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Re: For Sale, various cars and parts
Jim, wasn't there an issue with the Lionel bolsters, or is that for a different series? Someone produced a new 3D printed piece for them? ? Ken G.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 12:19?PM John Keating via <Keating.j.t.43= [email protected]> wrote: Thank You, Jim, for your reply. John
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 10:50?AM R. James Whipple via <rwhipple= [email protected]> wrote:
I want to point out to everyone on this list that virtually any freight or passenger car can be re-configured as scale or hi rail by changing the wheels - at worst, swapping out the trucks. That¡¯s why the NASG website¡¯s Product Gallery mushes together scale and hirail; kits can be built either way and S Helper Service cars have both wheel and coupler styles right in the box.
For these particular Lionel-produced covered hoppers, if you see a paint scheme you like, buy it - they¡¯re nice cars. You can buy a set of Lionel trucks from Lionel (only sold separately with hirail wheels, I believe), swap trucks, and sell the ¡°scale¡±version to a fellow modeler. Some people have also swapped out the trucks for American Models hirail roller-bearing trucks.
The same is true for most diesel-electric locomotives. Steam engine are the biggest challenge, both in the difficulty of conversion and the availability of parts. And some are just impossible, because the drivers are too close to accommodate hirail flanges.
But cars are very straightforward.
Jim Whipple, President
NASG
Thanks- I'll have to pass as I'm hirail
Jim
All cars appear to have scale wheels.
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Apologies for the blurry photos, my phone is older and unlike me likes to look at things further away.
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Re: For Sale, various cars and parts
Thank You, Jim, for your reply. John
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 10:50?AM R. James Whipple via <rwhipple= [email protected]> wrote:
I want to point out to everyone on this list that virtually any freight or passenger car can be re-configured as scale or hi rail by changing the wheels - at worst, swapping out the trucks. That¡¯s why the NASG website¡¯s Product Gallery mushes together scale and hirail; kits can be built either way and S Helper Service cars have both wheel and coupler styles right in the box.
For these particular Lionel-produced covered hoppers, if you see a paint scheme you like, buy it - they¡¯re nice cars. You can buy a set of Lionel trucks from Lionel (only sold separately with hirail wheels, I believe), swap trucks, and sell the ¡°scale¡±version to a fellow modeler. Some people have also swapped out the trucks for American Models hirail roller-bearing trucks.
The same is true for most diesel-electric locomotives. Steam engine are the biggest challenge, both in the difficulty of conversion and the availability of parts. And some are just impossible, because the drivers are too close to accommodate hirail flanges.
But cars are very straightforward.
Jim Whipple, President
NASG
Thanks- I'll have to pass as I'm hirail
Jim
All cars appear to have scale wheels.
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Apologies for the blurry photos, my phone is older and unlike me likes to look at things further away.
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Re: For Sale, various cars and parts
I want to point out to everyone on this list that virtually any freight or passenger car can be re-configured as scale or hi rail by changing the wheels - at worst, swapping out the trucks. That¡¯s why the NASG website¡¯s Product Gallery mushes together scale and hirail; kits can be built either way and S Helper Service cars have both wheel and coupler styles right in the box.
For these particular Lionel-produced covered hoppers, if you see a paint scheme you like, buy it - they¡¯re nice cars. You can buy a set of Lionel trucks from Lionel (only sold separately with hirail wheels, I believe), swap trucks, and sell the ¡°scale¡±version to a fellow modeler. Some people have also swapped out the trucks for American Models hirail roller-bearing trucks.
The same is true for most diesel-electric locomotives. Steam engine are the biggest challenge, both in the difficulty of conversion and the availability of parts. And some are just impossible, because the drivers are too close to accommodate hirail flanges.
But cars are very straightforward.
Jim Whipple, President
NASG
Thanks- I'll have to pass as I'm hirail
Jim
All cars appear to have scale wheels.
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Apologies for the blurry photos, my phone is older and unlike me likes to look at things further away.
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Re: For Sale, various cars and parts
Thanks- I'll have to pass as I'm hirail
Jim
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All cars appear to have scale wheels.
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Apologies for the blurry photos, my phone is older and unlike me likes to look at things further away.
