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Just another box car


 

I finally have this one done. It’s been a journey.?

It’s one of a bunch I purchased from Smiling Ed. This car was a PRS NASG commemorative car with NWSL wheels and Kadee 5 couplers. I replaced the 5s with 802s.?

The PRS logos and paint was stripped off using Goof-Off. wasn’t hard to do but it did soak for a while.?

Frisco has a little different red than the every day box car red. I chose Barn Red. And really like the results. Then top coated with 2X gloss to get it decal ready.?

The NWSL wheels needed to be gauge and then brush painted with Burnt Umber. The trucks were painted along with the car body.?

The Tichy decals were no hill for a climber. The very large logo was the only minor issue to get signed down. I used the clear Arleen’s tacky glue thinned a little with water. Applied to the back of the logo and then suck on. Worked down with fingers and a piece of dense foam. The finally a hair drier to finish up getting the large logo to tighten down around the rivet lines.?

Finally a flat top coat and put on the rails. ?

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--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


 

Nice job!? ?It will definitely be an attention getter.

Good clues on the use of? Tichy decals.

Bill Winans
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I finally have this one done. It’s been a journey.?

It’s one of a bunch I purchased from Smiling Ed. This car was a PRS NASG commemorative car with NWSL wheels and Kadee 5 couplers. I replaced the 5s with 802s.?

The PRS logos and paint was stripped off using Goof-Off. wasn’t hard to do but it did soak for a while.?

Frisco has a little different red than the every day box car red. I chose Barn Red. And really like the results. Then top coated with 2X gloss to get it decal ready.?

The NWSL wheels needed to be gauge and then brush painted with Burnt Umber. The trucks were painted along with the car body.?

The Tichy decals were no hill for a climber. The very large logo was the only minor issue to get signed down. I used the clear Arleen’s tacky glue thinned a little with water. Applied to the back of the logo and then suck on. Worked down with fingers and a piece of dense foam. The finally a hair drier to finish up getting the large logo to tighten down around the rivet lines.?

Finally a flat top coat and put on the rails. ?

?
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16


Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


 

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Thanks. I really am liking the billboard style box car.?
Mike Swederska?

On Feb 12, 2025, at 3:44?PM, William Winans via groups.io <3W2scalesonly@...> wrote:

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Nice job!? ?It will definitely be an attention getter.

Good clues on the use of? Tichy decals.

Bill Winans
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I finally have this one done. It’s been a journey.?

It’s one of a bunch I purchased from Smiling Ed. This car was a PRS NASG commemorative car with NWSL wheels and Kadee 5 couplers. I replaced the 5s with 802s.?

The PRS logos and paint was stripped off using Goof-Off. wasn’t hard to do but it did soak for a while.?

Frisco has a little different red than the every day box car red. I chose Barn Red. And really like the results. Then top coated with 2X gloss to get it decal ready.?

The NWSL wheels needed to be gauge and then brush painted with Burnt Umber. The trucks were painted along with the car body.?

The Tichy decals were no hill for a climber. The very large logo was the only minor issue to get signed down. I used the clear Arleen’s tacky glue thinned a little with water. Applied to the back of the logo and then suck on. Worked down with fingers and a piece of dense foam. The finally a hair drier to finish up getting the large logo to tighten down around the rivet lines.?

Finally a flat top coat and put on the rails. ?

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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16


Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


 

I gotta ask Mike, you're airbrushing those craft store acrylics?? What's your recipe?
Tommy?


 

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Tom,?
Tap water and if needed glycerine. There are tons of YouTube videos on thinning and spraying craft acrylics.?

Mike Swederska?

On Feb 12, 2025, at 7:28?PM, Tom Lennon via groups.io <milepost169@...> wrote:

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I gotta ask Mike, you're airbrushing those craft store acrylics?? What's your recipe?
Tommy?

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


 

As in suppositories?

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 8:05?PM Mike Swederska via <MikeSscale=[email protected]> wrote:
Tom,?
Tap water and if needed glycerine. There are tons of YouTube videos on thinning and spraying craft acrylics.?

Mike Swederska?

On Feb 12, 2025, at 7:28?PM, Tom Lennon via <milepost169=[email protected]> wrote:

?
I gotta ask Mike, you're airbrushing those craft store acrylics?? What's your recipe?
Tommy?

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16


Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


 

I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


 

Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


 

Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.

His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.

The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.

Griff?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via groups.io
<kindrakaj@...> wrote:
Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


 

Hi Griff, clarify for me.

8oz. Water
6 drops dw rinse
6 drops glycerine?
?oz. acrylic paint
Can't wait to try it out.
Tommy


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025, 8:29?AM rxman46321 via <rxman46321=[email protected]> wrote:
Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.

