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USCG proposal to remove markers off New England coast


 

A friend alerted me to a Coast Guard proposal to remove hundreds of navigational markers along the New England coast, including red/white checkered harbor entrance buoys, several buoys around Block Island, Stonington and Watch Hill, the Cape Cod Canal, Woods Hole, and well over 100 along the Maine coast. Apparently the markers would not be removed until next year sometime, but they are open to public comment until June 13.
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There is an independent website with a chart showing the proposed removals, information about the proposal, and how to submit comments here:
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I plan to submit comments and thought others might be interested as well.?
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-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT


 

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If you write a reply, keep in mind that channel and hazard markers are indeed critically important, but pure "navigational" buoys are mostly obsolete.? The test should be something like, "a marker is critical when someone should be looking at the markers and not have his/her head buried in a chart/plotter."? Arguing that we should keep everything risks losing the ones that are truly important.

Pulling the buoys in Woods Hole is nothing but nuts!

On 5/16/2025 1:32 PM, Jim Harman via groups.io wrote:
A friend alerted me to a Coast Guard proposal to remove hundreds of navigational markers along the New England coast, including red/white checkered harbor entrance buoys, several buoys around Block Island, Stonington and Watch Hill, the Cape Cod Canal, Woods Hole, and well over 100 along the Maine coast. Apparently the markers would not be removed until next year sometime, but they are open to public comment until June 13.
?
There is an independent website with a chart showing the proposed removals, information about the proposal, and how to submit comments here:
?
I plan to submit comments and thought others might be interested as well.?
--
-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
--
Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jim Starkey
Shearwater
SW42, earlier S36
Manchester, Mass


 

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I made the point that electronic navigation has too much that can go wrong. "The prudent navigator never relies on a single aid to navigation." Following (tl;dr) are my comments:

This public comment expresses strong concern about proposed discontinuation of numerous Aids to Navigation throughout District 1.

Background

I am co-owner of a recreational auxiliary sail boat, 40 feet LOA, Displ. 18,800 lb., home port Sippican Harbor, Marion MA. We ordinarily frequent coastal waters from Watch Hill, RI to Chatham MA, but include all of District 1 in our cruising range.?

The vessel is equipped with chart plotter, radar, AIS and depth sounder, as is common for vessels of her type and intended service. We navigate using all available aids to navigation, electronic and traditional, and keep paper charts aboard. Ordinarily, GNSS positioning via the chart plotter is our primary reference. We have waypoints covering all routes that we have used, and when we plan to visit a new destination, we set up waypoints and a route. Almost all of our waypoints are approximate locations of buoys.? We steer from waypoint to waypoint, using bearing and COG derived from GNSS before the buoy is in sight, then steer to it visually, cross-checking with the indicated position on the chart plotter and depth soundings. We also cross-check any other visual aids, such as ranges. When we are under sail to windward or downwind (and thus not able to sail the rhumb line), we use our plotted position including charted depth, the chart plotter's sailing features, and visual relative bearing to the waypoint to determine the layline.? In poor visibility, we augment the GNSS-derived bearing with radar. I believe this navigational routine to be prudent and appropriate for a recreational vessel of our size.

Our electrical system is basic and typical for our type and length, with no redundancy: one bank of four batteries for ordinary operational needs, plus a backup starter battery, and one alternator. All electronic navigation depends solely on this DC electrical system. We have one chart plotter. We also have mobile phones, but find that service is intermittent in places; we would not rely on them for safe passage.

In summary, visual Aids to Navigation are essential for safe operation of our vessel.

