Finally making some layout progress myself. Printed out part of the track plan so I could work on some turnouts. Got a long way to go but fells good to get started!
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Grand Haven, MI
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On 12/17/24 6:53 PM, John Degnan via
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Bob,
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I was able to pick it up from a former club member who helped put
out the kit--Potomac club I believe, so it's an original.? I added
roofing paper, some weathering and other repairs--I've owned it
for 20+ years and it was old before then.
Bob
Was your kit
put out by LVM or one of the others who offered this kit?
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John D
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On 12/17/2024 5:25 PM EST Bob Werre
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A fairly old photo of my
N&S sandhouse from the archives recently appeared.? For
some years it just sat there and I've been known to move
things around, so I mull over things for a long time.?
However I did put down some spilled sand a few months ago as
we often see that around sand facilities.? Spilled sand
isn't valuable so it's not like coal that gets picked up by
crew or 'neighbors' who can use it.?
So the result is what
happened, but I really don't like the result! With that in
mind and like the TV program--What would you do! comes to
mind.? Help me here--all suggestions are welcome.?
Bob Werre
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Bob,
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Was your kit put out by LVM or one of the others who offered this kit?
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John D
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On 12/17/2024 5:25 PM EST Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
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A fairly old photo of my N&S sandhouse from the archives recently appeared.? For some years it just sat there and I've been known to move things around, so I mull over things for a long time.? However I did put down some spilled sand a few months ago as we often see that around sand facilities.? Spilled sand isn't valuable so it's not like coal that gets picked up by crew or 'neighbors' who can use it.?
So the result is what happened, but I really don't like the result! With that in mind and like the TV program--What would you do! comes to mind.? Help me here--all suggestions are welcome.?
Bob Werre
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I have managed to scare up the two, attached images of the NS Sandhouse in Norfolk, VA.? Looks like this is, indeed, the prototype for the model.
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John D
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 02:37 PM, Bill Lane wrote:
Staples stocks NO small boxes.
Bill.........The Post Office has lots of small boxes and padded envelopes for sale.? You have to go there anyway sooner or later.? Have fun........Ed L.
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Los Altos, CA
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If you have recently bought 3D printed parts from me I just got the mailing boxes today. Imagine Staples stocks NO small boxes. I should have everything mailed on Saturday. ? Thank You,
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My Granddaughter thought this might be
a stash house for my cocaine business or for a future snow storm!
Bob
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A fairly old photo of my N&S sandhouse from
the archives recently appeared.? For some years it just sat
there and I've been known to move things around, so I mull
over things for a long time.? However I did put down some
spilled sand a few months ago as we often see that around sand
facilities.? Spilled sand isn't valuable so it's not like coal
that gets picked up by crew or 'neighbors' who can use it.?
So the result is what happened, but I really
don't like the result! With that in mind and like the TV
program--What would you do! comes to mind.? Help me here--all
suggestions are welcome.?
Bob Werre
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A fairly old photo of my N&S sandhouse from
the archives recently appeared.? For some years it just sat
there and I've been known to move things around, so I mull over
things for a long time.? However I did put down some spilled
sand a few months ago as we often see that around sand
facilities.? Spilled sand isn't valuable so it's not like coal
that gets picked up by crew or 'neighbors' who can use it.?
So the result is what happened, but I really
don't like the result! With that in mind and like the TV
program--What would you do! comes to mind.? Help me here--all
suggestions are welcome.?
Bob Werre
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Re: Today’s S Scale project
Rich,
thanks. I was leaning on two singles. I have some in inventory, I think. The also take me back to my narrow gauge days.?
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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!
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It is not exactly impulse buying, but I suspect most people think in terms of specifics.? It is hard for most folks to narrow down their wants.? Perhaps because of my advanced age (the same as yours, but I am still buying while you are selling), I generally
have a short list of desiderata in both S and O scale, that Overland Alco switcher being on the former.? Although I started late in S, I've made up for lost time and now have almost everything I really want from what is available (S scale is limited in the
latter, so that makes things easier—one of the reasons I left HO for O scale forty-some years ago was that there was just too much I liked that could be had in HO).
