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C&NW wood reefer

 

Forgot to mention those wood C&NW reefers were the yellow and green ones like the ones S Helper once sold, very prominent in a train.
? ? ?Bud Rindfleisch
 

The 1927 version of the NWX reefer was the prototype for our 40¡¯ wooden reefer¡­
 

Anyone have info on back dating these. My era stops at 1923.

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Mn42 in 1923
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On 02March2025, at 09:14, Don Thompson <don@...> wrote:

The 1927 version of the NWX reefer was the prototype for our 40¡¯ wooden reefer¡­
 

TC,
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Are you wanting to model produce reefers or meat reefers?
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What area of the country are you modeling?
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Were customers on your railroad loading reefers to go elsewhere, or receiving reefers inbound?
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Many cars in service in 1923 would have been built between 1900 and 1917. ? They had arch bar or Andrews trucks. Builders were shifting from truss-rod to steel underframes.
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Mark Charles
Ann Arbor, Mich. USA
 

I'm not certain of backdating them, but there is a Cyc or another similar manual showing photos of those cars in several billboard schemes.? Since the laws had changed about advertising on the car sides that might have affected their time period.? However it's possible the schemes were dedicated only to those particular clients.

.? This could be devoted to eggs (wonder what the price was then?) while another was a creamery that was semi localized in the Dakotas.? I feel it was a billboard advertising, since a 40' car of eggs or cheese from a localized source would be difficult to justify in such a remotely populated area.

I own three of the Green/Yellow schemes from the last era and a single of the earlier gray--a second one was dedicated or assigned to that client.

After seeing those photos, I sold the one with the private lettering so as not to bring in the prototype police; since I model from the mid 40's!

Bob Werre
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Anyone have info on back dating these. My era stops at 1923.

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Mn42 in 1923
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On 02March2025, at 09:14, Don Thompson <don@...> wrote:

The 1927 version of the NWX reefer was the prototype for our 40¡¯ wooden reefer¡­
 

 

The reason we chose the 1927 version is that ladders were used instead of just hand grabs. I¡¯m guessing someone figured out that the ice reefers were loosing cold by the through bolted fasteners for handgrabs. for 7 handgrabs, 14 steel threaded rods were needed, for 7 rungs of a ladder only 6. So multiply by 4, that might have been a big difference. If you want Further back, exchange the fishbelly centersill for trussrods.
Don?
 

Get a hold of White:s book "The Great Yellow Fleet"


On Mar 3, 2025 at 1:29 PM, Don Thompson via groups.io <don@...> wrote:

The reason we chose the 1927 version is that ladders were used instead of just hand grabs. I¡¯m guessing someone figured out that the ice reefers were loosing cold by the through bolted fasteners for handgrabs. for 7 handgrabs, 14 steel threaded rods were needed, for 7 rungs of a ladder only 6. So multiply by 4, that might have been a big difference. If you want Further back, exchange the fishbelly centersill for trussrods.
Don?
 

Another option for TC would be an earlier ART SUF reefer. Prior to that carline acquiring large numbers of cars with the USRA-derived underframe (used in common with the NWX, SFRD, and URTX fleets of the later 20's,) ART had purchased cars of comparable dimensions prior to WWI that used a 30" deep fishbelly UF (compared to 26" deep fishbelly used on the USRA designs the others were based on.) TC, I can provide further details if that is of interest to you.

Earl Tuson
 

This is one of my favorite SHS reefers.......... cuz they were one of the few all wood reefers still around in 1965
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Ted Larson
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GN in 1965

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