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Re: Alternatives to Starlink


 

Jim
Thanks for the analysis of Starlink's advantage. I had not thought about it before but you are spot on. It's not the hardware or software but the cheap (relatively) reusable and reliable delivery system, which has shown advantages well beyond satellite internet.
Having worked at major hospitals, I also agree with Velina's analogy. I have met brilliant surgeons who are arrogant and obnoxious and others, who were equally brilliant, but humble and gracious. I'll add that since you will be unconcious. their personality or lack thereof doesn't matter unless it interferes with the functionality of their team. Otherwise, only their results matter.??
Pete



On February 27, 2025, at 10:40 AM, "Jim Starkey via groups.io" <Jim@...> wrote:


Lets us not forget that Iridium went bankrupt, which wiped out the $4 billion in debt for startup expenses.? It was bought out of bankruptcy for $25 million.? It announced it was going to de-orbit the constellation but didn't.

What makes Starlink viable SpaceX's very inexpensive launches.? But what makes SpaceX's launches so cheap with reusable rockets.? And what makes the rockets reusable is a family of throttleable liquid fuel engine, which is quite a difficult trick of engineering.

A satellite constellation dependent on non-reusable booster will never be able to compete economically with Starlink.? Don't hold your breath waiting.

Musk didn't invent any of this -- or any of the other technologies in his companies.? He hires damn smart people, gives them minimal funding, and holds their feet to the fire.? He does get in deep enough to understand that critical problems and the possible pathways to solutions then makes his bets.

No matter what you think of Musk, Starlink is human civilization game changer.? It provides communication to remote regions and rural areas, provides instant communications to disaster areas, and without which the Ukrainian army would have collapsed years ago.

On 2/27/2025 12:19 AM, Dan Grossman via wrote:
Iridium. Teledesic never left the drawing board. And a lot of Iridium technology came from national security progams that pioneered LEO satellites.?

On Feb 26, 2025, at 19:58, Tony Billera via <tony.billera@...> wrote:

? Musk was not the first w the idea. ?

Teledesic developed this concept years ago. Costs have declined. ?

Eventually Starlink will run into congestion and rate increases.?

It¡¯s throw away equipment.?

I comprehend the benefits for live and work aboard while cruising. ?I¡¯m more interested in the ubiquitous coverage of AST Mobile that will soon be available. ?


Tony

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On Feb 26, 2025, at 4:19?PM, Pete Waterson via <peterjwaterson@...> wrote:

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As an emigre I try to keep a tight rein on political opinion, but by the sounds of this thread there is an awful lot of buyers remorse going around right now.
It is the Information Age and Musk has revolutionized access to the Internet. I just wish engineers would stick to engineering!
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