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Sacramento Northern SMMW 44 Tonner #147
I finally got round to finishing up my Smokey Mountain Model Works resin GE 44 tonner kit.? The Sacramento Northern's #147 was an early Phase 1 loco (1947) acquired second hand by the SN and was the final 44 tonner on their roster.? My SN 1970's era loco roster is now up to three locomotives, per the attached photo.
Bob Hogan
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Re: For Sale, various cars and parts
All cars appear to have scale wheels.
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Apologies for the blurry photos, my phone is older and unlike me likes to look at things further away.
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Gang, pardon the interruption.
Yo, Peter Cibula . . .?? I've responded twice to your email inquiry and not heard back.
Let me know what you want to do.
Thanks
Bill
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I may have been hazy on the progression; perhaps it was Rex, then Sudimak (J&S?), last Putt, where it has sat on the shelf for some years???
I am not clear when the nylon gearing was introduced, although I suspect it may have been Putt (with the can motor); the mogul with those I once owned was sold to me as a Putt re-issue.??
My understanding is that the Ace equalized Bettendorfs differ from the Rex/Culp primarily because the latter have cast-in brakeshoes; any Ace equalized I've acquired have been in passing as I much prefer their sprung version (for personal rather than operational
reasons).
If I have ever encountered Culp Andrews trucks I have not identified them as such; I've tended to consider any older Andrews trucks as just? Northeastern.
JGGK
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> . . . what you have is the re-run of the Rex by Jack Sudimak as Putt Trains, indicated by the Mashima motor and the nylon worm and gear. . . I had one of the re-issued 2-6-0's with those modifications, as distinct from the brass worm, fiber gear, and PIttman
motor in my other Rex locomotives.
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I was not aware that Jack Sudimak had any connection with Putt Trains.
Regarding trucks, Culp did indeed produce an Andrews truck (with coil or leaf springs). Rex made only one truck, a Buckeye Bettendorf-style truck. It was equalized but not sprung. Both makes are described on the NASG site:
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Re: For Sale, various cars and parts
Please advise if the CN hopper has hi-rail or scale wheel sets. Thank You John Keating
I have a set of 6 BN covered hoppers and 1 CN Lifesaver Covered Hopper plus some detail parts and a set of 70 and 100 Ton Smoky Valley Trucks for sale as I'm going to have to move and need to downsize.
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CN Covered Hopper I'd like to sell for 50$, the other covered hoppers for 35$ each, trucks and parts for 50$.? Would be willing to ship the whole set at a discount.? I have never taken them out of their boxes.
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From: JGG KahnSr
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 06:29:57 PDT
. . . what you have is the re-run of the Rex by Jack Sudimak as Putt Trains, indicated by the Mashima motor and the nylon worm and gear. . . I had one of the re-issued 2-6-0's with those modifications, as distinct from the brass worm, fiber gear, and PIttman motor in my other Rex locomotives. I was not aware that Jack Sudimak had any connection with Putt Trains. Regarding trucks, Culp did indeed produce an Andrews truck (with coil or leaf springs). Rex made only one truck, a Buckeye Bettendorf-style truck. It was equalized but not sprung. Both makes are described on the NASG site: <> -- Bill Roberts, Receiver San Antonio & Aransas Pass Railway Co. * * * Notice to travelers * * * Local innkeepers have the express authority to refuse service to any SAP employee who appears to be intoxicated or lacking complete control of his faculties. Arrangements will be made for the individual to be safely transported to his room until called for work.
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For Sale, various cars and parts
I have a set of 6 BN covered hoppers and 1 CN Lifesaver Covered Hopper plus some detail parts and a set of 70 and 100 Ton Smoky Valley Trucks for sale as I'm going to have to move and need to downsize.
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CN Covered Hopper I'd like to sell for 50$, the other covered hoppers for 35$ each, trucks and parts for 50$.? Would be willing to ship the whole set at a discount.? I have never taken them out of their boxes.
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This is? what I did. ? Thank You,
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Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
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Hi,
My SW-1 has been in storage for a number of years.
It's? painted Southern Pacific Tiger Stripe # 1004
I haven't run it for about 15 years except to test it a few days ago.