His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.

The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.

Griff?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via
<kindrakaj=[email protected]> wrote:
Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


 


Tom

I believe it's to taste and how it sprays.

Griff?


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lennon via groups.io
<milepost169@...> wrote:
Hi Griff, clarify for me.

8oz. Water
6 drops dw rinse
6 drops glycerine?
?oz. acrylic paint
Can't wait to try it out.
Tommy


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025, 8:29?AM rxman46321 via <rxman46321=[email protected]> wrote:
Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.

His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.

The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.

Griff?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via
<kindrakaj=[email protected]> wrote:
Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


 

Found the video. It 32 oz of water.
Here it is.

https://youtu.be/_cxuULWCmZI?si=b7-Sq5Tn0IORuc77

On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lennon via groups.io
<milepost169@...> wrote:
Hi Griff, clarify for me.

8oz. Water
6 drops dw rinse
6 drops glycerine?
?oz. acrylic paint
Can't wait to try it out.
Tommy


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025, 8:29?AM rxman46321 via <rxman46321=[email protected]> wrote:
Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.

His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.

The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.

Griff?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via
<kindrakaj=[email protected]> wrote:
Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


 

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That’s a good explanation of technique. I just want to say that the biggest advantage of using water base is its ability to dry very quickly using a hair drier on every coat.?

Water dries by evaporation through air movement via the hair drier. Sure, a little heat is fine but not a lot.

Surface prep is the same as any model water base paint.?

Using a pill bottle to mix in has the same surface tension as most plastic models. Putting just several drop in the bottle and then start adding tap water a little at a time. Stir and then tilt the bottle for the paint to coat the inside and then watch how it leaves a coat on the wall.You’re looking for a consistent somewhat see through coat. Make sure there is no lumps or little bitty chunks that look like dirt specs. If so you need to start over as you may have not mixed the paint well enough before your pour.?

You will need to turn up your air to get the droplets to atomize.?

The glycerin is for some of the heavier pigmented paints. I use straight water on all the colors first.?

Have fun with it. I can talk to this subject all day but won’t.

Mike Swederska?

On Feb 14, 2025, at 8:45?PM, rxman46321 via groups.io <rxman46321@...> wrote:

?Found the video. It 32 oz of water.
Here it is.

https://youtu.be/_cxuULWCmZI?si=b7-Sq5Tn0IORuc77

On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lennon via groups.io
<milepost169@...> wrote:
Hi Griff, clarify for me.

8oz. Water
6 drops dw rinse
6 drops glycerine?
?oz. acrylic paint
Can't wait to try it out.
Tommy


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025, 8:29?AM rxman46321 via <rxman46321=[email protected]> wrote:
Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.

His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.

The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.

Griff?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via
<kindrakaj=[email protected]> wrote:
Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


 

Here's a blog post from someone I know on how he sprays craft paints.



Pieter Roos


On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 01:21:33 PM EST, Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...> wrote:


That’s a good explanation of technique. I just want to say that the biggest advantage of using water base is its ability to dry very quickly using a hair drier on every coat.?

Water dries by evaporation through air movement via the hair drier. Sure, a little heat is fine but not a lot.

Surface prep is the same as any model water base paint.?

Using a pill bottle to mix in has the same surface tension as most plastic models. Putting just several drop in the bottle and then start adding tap water a little at a time. Stir and then tilt the bottle for the paint to coat the inside and then watch how it leaves a coat on the wall.You’re looking for a consistent somewhat see through coat. Make sure there is no lumps or little bitty chunks that look like dirt specs. If so you need to start over as you may have not mixed the paint well enough before your pour.?

You will need to turn up your air to get the droplets to atomize.?

The glycerin is for some of the heavier pigmented paints. I use straight water on all the colors first.?

Have fun with it. I can talk to this subject all day but won’t.

Mike Swederska?

On Feb 14, 2025, at 8:45?PM, rxman46321 via groups.io <rxman46321@...> wrote:

?Found the video. It 32 oz of water.
Here it is.

https://youtu.be/_cxuULWCmZI?si=b7-Sq5Tn0IORuc77

On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lennon via groups.io
<milepost169@...> wrote:
Hi Griff, clarify for me.

8oz. Water
6 drops dw rinse
6 drops glycerine?
?oz. acrylic paint
Can't wait to try it out.
Tommy


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025, 8:29?AM rxman46321 via <rxman46321=[email protected]> wrote:
Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.

His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.

The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.

Griff?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via
<kindrakaj=[email protected]> wrote:
Tom:
Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.

BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike!
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?

I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun.
Tommy?


--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!