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Finescale wheelsets resource question

Felix Mohring All Messages By This Member #175835 Hi all, ? S scale looks fun. After 15y experience with modelling OO gauge to a British prototype, I dabbed my toes into S scale and spend the last 3 month importing some stock for a planned oyster cannery themed exhibition layout. Both OO/4mm and S?scales are quite obscure here in Germany. They are both bigger than H0 but smaller than O scale, but still worlds apart either. Attached is a quick photo of my stock on a board that is meant to be turned into a OO gauge layout this year. It is 12" wide, and as I still need to get a feeling for the scale I got the impression that I should go for 16" width for S scale. ? However, some of these cars I bought second hand have hi-rail wheelsets. Where can I get replacement scale wheelsets from? ? The AF car needs new trucks too. Suggestions welcome. ? Best, Felix Moehring DSC_2192~2.JPG
Bill Hawk All Messages By This Member #175837 Try... ? ? Bill toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 02/06/2025 5:04 AM EST Felix Mohring via groups.io <felix.moehring@...> wrote: ? ? Hi all, ? S scale looks fun. After 15y experience with modelling OO gauge to a British prototype, I dabbed my toes into S scale and spend the last 3 month importing some stock for a planned oyster cannery themed exhibition layout. Both OO/4mm and S?scales are quite obscure here in Germany. They are both bigger than H0 but smaller than O scale, but still worlds apart either. Attached is a quick photo of my stock on a board that is meant to be turned into a OO gauge layout this year. It is 12" wide, and as I still need to get a feeling for the scale I got the impression that I should go for 16" width for S scale. ? However, some of these cars I bought second hand have hi-rail wheelsets. Where can I get replacement scale wheelsets from? ? The AF car needs new trucks too. Suggestions welcome. ? Best, Felix Moehring
Roger Nulton All Messages By This Member #175844 开云体育 Felix, ? What brand of trucks are they? American Models wheelsets will not fit in S Helper or Pacific Rail Shops trucks. You need the correct Northwest Short Line wheelsets or S Helper Service. Part of the fun of S scale is the hunt for compatible wheels and track! ? Roger Nulton ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Felix Mohring via groups.io Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 2:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [S-Scale] Finescale wheelsets resource question ? Hi all, ? S scale looks fun. After 15y experience with modelling OO gauge to a British prototype, I dabbed my toes into S scale and spend the last 3 month importing some stock for a planned oyster cannery themed exhibition layout. Both OO/4mm and S?scales are quite obscure here in Germany. They are both bigger than H0 but smaller than O scale, but still worlds apart either. Attached is a quick photo of my stock on a board that is meant to be turned into a OO gauge layout this year. It is 12" wide, and as I still need to get a feeling for the scale I got the impression that I should go for 16" width for S scale. ? However, some of these cars I bought second hand have hi-rail wheelsets. Where can I get replacement scale wheelsets from? ? The AF car needs new trucks too. Suggestions welcome. ? Best, Felix Moehring
Ed Loizeaux All Messages By This Member #175845 On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 10:13 AM, Roger Nulton wrote: Part of the fun of S scale is the hunt for compatible wheels and track! Roger......... ? Not much need for a hunt.? ? I have the wheels and my son has turnouts for both Hi-rail and scale.? ? ? ? I do not understand why there is a need for a hunt.? These particular products are readily available.?? ? I don't mean to be argumentative, but we are creating problems which do not exist.? Yes, I am biased.? I am also human.? The frustration is painful........... ? Cheers..................Ed L. -- Ed Loizeaux Los Altos, CA
Roger Haag All Messages By This Member #175846 开云体育 Hey I have no idea??? Do not know if the listings gave that information? There were three or more Easy to look up and see the details Yours in the hobby? Roger toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Feb 6, 2025, at 1:20?PM, Ed Loizeaux <Loizeaux@...> wrote: ? On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 10:13 AM, Roger Nulton wrote: Part of the fun of S scale is the hunt for compatible wheels and track! Roger......... ? Not much need for a hunt.? ? I have the wheels and my son has turnouts for both Hi-rail and scale.? ? ? ? I do not understand why there is a need for a hunt.? These particular products are readily available.?? ? I don't mean to be argumentative, but we are creating problems which do not exist.? Yes, I am biased.? I am also human.? The frustration is painful........... ? Cheers..................Ed L. -- Ed Loizeaux Los Altos, CA