General Observations

The putative premise of proposed discontinuation of so many buoys is flawed. It is based on an assumption that GNSS, ENC and ECS can be a total substitute for visual sightings. This is false. It is said that the prudent mariner never relies on a single aid to navigation. Removing aids to navigation undercuts this principle: too much can go wrong.? Electronic navigation depends entirely on the integrity of GNSS, the vessel's electrical system, and at least one functioning chart plotter. Yet there is serious concern that hostile actors will jam or spoof GNSS systems; also the US DoD retains the ability to dilute precision of GPS for civilian users. Not only would loss of GNSS deprive all vessels of electronic positioning; it would also disable cellular networks (and thus smartphone applications), which critically depend on GPS for timing and synchronization.? Further, consumer-grade chart plotters do not have the redundancy required for ECDIS, are engineered for cost rather than reliability, are frequently exposed to the weather, and are operated at ambient temperatures outside the Max/Min Temperature parameters of their components. DC electrical systems on smaller vessels are not redundant and have multiple single points of failure. Lightning strikes are a hazard, especially to sailboats, and can destroy all electronic devices onboard. Cellular coverage is incomplete, including many inshore areas, and navigation apps depend on connectivity to retrieve cartography. Finally, electronic navigation is subject to human error. In summary, primary navigation using GNSS and ECS is great but not highly reliable, and MUST be backed up with traditional methods for a reasonable margin of safety.?

Several proposed changes would remove alternating red and green buoys from a pair marking a channel. This is a false economy. Helmsmen need both to visualize the edges of the channel, particularly when keeping clear of a large vessel.

The process (or lack of one) is a serious problem. Ordinarily, the Coast Guard discontinues a few AtoN on occasion, after proper studies and public engagement well in advance of required notice in the LNM. ? The timing and scope of this project strongly suggest that it is motivated by political pressure to cut expenses, regardless of potential consequences. It is shameful that DHS would order such hasty and heedless action at the expense of safety (and probably against the better judgement of USCG careerists).

Below are comments on proposed changes in some of the areas that I know well. They should be taken as examples. Many other proposed discontinuations would be equally ill-advised, and by highlighting these I by no means depricate the importance of others.

Woods Hole Passage

Woods Hole is the primary entry to Vineyard Sound and Nantucket Sound from Buzzards Bay and the Cape Cod Canal. It is heavily trafficked by recreational vessels in season, some throwing wakes and/or operating at excessive speeds. A mariner unfamiliar with these waters would inevitably be disoriented upon entering the passage from either direction. The channels that appear as "Broadway" and "The Straight" on the charts are narrow, and surrounded by rocks. Currents peak at 4.4 kts or more, uncomfortably close to the maximum speed of a smaller auxiliary.? I consider Woods Hole Passage to be the most dangerous area of our cruising grounds, and even after hundreds of transits, treat it with utmost respect.

The turn from The Straight to Broadway is particularly hazardous as the head current becomes a cross current with the turn.?Eastbound, buoy G'5' marks the start of that turn, critically on a strong flood current.? In season, groundings on Middle Ledge occur about once a week because confused helmsmen try to pass to the wrong side of G'5'; removing it would make these occurrences more frequent. R'4A' is an important visual reference for judging side-slip toward the edge of the channel and provides a visual assist for judging the current. G'7' delineates the edge of the channel as the vessel makes the turn from the northern branch. Westbound in flood current, R'2', R'2A' and R'4' together form a visual reference for the eastern edge of the channel. Eastbound, R'8' and R'6' form a range and provide an initial visual reference for the current. G'11' and G'13' are major waypoints and visual references for passage to Woods Hole from Buzzards Bay. Similarly, Nobska Point Lighted Bell is the primary visual aid for navigating from West Chop to the eastern channel.

Buzzards Bay

Frequent tugs with barge in tow in the shipping channel are a hazard to small, slower vessels. AIS has been a great help, but in case of failure (or as a cross-check), the helmsman must judge the width of the channel in order to decide how best to keep clear. This is a case where removing either buoy of a red-green pair presents a navigational challenge.

Felix Ledge G'3' (Quicks Hole) marks an isolated rock. Safe passage from the North from Lone Rock G'LR' can be had by visually splitting the distance between G'3' and R'2'. The current runs strong, and visual reference to any side slip is necessary.

New Bedford SE approach buoy R'2SE' marks safe water to the south of a reef extending from West Island. For vessels transiting between New Bedford or Padanarum and Mattapoisett, Marion, Wareham, or the Cape Cod Canal, it marks a course change, making it a primary visual aid.

New Bedford SW approach buoy Fl.R'8' Bell marks a waypoint on the route to Padanarum from the south, or from the east under sail in prevailing southwest winds. It lines up with Middle Ledge RG'AB' Fl.R Gong to form a range on the approach to Padanarum.

