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Re: Watching Paint Dry
Bill and Friends, Yes, it has been a while, but this is a small group (now), and in my case at least, one where I have more often responded to other's posts rather than initiate one of my own. For me there have been health issues, and a lot of my computer time has gone to writing articles and class hand-outs for non-SN projects,?as well as assisting at an archery tournament in North Carolina. What little time I have for model trains has for several years gone into British O-scale narrow gauge (my Scottish Midland Light Railway). So taking up the challenge, for Christmas I offer all of you a rare SN photo from 1969 (exact date uncertain). In January 1969 SN caboose 1636 was seriously charred in a fire and shoved onto a siding with other derelict equipment in West Sacramento. It actually wasn't written off until 1971, but certainly didn't operate again. So here is my photo of the charred remains, sadly from the shadow side. I don't have it in my documentation, but IIRC this car was sold to the Silverbend Christmas Tree Farm at Clarksburg, and cut down to an open passenger car. Any comments on this? Also in this photo is the only view I have ever seen of water tank car SN MW66. Why I didn't shoot this car in its?own right, and the SN flat cars that were with it, remains a great regret to me. Duh! But then I was only?a teenager. I was raised by depression-era midwesterners, and was in those days extremely parsimonious about film (later as a Coast Guard photojournalist I learned it is O.K. to blow a whole roll of film to get that one good shot). At least I got most of the car with the caboose. This photo is copyrighted for any further publication or distribution, but you are all welcome to save it for your private use. Yours Aye, Garth Groff |
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Re: Geez, watching paint dry...
That¡¯s what I love about the format. It doesn¡¯t get shut down if nobody has anything to share for a while. I have a lot of stuff ready to throw together for an awesome SN N-Scale layout from Woodland to West Sacramento and a little point to point very quickly but my kids are 11 and 16 and I work every spare day to keep their lives going. A lot of scratchbuilt stuff or kitbash was done while I was out of town with time to kill. Some trucks are modeled after my Dad¡¯s cattle truck or my uncle¡¯s. I worry Dad won¡¯t get to see it all together. There are twice as many kitbash vehicles as shown and whole variety of SN kitbash engines and cars, but I am out of town. You might recognize the Saxon Station, parts of the Ramon Ferry N-Scale, actual local crop dusters modeled after photos, cattle trucks from West Sac slaughter houses, an early Gould style SN caboose, traction engines, everything designed to fairly quickly switch between 1945 traction and 1971. I modeled some barns along the River Road.? Regards Justin On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 11:18 PM rrmaven <dan.shirleylee@...> wrote:
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Re: O&Aat the tunn5
Got to love the No Trespassing sign which reads: WARNING Any person trespassing in this tunnel is guilty of a misdemeanor is punishable by a fine not more than 500 imprisonment in jail not more than 30 days or by both such fine and imprisonment. Thank you for posting. Chris -----Original Message-----
From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2022 3:08 am Subject: Re: [SacNorthern] O&Aat the tunn5 Bill and friends,
This photo is printed backwards. The principal buildings at Eastport were located on the opposite side of the tracks and the curve is wrong. See page 32 of James Harrison's SACRAMENTO NORTHERN ALBUM for another photo taken from this spot.
Otherwise, the photo is taken from above the tunnel portal. The train is westbound (toward Oakland).
The building is Substation?#1, which at this time lacked the later cyclone roof vents. Because of the?heavy eastbound?grade, this was a twin installation with 11,000-volt AC, 60-cycle, 514-rpm, 3-phase synchronous motors producing 1080 horsepower. The motors drove 1200-volt DC interpole generators at 750 kilowatts, plus 19-kilowatt 124-volt exciters. Substation #1 was the only twin substation on the SN. It was automated by 1929. Unlike the North End substations, South End substations were not replaced by rotary convertors.
Photos at Eastport are pretty rare since this wasn't a public station. Though there was a road across the top of the tunnel portal, access to the buildings below was not apparently not easy (and was probably posted). The only photo I have in my collection is attached.
In 1913, the OA&E commissioned an unknown professional photographer to document the main features of their new toy shortly after opening. The oft-reproduced view of a passenger train on a bridge over Lake Temescal is the most often seen of his work (see Demoro, page 78). Bill's photo is too small to tell if this is one from that set, but OA&E?photos are pretty scarce.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff ??
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 3:26 AM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote:
Just picked this from Ebay. Perhaps Garth can weigh in with the details? ~Bill? |
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Re: O&Aat the tunn5
Bill and friends, This photo is printed backwards. The principal buildings at Eastport were located on the opposite side of the tracks and the curve is wrong. See page 32 of James Harrison's SACRAMENTO NORTHERN ALBUM for another photo taken from this spot. Otherwise, the photo is taken from above the tunnel portal. The train is westbound (toward Oakland). The building is Substation?#1, which at this time lacked the later cyclone roof vents. Because of the?heavy eastbound?grade, this was a twin installation with 11,000-volt AC, 60-cycle, 514-rpm, 3-phase synchronous motors producing 1080 horsepower. The motors drove 1200-volt DC interpole generators at 750 kilowatts, plus 19-kilowatt 124-volt exciters. Substation #1 was the only twin substation on the SN. It was automated by 1929. Unlike the North End substations, South End substations were not replaced by rotary convertors. Photos at Eastport are pretty rare since this wasn't a public station. Though there was a road across the top of the tunnel portal, access to the buildings below was not apparently not easy (and was probably posted). The only photo I have in my collection is attached. In 1913, the OA&E commissioned an unknown professional photographer to document the main features of their new toy shortly after opening. The oft-reproduced view of a passenger train on a bridge over Lake Temescal is the most often seen of his work (see Demoro, page 78). Bill's photo is too small to tell if this is one from that set, but OA&E?photos are pretty scarce. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 3:26 AM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote: Just picked this from Ebay. Perhaps Garth can weigh in with the details? ~Bill? |
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Fate of SN 141
Friends, Today's photos are two views of what was once SN 141. This locomotive was a trade-in to GE for 70-ton SN 202 in 1956.? After rebuilding by GE, the 44-tonner became Springfield Terminal 1. I found her in June 1996 stripped for part at Claremont, New Hampshire, on the near-by Claremont-Concord Railroad.? When I went back the next year, the locomotive was mercifully gone. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? |
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Re: 70 tonner
Friends, Although this is an SN group, since the question of Amador Central 8 was raised, I have posted two shots of this engine taken by my father in the 1960s. I was along on these trips, but my photos are in an unspectacular black-and-white. I do not know what became of this machine. Yours Aye, Garth Groff ?? On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:28 AM Bill Shippen <pitstopharold@...> wrote: The SN 70-ton unit that went to Canada is long scrapped. You may have shaved with it recently or it ended up as a mailbox or part of your car.? The Amador Central 44-ton not sure of; I thought she was sold off and turned to scrap? |
