of them as An SN veteran.?
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Fairmont A32 Photo
Friends, My father's shot does not do justice to the Fairmont A32. I found a view of another one by a simple search. THIS IS NOT THE SN example, but similar. I also found an advertisement page about the New Haven Fairmonts. Apparently they were built on a Willys jeep chassis, and some were simple conversions of stock Willys models:? .?The SN and NH examples have Fairmont's own coachwork, as well as the Hy-rail wheels Wikipedia has a brief entry on Fairmont at? . Fairmont is not listed as a manufacturer of trucks in my copy of ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN TRUCKS AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES by Albert Mroz. Nor is it found in AMERICAN TRUCK SPOTTER'S GUIDE 1920-1970 by Tad Burness. This is a sad oversight, as the Fairmont A32 is clearly an over-the-road machine. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ? |
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SN MW Vehicles
Friends, Something rarely talked about are SN's highway trucks and other light service vehicles, so today I present you several photos from my collection to ponder and enjoy. I photographed the speeder in the Feather River Canyon (possibly near Belden) on the WP sometime between 1977 and 1980. I believe it is a Fairmont. The colors were light blue and silver. The car is pretty badly nicked and dented, but actually some of those dings are bullet pocks (look closely!). Pretty chilling, but they were probably made by vandals while the speeder was unattended at some distant location. Also note that the windshield is intact, maybe because it was repaired after the motor car was used for target practice. The second is another of my photos. This is from a color slide (now in the FRRS collection) which would date it to around 1976, The truck is a WP-owned Ford pick-up. This truck was near Elverta on the soon-to-be abandoned Rio Linda stub. Here's another oddity, a WP crew trailer. I found this parked in the West Sacramento yard at an unknown date. No more nasty old converted passenger cars for the MW gang.? Finally, we have a shot by my late father, Glenn Groff,?taken?in the 1960s of a hy-rail pick-up on the SN in Chico. The original slide is now also in the FRRS collection. This may be SN HR1, a "Fairmont A32 Highway-Rail motor car, pick-up body" which the SN acquired in 1953. The SN bought a similar unit in 1954, but it was resold only a year or so later. Company-owned trucks and automobiles were quite common on the SN by the late 1920s. Most were used for maintenance service or by supervisors for other duties. Some were actually used for revenue purposes by the crews at SN freight stations. P. Allen Copeland's AFE record compilation lists the acquisition or disposal of many of these vehicles, and sometimes their uses.? One example was AFE 28-36 dated 7-3-36. The SN traded in a 1924 1-ton Model T ?(probably with a stake body) in exchange for a 1934 Ford V-8 stake body. The exchange was with Ellesworth Harrold, possibly a local auto dealer (other vehicles were also bought from Harrold). The truck was assigned to the Sacramento freight station, and probably was used for local deliveries and to service the Woodland freight station. A later entry, AFE 21-42 of 6-18-42, records this truck as "retired on account of wreck 4-16-42." Another interesting purchase was on AFE 30-37 dated 8-5-37. A 1934 Plymouth coupe was purchased for the Holland Branch agent, with a 1929 Ford Model A coupe as a trade-in. Note that the Plymouth was a used car, and the SN was being its usual frugal self. Lots of interesting fodder here for details on an SN model railroad. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? |
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Re: NE 21 at Marysville
Bill and Friends, Note the light-colored . . . uh . . . ?mud on the underparts of the car, and up onto the lettering area. That "mud" disappeared as horses were replaced by automobiles. Another comment. This car was actually painted "poppy yellow", which had an orange cast to it. AFAIK, the window frames and roof would have been "terra cotta", a light brick shade. The colors show as dark thanks to the orthochromatic films of the time, which rendered yellow or orange as black/gray. These were the standard NE colors until the 1918?reorganization (the first two Birney streetcars, 60 and 61) were delivered in Pullman green, more or less as 62 is at the WRM). Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 11:50 AM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote: |
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Re: OA&E TT Folder June 21, 1915
Thanks for this great image. Is this level of service representative of it over the years? Though just a few trains, it seems like they covered most of the day at decent intervals On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:39 AM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote: |
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Haggin Yard Detail 2
Friends, Moving to the right of caboose 1614 we see a better view of a WP GS 40' composite gondola. This car might be from either series 4401-4500 or the nearly identical series 5301-6000. Floating near the top are two short gondolas. There are probably 34' Hart side-dump ballast cars from WP series 10001-10200. These cars were gone from the freight roster by 1940, but may have been reclassed as MW cars. My WP ORER sheets stop at 1932, then resume with 1940, so I don't know when they disappeared. Finally, the low-sided wooden "gondola" is an NE car, one of the surviving Fitzhugh-Luther 40' flat cars from 1907. By this time it likely had been rebuilt with steel draft gear arms if still in revenue service. Curiously, the SN always classed these cars as flats, even though the gondola sides were more-or-less permanent. In 1940 the SNRY still listed 63 of these cars in series 1300-1459. Sometimes the real treasures in old photos are what you find in the distance. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? |