Cuttyhunk fairway buoy RW'CH' is the main visual aid marking the entrance to Cuttyhunk Harbor. While we usually use G'1E' as our electronic waypoint, the fairway buoy would be essential if we had to navigate visually to Cuttyhunk from Buzzards Bay.

Westport Harbor is marginal for us because of depth. If we were to go there, Westport Harbor Entrance Lighted Bell G'1' would be an essential waypoint for lining up with the channel and avoiding the ledge to the northwest.

Vineyard Sound

Squash Meadow East End Bell Buoy and Squash Meadow West End bifurcation buoy mark a hazardous reef and no-go zone between them.

The two red buoys southwest of Sow and Pigs reef mark a notorious patch of water, the site of many shipwrecks. Eldridge explained how the set of the current draws vessels into the rocks. Any vessel navigating visually is at risk, particularly if they are not aware of Eldridge's? advice.

Nantucket Sound

Tuckernuck Shoal buoy G'3'and Cross Rip Shoal South End buoy are critical primary visual waypoints for the route from Nantucket to Martha's Vineyard and Woods Hole. We use them to check our progress and course, and would need them if unable to use ECS.

Every season, a few boats run aground on the Nantucket breakwater. Frequent ferries make the narrow channel hazardous to slow-moving recreational vessels.? Nantucket Harbor channel buoy G'1' is essential to lining up a vessel navigating visually to the channel approaching from the North, since the range at Coast Guard Station Nantucket is not visible from there without binoculars. Northbound, it marks edge of the channel, and we steer to it to keep clear of ferries and other faster vessels using the middle of the channel.

The approach to Hyannis Harbor is tricky to navigate because of all the rocks, particularly Bishop and Clerks. The buoyage system there gives the navigator several options for passage between them.

Chatham Roads Bell G'3' and particularly Stage Harbor entrance lighted bell R'SH' help the navigator line up their vessel to the narrow entrance to Stage Harbor.

Block Island Sound

Fl.R'2' is a primary visual marker along several routes between New Harbor, Block Island and points north and east.

Between Fishers Island and Watch Hill, RI

The passage from Rhode Island Sound to Fishers Island Sound is another route that I treat with extra respect. I consider it poorly marked as it is. The passages between sections of reef are narrow and through shallow water, and the current is strong. Watch Hill GR'WH' marks a shallow that is not a serious problem for our draft, but which I would avoid in inclement weather. I would not ordinarily choose to use Catumb Passage but the line between G'3C' and G'1C' is navigable if necessary. Lords Passage is a preferred alternative to Watch Hill Passage, as RW'L' lighted whistle, G'7' and R'2L' mark a triangle of relatively deep water.? Wicopesset Rock G'1' marks an isolated rock that is a hazard on the route to East Harbor Fishers Island from the east, and G'7' and G'9' are part of a string of green buoys marking that route and the unsafe water to the south. Stonington Harbor Channel R'1' and G'3' mark safe passage into Stonington, as well as isolated rocks.



On 5/16/2025 2:02 PM, Jim Starkey wrote:

If you write a reply, keep in mind that channel and hazard markers are indeed critically important, but pure "navigational" buoys are mostly obsolete.? The test should be something like, "a marker is critical when someone should be looking at the markers and not have his/her head buried in a chart/plotter."? Arguing that we should keep everything risks losing the ones that are truly important.

Pulling the buoys in Woods Hole is nothing but nuts!

On 5/16/2025 1:32 PM, Jim Harman via groups.io wrote:
A friend alerted me to a Coast Guard proposal to remove hundreds of navigational markers along the New England coast, including red/white checkered harbor entrance buoys, several buoys around Block Island, Stonington and Watch Hill, the Cape Cod Canal, Woods Hole, and well over 100 along the Maine coast. Apparently the markers would not be removed until next year sometime, but they are open to public comment until June 13.
?
There is an independent website with a chart showing the proposed removals, information about the proposal, and how to submit comments here:
?
I plan to submit comments and thought others might be interested as well.?
--
-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
--
Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

--
Jim Starkey
Shearwater
SW42, earlier S36
Manchester, Mass



 

Thanks Dan, your narrative is spot on and very useful.


