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I have mostly pulled back from engaging the “other scales” about S. They are almost definitely not going to change. I currently have 214 locos 860 freight cars and 160 passenger cars. I missed the email that there is “nothing made in S Scale”.

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People find me once every year+ that are about to cross over I just seal the deal. Those are the people I spend the time with.

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Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

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I have always felt myself to be "S".? ? I went through a phase in college when I tried "HO" but I wasn't comfortable. I have friends who are into the "O" scene but its not for me.

Andrew Parker

On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 04:04:10 PM PDT, Bill Lane via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:

I have mostly pulled back from engaging the “other scales” about S. They are almost definitely not going to change. I currently have 214 locos 860 freight cars and 160 passenger cars. I missed the email that there is “nothing made in S Scale”.

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People find me once every year+ that are about to cross over I just seal the deal. Those are the people I spend the time with.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

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See my layout progress at:

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On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 04:04 PM, Bill Lane wrote:

I missed the email that there is “nothing made in S Scale”.

It's not so much that nothing is made, it's that it's not really available.? While I don't have an inventory comparable to Bill's, it's an accumulation gathered over the past 30 or so years.? Probably less than 3% was purchased NEW in the past few years and most of those were club cars.?

Rich G(ajnak)

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Rich

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I would have to give significant thought to what pieces were - but most of my original brass and SHS purchases were new. Opening a box of new brass really had a SMELL to it. It is was an awesome smell too.

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It is all a bit blurry now. And pretty much everything bought now would be considered used.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

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See my layout progress at:

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Bill, that's pretty much my point.? New and available is in the past for the most part.? What was new and available 10, 20, 30 years ago is no longer relevant to today's person considering S.

Rich G(ajnak)

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Rich, I take your point, but let's say someone wants to buy a new brass steam locomotive in HO these days? There are none to be found new. The new breed of plastic-and-diecast steam locomotives look to be fine models, but the prototypes offered are generally limited to the perennial favorites everyone likes--Big Boys, Challengers, Niagaras, Hudsons, K4s., USRA mikes, et al.? ?

Brian Jackson
Springfield, IL

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On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 07:11 AM, Brian Jackson wrote:

Rich, I take your point, but let's say someone wants to buy a new brass steam locomotive in HO these days? There are none to be found new.

You'd have to take that up with the surviving HO brass builders.

It's certainly that's not going to be an incentive for those HO folks to switch to S, is it?? After all, S has such a readily available w-i-d-e selection of brass to choose from.? Last I looked P-B-L is the last S brass importer standing and their products are 99.99% narrow gauge.?

Rich G(ajnak)

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In the HO brass world, there ARE new engines being produced.now and then.? Division Point is an example.? However, the target market would seem to pretty clearly be collectors.? For example, their recent Southern Pacific cab forwards sold for about $4,000.? If you want a brand-new HO scale Northern Pacific 0-6-0, you are in luck.? You can pre-order one for late 2024 delivery.? The price is a mere $1,895.00.? But if you don't have to have the L-5, you can get W&R L-6, 7, 9, or 10 from the fairly recent, but now gone, W&R Enterprises for about $1200 or an old PFM L-9 for about $200.? So even in that little niche, it doesn't matter much if anything new comes out.

But unlike S, there is a vast and varied stock of used HO Brass always on the market.? Everything from the 1950's to 1970's rather good and fairly durable PFM, Westside, et. al. to the later more delicately detailed and fragile ones.? It's really not very important that there be "new" HO brass offerings.? They are scarcely needed.? Who needs yet another Big Boy offering - except a collector and that is really the market now.? It does seem like there are a lot of new offerings in the HO passenger car area, however.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 10:19:59 AM PDT, Rich Gajnak <rustytraque@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 07:11 AM, Brian Jackson wrote:

Rich, I take your point, but let's say someone wants to buy a new brass steam locomotive in HO these days? There are none to be found new.

You'd have to take that up with the surviving HO brass builders.

It's certainly that's not going to be an incentive for those HO folks to switch to S, is it?? After all, S has such a readily available w-i-d-e selection of brass to choose from.? Last I looked P-B-L is the last S brass importer standing and their products are 99.99% narrow gauge.?

Rich G(ajnak)

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