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Re: SN 2316

 

You could send the eBay item number or a link

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 12:04 AM James Dolan <dolan@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I saw that oddball car, too. But how in the world were you able to discern the car number? Allan has recently taken to posting intentionally blurry photos on the BAERA ebay site, presumably to discourage copying, and I can't even read one of those numbers! As far as the boxcar goes, it sure does look like a hastily patched WP car, complete with WP emblem intact. Very interesting, since every other car I've seen appears to have been completely repainted when sent to SN ownership. If you happen to buy this photo, is there any way you could post a high-res scan of it? That would be most interesting to see in detail.

Cheers,

James


Re: SN 2316

 

Hi Bill,

I saw that oddball car, too. But how in the world were you able to discern the car number? Allan has recently taken to posting intentionally blurry photos on the BAERA ebay site, presumably to discourage copying, and I can't even read one of those numbers! As far as the boxcar goes, it sure does look like a hastily patched WP car, complete with WP emblem intact. Very interesting, since every other car I've seen appears to have been completely repainted when sent to SN ownership. If you happen to buy this photo, is there any way you could post a high-res scan of it? That would be most interesting to see in detail.

Cheers,

James


Re: PG & E Birney update

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Thank you, Bill.

Michael?


On Mar 26, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote:

?Beautiful craftsmanship. ~Bill?


Re: PG & E Birney update

 

Beautiful craftsmanship. ~Bill?


Re: PG & E Birney update

michael.starkey
 

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Thanks, it took a few tries to figure it out!

Michael


On Mar 26, 2023, at 6:42 PM, rrmaven <dan.shirleylee@...> wrote:

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Very nice. I particularly like the raised trolley pole platforms.
? ?Dan. Lee, San Jose
On 03/26/2023 4:42 PM michael.starkey via groups.io <michael.starkey@...> wrote:


I’ve been slowly making progress. Here are a couple pictures... almost ready to paint.

Michael Starkey?
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Re: PG & E Birney update

 

Very nice. I particularly like the raised trolley pole platforms.
? ?Dan. Lee, San Jose

On 03/26/2023 4:42 PM michael.starkey via groups.io <michael.starkey@...> wrote:


I’ve been slowly making progress. Here are a couple pictures... almost ready to paint.

Michael Starkey?


PG & E Birney update

michael.starkey
 

I’ve been slowly making progress. Here are a couple pictures... almost ready to paint.

Michael Starkey?


SN 2316

 
Edited

Folks...

Just viewed a scan of this boxcar and it still has the WP emblem on the door. I was under the impression that the emblems were painted over. Garth, comments? EDIT: Just wanted to mention the? view is on Ebay BAERA for sale list.

~Bill


Launch Countess

 

Friends,

The SN's motor?launch Countess, was not often photographed, but Ken Jenkins lensed her in August 1940 at Mallard. The reeds suggest why she was so elusive--it probably took Jenkins a slog through some pretty swampy stuff to get this photo.?

Countess was the second of three launches owned?by the OA&E/SF-S/SN. The earliest was Laguna, which was purchased used by the OA&E as a fill-in after the first ferry Bridgit was lost to a fire in 1914. Countess was also a used?boat, bought by the SF-S in 1920. She served until 1942. The final launch was a mysterious boat named Legonia which was sold off in 1946. When not used in shuttle service during Ramon's downtime, the launches were used as workboats and were available for charter by (gulp: ?) duck hunting clubs.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff
Mallard Lodge ??


Re: Horses... Woodland

 

Bill and Friends,

Here's another view of Woodland Street Railway #2: . The?page says the car is at the Heidrick Agricultural Museum, Woodland, but I didn't see it listed on their web site.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff ??

On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 10:21?PM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote:
Have little on this obscure company...

Woodland Street Railway Company
Chartered October 1887 3-foot gauge horse car
Located Woodland California Yolo County?
Built 1.0 mile of horse car street railway. Began service May 1888.
~Bill?


Re: Horses... Woodland

 

Bill,

See? . This is the restored car, as it was in the Hayes Museum.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff ?

On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 10:21?PM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote:
Have little on this obscure company...

Woodland Street Railway Company
Chartered October 1887 3-foot gauge horse car
Located Woodland California Yolo County?
Built 1.0 mile of horse car street railway. Began service May 1888.
~Bill?


Re: Horses... Woodland

 

Have little on this obscure company...

Woodland Street Railway Company
Chartered October 1887 3-foot gauge horse car
Located Woodland California Yolo County?
Built 1.0 mile of horse car street railway. Began service May 1888.
~Bill?


Re: Horses...

 

Bill and Friends,

According to MARYSVILLE & YUBA CITY RAILROAD by Kirby M. Harris, the line used mules right from the start. There is no mention of horses in this work. I don't know much about equines, but I suspect mixing horses and mules on the same team would be a no-no.

This booklet is a very complete history of the company. It was originally?published as WESTERN RAILROADER issue 319 (or v.28, no.8) in August 1966. It was later reprinted with a heavier cover. If you can find this work, it is well worth having in your collection.

Woodland had its own horsecar line before the Northern Electric interurbans came to town. Their one surviving car was restored and displayed in the now-defunct?Hayes Antique Truck Museum at Woodland. I do not know where it went. My photo shows the car before restoration when it was "stored" at the Yolo County Fairgrounds in the mid-1960s

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff ??

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 9:34?AM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote:
Yes, now that I look closer the long-eared critter appears to be a mule. I'm not really into this kind of subject so appreciate your comment. Now that I look at some other prints I have of this operation it appears they used mules and horses.? BTW, after NE took over this company some of the "horse cars" were reused as lineside passenger shelters. (Not confirmed by photographs but from various historical writings.)
~Bill?


Vallejo & Northern Woodland station.

 

Here is a postcard I just picked up showing what became SNs Woodland station. V&N views, even converted ones like this are rather uncommon. I had no idea this building had V&N markings but yet here it is.?
? This building was eventually sold and repurposed then razed and rebuilt on the original foundation where it remains today. ~Bill?


Re: Horses...

 

I don't believe any were powered, they were very small and not standard gauge so I think once NE did their takeover they were repurposed like the former House Barn in Marysville. This building was standing into the 1970s however I don't know if it is still there. ~Bill?


Re: Horses...

 

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Were any converted to electric as done elsewhere?

Ken

On 3/2/2023 9:34 AM, Bill Shippen wrote:

Yes, now that I look closer the long-eared critter appears to be a mule. I'm not really into this kind of subject so appreciate your comment. Now that I look at some other prints I have of this operation it appears they used mules and horses.? BTW, after NE took over this company some of the "horse cars" were reused as lineside passenger shelters. (Not confirmed by photographs but from various historical writings.)
~Bill?



Re: Horses...

 

Yes, now that I look closer the long-eared critter appears to be a mule. I'm not really into this kind of subject so appreciate your comment. Now that I look at some other prints I have of this operation it appears they used mules and horses.? BTW, after NE took over this company some of the "horse cars" were reused as lineside passenger shelters. (Not confirmed by photographs but from various historical writings.)
~Bill?


Re: Horses...

 

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At least one of them is not a horse

Ken Harstine
413-250-8298

On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:47 PM, Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote:

?The below is the street service predecessor of NE in Marysville and Yuba City. Could have been an interesting ride. ~Bill?


Horses...

 

The below is the street service predecessor of NE in Marysville and Yuba City. Could have been an interesting ride. ~Bill?


Clippty Clop