On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 2:21?PM Dan Grossman via <ldg004=[email protected]> wrote:
I made the point that electronic navigation has too much that can go wrong. "The prudent navigator never relies on a single aid to navigation." Following (tl;dr) are my comments:

This public comment expresses strong concern about proposed discontinuation of numerous Aids to Navigation throughout District 1.

Background

I am co-owner of a recreational auxiliary sail boat, 40 feet LOA, Displ. 18,800 lb., home port Sippican Harbor, Marion MA. We ordinarily frequent coastal waters from Watch Hill, RI to Chatham MA, but include all of District 1 in our cruising range.?

The vessel is equipped with chart plotter, radar, AIS and depth sounder, as is common for vessels of her type and intended service. We navigate using all available aids to navigation, electronic and traditional, and keep paper charts aboard. Ordinarily, GNSS positioning via the chart plotter is our primary reference. We have waypoints covering all routes that we have used, and when we plan to visit a new destination, we set up waypoints and a route. Almost all of our waypoints are approximate locations of buoys.? We steer from waypoint to waypoint, using bearing and COG derived from GNSS before the buoy is in sight, then steer to it visually, cross-checking with the indicated position on the chart plotter and depth soundings. We also cross-check any other visual aids, such as ranges. When we are under sail to windward or downwind (and thus not able to sail the rhumb line), we use our plotted position including charted depth, the chart plotter's sailing features, and visual relative bearing to the waypoint to determine the layline.? In poor visibility, we augment the GNSS-derived bearing with radar. I believe this navigational routine to be prudent and appropriate for a recreational vessel of our size.

Our electrical system is basic and typical for our type and length, with no redundancy: one bank of four batteries for ordinary operational needs, plus a backup starter battery, and one alternator. All electronic navigation depends solely on this DC electrical system. We have one chart plotter. We also have mobile phones, but find that service is intermittent in places; we would not rely on them for safe passage.

In summary, visual Aids to Navigation are essential for safe operation of our vessel.

General Observations

The putative premise of proposed discontinuation of so many buoys is flawed. It is based on an assumption that GNSS, ENC and ECS can be a total substitute for visual sightings. This is false. It is said that the prudent mariner never relies on a single aid to navigation. Removing aids to navigation undercuts this principle: too much can go wrong.? Electronic navigation depends entirely on the integrity of GNSS, the vessel's electrical system, and at least one functioning chart plotter. Yet there is serious concern that hostile actors will jam or spoof GNSS systems; also the US DoD retains the ability to dilute precision of GPS for civilian users. Not only would loss of GNSS deprive all vessels of electronic positioning; it would also disable cellular networks (and thus smartphone applications), which critically depend on GPS for timing and synchronization.? Further, consumer-grade chart plotters do not have the redundancy required for ECDIS, are engineered for cost rather than reliability, are frequently exposed to the weather, and are operated at ambient temperatures outside the Max/Min Temperature parameters of their components. DC electrical systems on smaller vessels are not redundant and have multiple single points of failure. Lightning strikes are a hazard, especially to sailboats, and can destroy all electronic devices onboard. Cellular coverage is incomplete, including many inshore areas, and navigation apps depend on connectivity to retrieve cartography. Finally, electronic navigation is subject to human error. In summary, primary navigation using GNSS and ECS is great but not highly reliable, and MUST be backed up with traditional methods for a reasonable margin of safety.?

Several proposed changes would remove alternating red and green buoys from a pair marking a channel. This is a false economy. Helmsmen need both to visualize the edges of the channel, particularly when keeping clear of a large vessel.

The process (or lack of one) is a serious problem. Ordinarily, the Coast Guard discontinues a few AtoN on occasion, after proper studies and public engagement well in advance of required notice in the LNM. ? The timing and scope of this project strongly suggest that it is motivated by political pressure to cut expenses, regardless of potential consequences. It is shameful that DHS would order such hasty and heedless action at the expense of safety (and probably against the better judgement of USCG careerists).

