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keel bolts and hatch covers


 

Hi

I have been advised to retorque my keel bolts.? I have located a torque wrench but am not too sure as to how to proceed.? Any?suggestions?

I also have a problem with the large hatch cover over the V berth.? I cannot get it to stay open.? everything seem to be in proper order but no matter how hard I twist the knobs the hatch will not stay open except when it is fully open.? I took the knobs from the two little used hatch covers midships and tried them to no avail. Once again, any suggestions?

Best
Tom? Wanderer
Celebration
Sabre 38 mk 1



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Thomas Wanderer
Sabre 38 Celebration


 

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250 lbs?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:24?PM, Tom via groups.io <thomas.wanderer49@...> wrote:

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Hi

I have been advised to retorque my keel bolts.? I have located a torque wrench but am not too sure as to how to proceed.? Any?suggestions?

I also have a problem with the large hatch cover over the V berth.? I cannot get it to stay open.? everything seem to be in proper order but no matter how hard I twist the knobs the hatch will not stay open except when it is fully open.? I took the knobs from the two little used hatch covers midships and tried them to no avail. Once again, any suggestions?

Best
Tom? Wanderer
Celebration
Sabre 38 mk 1



--
Thomas Wanderer
Sabre 38 Celebration


 

Check the owners manual or contact Sabre. On my 1986 S32 it’s 90 ft-lbs.? Boat needs to be out of the water.?

Dave Castor?
Port Angeles, Wash
1986 S32

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 4:29?PM Joel Greenfield via <jgz108=[email protected]> wrote:
250 lbs?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:24?PM, Tom via <thomas.wanderer49=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi

I have been advised to retorque my keel bolts.? I have located a torque wrench but am not too sure as to how to proceed.? Any?suggestions?

I also have a problem with the large hatch cover over the V berth.? I cannot get it to stay open.? everything seem to be in proper order but no matter how hard I twist the knobs the hatch will not stay open except when it is fully open.? I took the knobs from the two little used hatch covers midships and tried them to no avail. Once again, any suggestions?

Best
Tom? Wanderer
Celebration
Sabre 38 mk 1



--
Thomas Wanderer
Sabre 38 Celebration


 

If you have the Bowmar hatches I had that issue... you need to buy new hatch riser arms....I had to tap and die the bolts out .. major pain ... but ... when I pulled off the hatch riser arms ahead of getting a new set shipped I used one of the mast wedges to keep it open for a bit ....I found that it was handy when I was solo sailing to close the hatch under way when I was up on the fore deck ..just kicked it out and closed the hatch ..... I use them now with the arms unlocked from time to time so I can drop them without going?below ... you have to go down at some point to tighten them under way so the sheet does not lift them ... it's a hack for sure but sticking a mast wedge in it will buy you some time .... I find it handy as I solo sail often?


On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 5:24?PM Tom via <thomas.wanderer49=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi

I have been advised to retorque my keel bolts.? I have located a torque wrench but am not too sure as to how to proceed.? Any?suggestions?

I also have a problem with the large hatch cover over the V berth.? I cannot get it to stay open.? everything seem to be in proper order but no matter how hard I twist the knobs the hatch will not stay open except when it is fully open.? I took the knobs from the two little used hatch covers midships and tried them to no avail. Once again, any suggestions?

Best
Tom? Wanderer
Celebration
Sabre 38 mk 1



--
Thomas Wanderer
Sabre 38 Celebration


 

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What the other Dave said, 90 ft lbs and out of the water. Plan on using deep sockets. The bolts will withstand greater torque however the lead and fiberglass in the middle won’t be that happy.


Dave
Second Star
S362 #113
Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario

On Mar 11, 2025, at 7:33?PM, David Castor via groups.io <dpcastor@...> wrote:

Check the owners manual or contact Sabre. On my 1986 S32 it’s 90 ft-lbs.? Boat needs to be out of the water.?