coquetp All Messages By This Member #175854 Hello Felix I have some available out here in our "good old" European Union.... Will cost you way .... less than having them shipped from Los Gatos CA... below pic of what I have. Note all are 36", pointed axle, weathered, and most are Proto64 (ie XS flanges for top realism, but need proper track code for smooth operations) Contact me with private meessage. BR Philippe coquet France ? NWSL_wheelsets_250207.jpeg
Felix Mohring All Messages By This Member #175855 Thank you all. ? 5 of 7 need new wheels, these are 2 SHS 1 AM 1 AF 1 K-Line ? See attached photo. ? Felix DSC_2226~2.JPG
J. Kindraka All Messages By This Member #175858 It may not be entirely clear from Roger's post, the issue is the length of the axles the wheels are mounted on.? They tend to vary over a range in S Scale.? NMRA does not have a 'Standard', only an 'RP' (Recommended Practice), and, IMHO, the RP for S Scale is a bit mushy.? A longer axle will roll poorly or even bind in a tighter truck, and conversely, a shorter axle can actually fail to center properly if the truck side frame spacing is too wide for it. ? If at all possible, it is best to pair wheel sets to truck frames by manufacturer, or just plan to do a bit of filing or reaming to achieve better rolling quality.? I haven't bought wheel sets from NWSL in some time but they used to have a couple different SKU's for different axle length wheel sets to address this.?? Jim Kindraka Grand Rapids, MI toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 1:13?PM Roger Nulton wrote: Felix, ? What brand of trucks are they? American Models wheelsets will not fit in S Helper or Pacific Rail Shops trucks. You need the correct Northwest Short Line wheelsets or S Helper Service. Part of the fun of S scale is the hunt for compatible wheels and track! ? Roger Nulton
Brooks Stover All Messages By This Member #175859 Jim, ? Perhaps you and Roger could work with Peter and add information on the website "WHEELS" page (below) to explain the compatibility issues between wheels sets and trucks.? There's a fair amount of information about wheelsets and axle lengths and axle end forms on the page now but which wheelsets fit in which manufacturers trucks isn't spelled out.? Ideally photos of the commonly available trucks would be helpful.? I could photograph AM, SHS, PRS and ACE trucks I have but I'm not sure I have scale wheels to put in each. ? ? It's always interesting to see what questions arise from newcomers to S...and how complex some of the issues newcomers have to deal with can be. ? Brooks Stover
Bob Werre All Messages By This Member #175860 开云体育 Guys, since I could hardly be considered a newcomer, I've had my problems with the vast variety of both brass trucks and most everybody's passenger trucks.? Obviously there are trucks/wheels that none of us have used for even seen.? The only reference might be from an old issue of 3/16's S scale magazine.? I did the photo work, while I think Kent Singer laid the words down.? Several new versions have appeared since then. Bob Werre toggle quoted message Show quoted text Jim, ? Perhaps you and Roger could work with Peter and add information on the website "WHEELS" page (below) to explain the compatibility issues between wheels sets and trucks.? There's a fair amount of information about wheelsets and axle lengths and axle end forms on the page now but which wheelsets fit in which manufacturers trucks isn't spelled out.? Ideally photos of the commonly available trucks would be helpful.? I could photograph AM, SHS, PRS and ACE trucks I have but I'm not sure I have scale wheels to put in each. ? ? It's always interesting to see what questions arise from newcomers to S...and how complex some of the issues newcomers have to deal with can be. ? Brooks Stover
Bill Lane All Messages By This Member #175867 开云体育 ? Felix ? For the AF and KLINE cars you may be better/easier replacing the trucks not just the wheels. ? ? Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at: Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join!?? Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL ?

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