Below are comments on proposed changes in some of the areas that I know well. They should be taken as examples. Many other proposed discontinuations would be equally ill-advised, and by highlighting these I by no means depricate the importance of others.

Woods Hole Passage

Woods Hole is the primary entry to Vineyard Sound and Nantucket Sound from Buzzards Bay and the Cape Cod Canal. It is heavily trafficked by recreational vessels in season, some throwing wakes and/or operating at excessive speeds. A mariner unfamiliar with these waters would inevitably be disoriented upon entering the passage from either direction. The channels that appear as "Broadway" and "The Straight" on the charts are narrow, and surrounded by rocks. Currents peak at 4.4 kts or more, uncomfortably close to the maximum speed of a smaller auxiliary.? I consider Woods Hole Passage to be the most dangerous area of our cruising grounds, and even after hundreds of transits, treat it with utmost respect.

The turn from The Straight to Broadway is particularly hazardous as the head current becomes a cross current with the turn.?Eastbound, buoy G'5' marks the start of that turn, critically on a strong flood current.? In season, groundings on Middle Ledge occur about once a week because confused helmsmen try to pass to the wrong side of G'5'; removing it would make these occurrences more frequent. R'4A' is an important visual reference for judging side-slip toward the edge of the channel and provides a visual assist for judging the current. G'7' delineates the edge of the channel as the vessel makes the turn from the northern branch. Westbound in flood current, R'2', R'2A' and R'4' together form a visual reference for the eastern edge of the channel. Eastbound, R'8' and R'6' form a range and provide an initial visual reference for the current. G'11' and G'13' are major waypoints and visual references for passage to Woods Hole from Buzzards Bay. Similarly, Nobska Point Lighted Bell is the primary visual aid for navigating from West Chop to the eastern channel.

Buzzards Bay

Frequent tugs with barge in tow in the shipping channel are a hazard to small, slower vessels. AIS has been a great help, but in case of failure (or as a cross-check), the helmsman must judge the width of the channel in order to decide how best to keep clear. This is a case where removing either buoy of a red-green pair presents a navigational challenge.

Felix Ledge G'3' (Quicks Hole) marks an isolated rock. Safe passage from the North from Lone Rock G'LR' can be had by visually splitting the distance between G'3' and R'2'. The current runs strong, and visual reference to any side slip is necessary.

New Bedford SE approach buoy R'2SE' marks safe water to the south of a reef extending from West Island. For vessels transiting between New Bedford or Padanarum and Mattapoisett, Marion, Wareham, or the Cape Cod Canal, it marks a course change, making it a primary visual aid.

New Bedford SW approach buoy Fl.R'8' Bell marks a waypoint on the route to Padanarum from the south, or from the east under sail in prevailing southwest winds. It lines up with Middle Ledge RG'AB' Fl.R Gong to form a range on the approach to Padanarum.

Cuttyhunk fairway buoy RW'CH' is the main visual aid marking the entrance to Cuttyhunk Harbor. While we usually use G'1E' as our electronic waypoint, the fairway buoy would be essential if we had to navigate visually to Cuttyhunk from Buzzards Bay.

Westport Harbor is marginal for us because of depth. If we were to go there, Westport Harbor Entrance Lighted Bell G'1' would be an essential waypoint for lining up with the channel and avoiding the ledge to the northwest.

Vineyard Sound

Squash Meadow East End Bell Buoy and Squash Meadow West End bifurcation buoy mark a hazardous reef and no-go zone between them.

The two red buoys southwest of Sow and Pigs reef mark a notorious patch of water, the site of many shipwrecks. Eldridge explained how the set of the current draws vessels into the rocks. Any vessel navigating visually is at risk, particularly if they are not aware of Eldridge's? advice.

Nantucket Sound

Tuckernuck Shoal buoy G'3'and Cross Rip Shoal South End buoy are critical primary visual waypoints for the route from Nantucket to Martha's Vineyard and Woods Hole. We use them to check our progress and course, and would need them if unable to use ECS.