At this point whether I buy something more mostly has to do with seeing it (as with your photos) with a price I can't resist (usually not the case with your listings), as my mindset from a lifetime of being mostly poor is to look at the pricetag first.? Not
how everyone thinks, of course.
People often don't realize they want something until they actually see it, which was the advantage of bricks-and-mortar hobby shops back when those were common.
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 09:55 AM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
it should be worth someone's while to make Ed smile.
Thanks for the favorable comment, Jace.? I like smiling and have been doing a lot of it recently.? ?Must be the Christmas season or similar, but the orders have been coming in faster than normal these past two weeks.
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Humans are a funny bunch.? I can say "Tell me what you want" and nobody writes to me.? I can post a photo of an ALCO S-2 switcher and the entire world makes darn good offers.? I do not understand why nobody ever asked me if I had an S-2 for sale.? Would
have saved both of us time and effort.? Humans are illogical at times.? They all make me smile -- especially the S guys.
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Tell me what you want and avoid the Christmas rush -- New Year's rush also.? Why is it nobody ever wants anything until AFTER I post a photo and make an announcement?? Humans are just human, I guess.??
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Cheerfully.........Ed L .
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Los Altos, CA
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Re: What did I just get into!
The truck is likely as you say, Nimco but the wheels aren't
Nimco.? The wheels unlike the Pullman truck don't require fiber
bolsters--just turned wheels so I'll stick with SSL&S label
for those!
So that little problem was solved by AM's six wheeled trucks--now
mounted, it runs almost too good and without clearance issues.?
Attached are a couple of photos from last night.? I probably
don't go back that far and certainly didn't have the resources to
buy or build those old cars but... it clearly shows the modeling
that was applied to this spliced guy. All different but the result
was certainly good--wonder who the craftsman might have been?
I did chemically removed all the lettering and of course that
will require a light over spray of Pullman green.? The photo shows
the staples used as grabs and stirrups that still stick up through
the floor and even the sides.? you can also see the
Duco/Ambroid/?? used to hold things together.? Also of note, the
builder made up under-body boxes but made them narrow, as their is
room behind them--and a AB brake cyclinder was used but now we
have brass replacement for those things so I can replace those
things.? With the removing of the lead trucks the car has now
become considerably too light, so I'll probably get a postage
scale out to add some additional weight.? I also noticed that the
solid wooden floor is thinner than the NE stuff I've been using in
the past.? The builder also used a chunk of common 2x2 in the
center, probably to keep the splices from breaking.? I might
consider adding something additional to help with that along with
that additional weight. ?
The most obvious uniqueness is that the sides are brass but
silver inside.? The Super Scale cars I've seen have lead poured in
them, but this is just impressed rivets on the sides!? Again I
have no history of that!
Now if I overspray the sides, replace the decals, I've then got
to add the window glass, I'm hoping then I can replace the sides
without messing up the tight fit!? It appears that the builder
might have used some body putty as seams are not visible--a real
chore for most (myself included)
For now!
Bob Werre
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I suspect your passenger car came from the same source as the
other spliced AF coaches I got from you.? Two of those had Nimco
white-metal six wheel trucks (one high-rail sintered iron
wheels, the other scale brass wheels insulated like the old
Millers), so I expect those are also Nimco.
But definitely not SSL&S, as those were cast brass with a
fibre bolster.
In the sale of used S train items (BBB),
sometimes I find something I really-really need, but
generally I can pass on most.? However, sometimes it's just
'a little something' that catches my eye, my desires though
seldom my needs.
I had listed some heavy weight New Haven
style cars that didn't receive much attention, so they just
got shipped from box to box but zero forever homes.? Then I
had a large sale but even then, these cars were passed up.?
One car sort of stuck out from the rest and it sort of
follows some usefulness for the layout.? It's a spliced
(maybe 3 sections) from the AF New Haven cars--good splice,
good paint & a fair attempt at under-body, so I gathered
it under my wing.? The decals weren't done correctly, and
there was no road name announced on the sides (actually
that's plus for my use).? I thought maybe a couple of hours
in the shops and I could send it out for some trial running!
