On Dec 29, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Chris Bekiaris via groups.io <rrctb1@...> wrote:

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Sort of like downtown Pittsburg in the '40's and '50's what with Camp Stoneman.? Bar after bar. I moved here in 1951 as an eight year old.

Chris

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From: Ken Harstine <kharstin@...>
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Subject: Re: [SacNorthern] Video of Suisun City right of way 1940’s. Which railroad?

Suisun was probably more of an active port at that time. ?So the saloons come as no surprise to this ex sailer.

Ken Harstine

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On Dec 29, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Chris Bekiaris via groups.io <rrctb1@...> wrote:

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Priceless video.? Takes us back to a time we'll never see again.? Thank you.

Chris

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From: Daniel Levy <dlouislevy@...>
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Subject: Re: [SacNorthern] Video of Suisun City right of way 1940’s. Which railroad?

Great video! Anyone know when and why the entire east side of the street was demolished?

El El jue, dic. 29, 2022 a la(s) 12:23 p.m., Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> escribió:

Friends,?

I just took another run down the main street, and noted that there were at least seven saloons on the left, one on the right, plus a liquor store.

Yours Aye,

Garth ??

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 6:16 AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford via <mallardlodge1000=[email protected]> wrote:

Justin,

That's the SP. The SN didn't serve Suisun City. Note the water cranes at 6:12 and 6:36 on the second trip down the main street where the camera is pointing to the left. Too bad the depot is blocked by a street building at about 6:15.

AFAICT, the film cannot be any earlier than 1949. I spotted two vehicles that have possible dates: at 3:16 there is a GMC pick-up which appears to be about 1948+; at 3:20 there is a bullet-grille Ford that was introduced in 1949. The Chrysler that follows the camera is not a good time indicator, as the "egg crate" grille was used from 1946-48. Many of the vehicles are left-overs from the 1930s, which should not be a surprise given Depression economics and wartime suspension of civilian?vehicle production.

I agree that the color is somewhat off. The Flying A gas station sign should have been rendered in red. Still, the general colors are pretty convincing. Lots of dull grays and browns, yet many of the commercial buildings are white.

What struck me on the second pass was the large number of taverns, bars, clubs, saloons, or "drinking establishments" (to use Lucius Beebe's term)?crowded into something like two short blocks. Suisunian livers must have been thoroughly pickled.

Thanks for calling this piece to our attention. Very interesting, and very useful for modeling the early post-war years.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff ?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 3:33 AM Justin Rowe via <justingrowe=[email protected]> wrote:

Does anyone know whose right of way is shown here? I didn’t explore this area of California much. Amazing colorization of 1940’s video