Every season, a few boats run aground on the Nantucket breakwater. Frequent ferries make the narrow channel hazardous to slow-moving recreational vessels.? Nantucket Harbor channel buoy G'1' is essential to lining up a vessel navigating visually to the channel approaching from the North, since the range at Coast Guard Station Nantucket is not visible from there without binoculars. Northbound, it marks edge of the channel, and we steer to it to keep clear of ferries and other faster vessels using the middle of the channel.

The approach to Hyannis Harbor is tricky to navigate because of all the rocks, particularly Bishop and Clerks. The buoyage system there gives the navigator several options for passage between them.

Chatham Roads Bell G'3' and particularly Stage Harbor entrance lighted bell R'SH' help the navigator line up their vessel to the narrow entrance to Stage Harbor.

Block Island Sound

Fl.R'2' is a primary visual marker along several routes between New Harbor, Block Island and points north and east.

Between Fishers Island and Watch Hill, RI

The passage from Rhode Island Sound to Fishers Island Sound is another route that I treat with extra respect. I consider it poorly marked as it is. The passages between sections of reef are narrow and through shallow water, and the current is strong. Watch Hill GR'WH' marks a shallow that is not a serious problem for our draft, but which I would avoid in inclement weather. I would not ordinarily choose to use Catumb Passage but the line between G'3C' and G'1C' is navigable if necessary. Lords Passage is a preferred alternative to Watch Hill Passage, as RW'L' lighted whistle, G'7' and R'2L' mark a triangle of relatively deep water.? Wicopesset Rock G'1' marks an isolated rock that is a hazard on the route to East Harbor Fishers Island from the east, and G'7' and G'9' are part of a string of green buoys marking that route and the unsafe water to the south. Stonington Harbor Channel R'1' and G'3' mark safe passage into Stonington, as well as isolated rocks.


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--Jim Harman


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-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT


 

Sounds like the red / white clear water buoys and ones that are redundant.... they were set up so you could dead recon with a compass in the thick ?fog , be off and hear them ring to get to .. take a compass shot in a practical but not ideal line ... they are modernizing to better work with modern navigation... good thing?

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 1:32?PM Jim Harman via <j99harman=[email protected]> wrote:
A friend alerted me to a Coast Guard proposal to remove hundreds of navigational markers along the New England coast, including red/white checkered harbor entrance buoys, several buoys around Block Island, Stonington and Watch Hill, the Cape Cod Canal, Woods Hole, and well over 100 along the Maine coast. Apparently the markers would not be removed until next year sometime, but they are open to public comment until June 13.
?
There is an independent website with a chart showing the proposed removals, information about the proposal, and how to submit comments here:
?
I plan to submit comments and thought others might be interested as well.?
--
-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT


 

As a matter of nostalgia, I can¡¯t count the number of times an Mo(A) has saved my sorry ass after a long DR in the fog to find the opening to a nasty passage or any harbor entrance for that matter. Even with GPS I want to confirm approach before aiming for Wicopesset or Lords Passage.?

Not sure how applicable it is to this conversation but may illustrate importance of the Woods Hole marks. I believe the 1972 ?the NYYC cruise left from Newport for an event to the Islands, a couple days racing up Buzzards Bay to Hadley Harbor. The fleet fit fine it was a lovely evening and the morning dawned bright and clear. The committee boat signaled harbor start and 106 boats started weighing anchors and proceeding towards and through Woods Hole to a starting area in Vineyard Sound. The tide was fair¡­., very fair, at or near max. We soon realized, our skipper particularly, that there was nothing to see but boats ahead of us and all around us for that matter. Soon there was lots of screaming, boats zinging and zagging, arms waving in all directions, just total frightening chaos. Then the sounds of keels on rocks. Skippy steered towards the middle of the bedlam. When we did see a mark you couldn¡¯t look back to get a baring, situational awareness was just a concept at this point. Some how we and most of the fleet squirted out the other side unscathed however IIRC something like 13 boats piled up. I don¡¯t recall the extent of damage. Somehow the incident faded from memory quickly, but I¡¯ve gone through there at max (as one of few boats) and it¡¯s a chore as probably most of you know. How would you pull that off with less buoys? Looking at a GPS? That is no place for virtual piloting.
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Peter Metcalf
Pfmet@...
Sabre 28 #312 Serenade
Noank, CT