But just like the plumber's estimate, your
car guy or the new couch--ouch $$!? It was a full baggage
car but some of the windows were punched in while the others
were so foggy they appeared to have been on a siding for 30
years!? A quick look indicated that the car was sealed on
all sides and floor.? Okay now a surgeon is required to
remove the skin of the sides--they were punched with fairly
nice rivet belts.? Luckily a #11 blade was able to pop open
the side without any creases.? The glue might be some
yellowish Duco looking cement with reasonable strength.?
Next I devoted some time to the trucks and
couplers!? Couplers were easy--none were present.? Trucks
were unpainted soft-metal six wheeled Pullman looking.? Six
axles were all scale and might be SSL&S??.? The trucks
were mounted with wood screws from two sources so I decided
I'd do an upgrade on them.? I then tried a ancient pair of
solid brass
that Jack Troxell had worked on--he totally rebuilt the
journal area taking a solid truck and creating equalizing
abilities that is a work of art...but they really didn't work
for me.? I then put on the AM six wheeled delrin truck with
NWSL wheels and Kadee 802' on the end.? At first blush, I need
to add a thin washer on one truck for coupler height.
As the side was removed, I noticed that the side and end
steps were made from flat metal material--steel I think.? As
they penetrated the floor they were spike-like--I think
they're heavy duty staples the type used on heavy cardboard
boxes.? A wonderful use BTW.? The bends are factory,
repeatable and very sturdy.? Stay tuned!
Bob Werre
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 09:55 AM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
it should be worth someone's while to make Ed smile.
Thanks for the favorable comment, Jace.? I like smiling and have been doing a lot of it recently.? ?Must be the Christmas season or similar, but the orders have been coming in faster than normal these past two weeks.
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Humans are a funny bunch.? I can say "Tell me what you want" and nobody writes to me.? I can post a photo of an ALCO S-2 switcher and the entire world makes darn good offers.? I do not understand why nobody ever asked me if I had an S-2 for sale.? Would have saved both of us time and effort.? Humans are illogical at times.? They all make me smile -- especially the S guys.
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Tell me what you want and avoid the Christmas rush -- New Year's rush also.? Why is it nobody ever wants anything until AFTER I post a photo and make an announcement?? Humans are just human, I guess.??
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Cheerfully.........Ed L .
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 09:49 AM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
Could be these were NWSL replacements, although presumably not for SHS diesels,
To the best of my knowledge, they are upgrade wheels for AM ALCO PA/PB diesels.? ?I have no recollection of buying extra wheels for any SHS engine.? Anything beyond that is speculation.? ?The photos show you what you will get if you cough up some money.
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"S"miles.........Ed L.
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Los Altos, CA
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Looking again at the journals, I can see they are D, so almost certainly AM; initially I had noted only the flat side of the journal and wrongly assumed square.? The nylon journals are unknown to me, as none of the AM (and surely not the SHS) diesels I own
have them.? Could be PA-- or E's--as I've never had any of those.
Even if not NWSL, AM is charging quite a bit for their replacements, so it should be worth someone's while to make Ed smile.
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The wheels are diesel diameter.? I believe 40 scale inches.? ?With calipers,? .622 actual inches.? Doing the math,? 64 x .622" = 39.8 scale inches.? Close enough?
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The more I look at these, the more convinced I become that they are all upgrade wheels for American Models ALCO PA/PB diesels.? I bought them a long time ago and never got around to installing them.? Check the bearing types/sizes to make sure they will
fit your engine.? Might also work for other AM diesels, but I cannot guarantee that.? Do all AM diesels use the same wheels?? I dunno......
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And the next question is...................??? ?How much to make me smile??
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I smiled when other similar wheels sold for $10 per axle to a well-known S modeler in the Chicago area.? That is the only data point I have for these wheels.? I have no other information.? Make your
BEST reasonable offer up front and see what happens.
