Thats ?correct,.?
However as noted the messaging works now.?
So this a great and viable alternative and additional comm method w/o the cost, hassle, and huge power reqts of Musk¡¯s network.?
So I dont care what they are doing their. Its cheap hardware and there will be contention.
I will never buy a product from that ______ !
I spent my career in the mobile business.?
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On May 17, 2025, at 12:40?PM, Dan Grossman via groups.io <ldg004@...> wrote:
Not quite. The capability to use a mobile phone (rather than a Starlink terminal) using spectrum licensed to mobile carriers is new. That¡¯s not the same as the established Starlink service. Space-X (working with T-Mobile) had to equip the current generation Starlink satellites with purpose-built transponders and antennas as a separate payload for the service. They started launching V2 mini satellites in 2023, and there aren¡¯t yet enough of them on orbit to provide 24/7 coverage but enough for them to start what amounts to commercial trials. It goes fully live later this year. T-Mobile has a long blog posting about it on their website.
AST, as I understand it, is purpose-built for direct-to-cell using mobile frequency bands. They had enough satellites on orbit in early April to do a limited demonstration with AT&T, but not enough for 24/7 service across North America. I vaguely recollect that AT&T and Verizon say they will open commercial service in December.?
On May 17, 2025, at 12:53, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
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It already works for messaging.?
That¡¯s what this is. ?
Soon AST will be up and that will provide voice and data.?
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On May 17, 2025, at 9:47?AM, Dan Grossman via groups.io <ldg004@...> wrote:
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I wouldn¡¯t count on any of it this season. If I recall correctly, T-Mobile is in beta test with StarLiink, and there aren¡¯t enough V2 mini satellites on orbit yet that have direct-to-cell transponders. VZ and AT&T just had their first public announcements and successful field tests with AST Spacemobile, which has not yet launched enough satellites for complete coverage; commercial service is months off. Last I saw, iPhone/Globalstar only supported E911 messaging; I¡¯m far more comfortable with DSC and a 409 MHz EPIRB.
Next year it should get interesting.
On May 17, 2025, at 09:42, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
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Oops. 13 and above.?
About carrier-provided satellite features on iPhone
There are multiple ways to stay connected on iPhone while you're off the grid with no traditional cellular or Wi-Fi coverage. With iPhone 14 or later (all models), Apple provides satellite features, in partnership with Globalstar1, to help you text emergency services, request roadside assistance, message friends and family, and share your location.?.
Some carriers have enhanced their cellular network with satellites enabled by partnerships they have established with satellite providers, like Starlink.
Before you go off the grid, check that your iPhone can benefit from carrier-provided satellite features. You need:
iPhone 13, iPhone 14, iPhone 15, or iPhone 16 (all models)
The latest version of iOS
Some carriers might require a supported cellular plan
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On May 17, 2025, at 6:41?AM, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
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Wow. ?This is great news.?
Satellite messaging support for iPhones 14 and above.?
https://support.apple.com/en-us/122339
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