Dave Castor?
Port Angeles, Wash
1986 S32

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 4:29?PM Joel Greenfield via <jgz108=[email protected]> wrote:
250 lbs?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:24?PM, Tom via <thomas.wanderer49=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi

I have been advised to retorque my keel bolts.? I have located a torque wrench but am not too sure as to how to proceed.? Any?suggestions?

I also have a problem with the large hatch cover over the V berth.? I cannot get it to stay open.? everything seem to be in proper order but no matter how hard I twist the knobs the hatch will not stay open except when it is fully open.? I took the knobs from the two little used hatch covers midships and tried them to no avail. Once again, any suggestions?

Best
Tom? Wanderer
Celebration
Sabre 38 mk 1



--
Thomas Wanderer
Sabre 38 Celebration




 

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Yes. Not hanging but blocked. With keel supported correct ??


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On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:46?PM, David Lochner via groups.io <davelochner@...> wrote:

?What the other Dave said, 90 ft lbs and out of the water. Plan on using deep sockets. The bolts will withstand greater torque however the lead and fiberglass in the middle won’t be that happy.


Dave
Second Star
S362 #113
Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario

On Mar 11, 2025, at 7:33?PM, David Castor via groups.io <dpcastor@...> wrote:

Check the owners manual or contact Sabre. On my 1986 S32 it’s 90 ft-lbs.? Boat needs to be out of the water.?

Dave Castor?
Port Angeles, Wash
1986 S32

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 4:29?PM Joel Greenfield via <jgz108=[email protected]> wrote:
250 lbs?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:24?PM, Tom via <thomas.wanderer49=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi

I have been advised to retorque my keel bolts.? I have located a torque wrench but am not too sure as to how to proceed.? Any?suggestions?

I also have a problem with the large hatch cover over the V berth.? I cannot get it to stay open.? everything seem to be in proper order but no matter how hard I twist the knobs the hatch will not stay open except when it is fully open.? I took the knobs from the two little used hatch covers midships and tried them to no avail. Once again, any suggestions?

Best
Tom? Wanderer
Celebration
Sabre 38 mk 1



--
Thomas Wanderer
Sabre 38 Celebration




 

Tony is correct.? Will keel supported.
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Regarding the hatch.? Make sure the threads are clean on both the knob and the arm.? Maybe you are not actually tightening the knob against the rod because the threads are corroded.? Once I cleaned mine I have had no problems with them holding up the hatch.?
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Best
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Foster
1987 Sabre 42 C/B
Hull #17


 

Check with Sabre on torque - I believe 250 ft-lbs will crush the glass.
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Tim R
38MKII in refit?


 

My 34 is 90 lbs as well. Make sure it's on the hard if you're going to remove the nuts from the bolts. You may also consider installing larger washers to better distribute the load.
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Robert
s/v Valinor
Sabre 34 Mark I #207
New Bern, NC


 

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All the Sabres have the same recommendation for keel bolt torque, remember that’s only when on the hard and the keel fully blocked.
Len Bertaux

On Mar 12, 2025, at 8:29?AM, knightinnc via groups.io <Robertjohnknight@...> wrote:

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My 34 is 90 lbs as well. Make sure it's on the hard if you're going to remove the nuts from the bolts. You may also consider installing larger washers to better distribute the load.
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Robert
s/v Valinor
Sabre 34 Mark I #207
New Bern, NC


 

Good idea.? Thanks.??

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Rick McLaren
34-2 Polaris?


 

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Once, when I unscrewed a hatch knob all the way out, a small spherical bead fell out. The knob locked the hatch much better when the bead was in place. Don’t know if it was OEM.?
Steve?
Wind Rush II
厂38–1


On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Richard McLaren; S34-2 Polaris; Chicago via groups.io <mclarenR17@...> wrote:

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Good idea.? Thanks.??

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Rick McLaren
34-2 Polaris?