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"S"incerely..........Ed Loizeaux
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Los Altos, CA
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AM diesel drives had three different wheelset journals: round, "D", and square (and were not interchangeable).
Could be these were NWSL replacements, although presumably not for SHS diesels, as those had delrin gears cut on?
a bias.
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The wheels are diesel diameter.? I believe 40 scale inches.? ?With calipers,? .622 actual inches.? Doing the math,? 64 x .622" = 39.8 scale inches.? Close enough?
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The more I look at these, the more convinced I become that they are all upgrade wheels for American Models ALCO PA/PB diesels.? I bought them a long time ago and never got around to installing them.? Check the bearing types/sizes to make sure they will
fit your engine.? Might also work for other AM diesels, but I cannot guarantee that.? Do all AM diesels use the same wheels?? I dunno......
?
And the next question is...................??? ?How much to make me smile??
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I smiled when other similar wheels sold for $10 per axle to a well-known S modeler in the Chicago area.? That is the only data point I have for these wheels.? I have no other information.? Make your
BEST reasonable offer up front and see what happens.
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Loizeaux? aht? SBC // Global daht?
net
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"S"incerely..........Ed Loizeaux
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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Hi Jace....
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The wheels are diesel diameter.? I believe 40 scale inches.? ?With calipers,? .622 actual inches.? Doing the math,? 64 x .622" = 39.8 scale inches.? Close enough?
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The more I look at these, the more convinced I become that they are all upgrade wheels for American Models ALCO PA/PB diesels.? I bought them a long time ago and never got around to installing them.? Check the bearing types/sizes to make sure they will fit your engine.? Might also work for other AM diesels, but I cannot guarantee that.? Do all AM diesels use the same wheels?? I dunno......
?
And the next question is...................??? ?How much to make me smile??
?
I smiled when other similar wheels sold for $10 per axle to a well-known S modeler in the Chicago area.? That is the only data point I have for these wheels.? I have no other information.? Make your BEST reasonable offer up front and see what happens.
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Loizeaux? aht? SBC // Global daht? net
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"S"incerely..........Ed Loizeaux
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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Re: Some S scale brass available on Rick's website
Oops, use this link instead.
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Scott?
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Some S scale brass available on Rick's website
Hello,
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Rick has some S Scale brass in for sale including an SD40-2 and Gp38-2 and a big N&W Steamer with Aux tender.? You have to use a Desktop/Laptop to see the photos on his site.
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He is taking reasonable offers on them.? Give him a call he is easy to talk too.
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Thanks
Scott McDonald?
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Thanks Bill.? I follow Leonard which is where I first heard of Nimco.? His channel is remarkable! Thanks, Austin?
> From: Austin Birkey
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 22:47:33 PST
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> Thanks for looking.? Yes they are surprising large.? But the size does filling the extra space on an AF axle spacing.
Here is a recent 4-minute YouTube video that features an AF Atlantic with Nimco wheels, two Exacta cars, and a view of related pages from the 1949 Nimco catalog:
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The low 1949 prices are deceiving. Multiply them by 13 to determine today’s equivalent.
Plus, those modelers interested in old catalogs and information, including a C-D ad from the April 1939 issue of Model Craftsman (before it became RMC), should check out the following site:
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Bill Roberts
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Re: Switched out the Reading team to Lehigh Valley tonight
I certainly do just that!? A few years after the BC&G closed in 1965 and steam ended, the line was reopened by another company and they brought in a 65-ton Whitcomb.? I built the model years ago and from time to time I substitute if for the Consolidations that are normally on the layout.? ?This engine was nicknamed "Peanut" by the crews since it could only pull a half dozen cars or so.? ?It's the perfect size for my 3-4 car consists.? Interestingly the new company lettered the engine with the BC&G's logo.? The scratchbuilt body rides on an AM Baldwin chassis and it's fitted with a Tsunami Baldwin decoder.? The Lackawana boxcar is one I got from smiling Ed Loizeaux and repaired, repainted and relettered.? Thanks, Ed!
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