The cap on?the stack is missing.??The horn came off but is in the box.
It has a very?old DCC unit that probably needs to be replaced.? I would also suggest a "Keep Alive" unit as it has a tendency to stall.
$350.00 plus shipping
Pictures on?request, please contact me directly.??Let me know if you are interested.
Take care,
Bill
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Railmaster was: Latest News from B.T.S.
Travis and co. don¡¯t believe anything that new fellow tells you. We are still alive and kicking and kits are on the shelf ready to roll mate. Kind regards Doreen and John @ Railmaster Exports downunder in N Z.
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Re: Rex Suburban Truck (was: Re: [S-Scale] 2-4-4-T)
From the display cabinet at MRIM. Not the best image, sorry.
Tommy
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Rex Suburban Truck (was: Re: [S-Scale] 2-4-4-T)
Rex never made an Andrew¡¯s truck with flexible leaf springs. ?The early 2-4-4T Suburban kit (my first loco build ar age 14, in 1953) had a Cult leaf-sprung Andrews trailing truck. ?And the cast wheels were robbed on the back side.
(These somewhat large Culp Andrews trucks are nearly dead ringers for the Benner¡¯s Crown trucks found beneath PRR Class H21 quad hopper cars.)
A few years later I reworked my Suburban into a true NYC Class D2-a. ?Main changes: shortening the coal bunker and altering cab appearance. ?No photos, but Dave Jasper currently owns the loco.
-- Dick Karnes, MMR
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Is there a video or some sort of write up on how to remove the electronics from a Lionel AF U33C?? Hopefully including more details on removing the shell and couplers....
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Michael Osweiler
Waseca, MN
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Trucks ... was Restarting...
NASG's Brass Car Committee (Don T., Mike F. and myself) ordered the OMI brass sprung Bettendorf 'T' section trucks as part of the NASG ACF Tank Car Project back in 1986.? The committee didn't? have much extra money so we were only able to get something like 100 pair.? They were gone in a flash.? Wish we could have ordered 500!?
Simon Parent did all the work and 3D manufacture on the Pre-Size trucks.? His 'T' section Bettendorf's are also of the sprung variety.? All Simon's and Pre-Size trucks go nicely with his kits and also the (sold out) NYC Spec 486 boxcar kit he and I did 4 or 5 years ago. Jim Kindraka
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 11:48?AM R. James Whipple wrote:
Jim K can answer as to whether he made any of these. But NASG sponsored a production run by Overland of T-section trucks in brass; they were very nice. And Pre-Size currently retails the 3D-printed trucks, also sprung, made by Miniatures from the North which come with M of?the N machined stainless steel wheels. Pre-Size catalog number is: PS567
Jim Whipple Pittsburgh PA
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Re: Restarting model building...
Jim K can answer as to whether he made any of these. But NASG sponsored a production run by Overland of T-section trucks in brass; they were very nice. And Pre-Size currently retails the 3D-printed trucks, also sprung, made by Miniatures from the North which come with M of?the N machined stainless steel wheels. Pre-Size catalog number is: PS567
Jim Whipple Pittsburgh PA
I bought a couple pair of brass T-section Bettendorfs from Jim 4-5 years ago and am quite satisfied with them.? Whether they were his own creation or from an import I never knew.? They are not a commonly available type in S scale¡ªI think the only other source
is the former V&T white metal ones now available from Keith Wiseman.?
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 7:57?AM Mike Swederska asked:
Jim,
Question, did you cast your trucks in brass??
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Not 100% sure of your question?? If you are asking whether I personally cast brass, the answer is 'No'.? That is done using a third party brass caster in California.? I've worked with Scott MacKenzie to create 3D files after tracking down all the necessary
dimensional drawings.? Over the years, I've accumulated probably a hundred truck drawings, most for 50 & 55 ton steam-era trucks.? The next step is creating oversize master patterns from those 3D files using Stereolithography (SLA).? Once tested and checked
for form and fit, those patterns can go to the caster...
It is not an inexpensive way to make parts and the trucks are not as detailed as SMMW, but they satisfy my needs.? I've probably done 10 (or more) different trucks that way - 'T' section Bettendorfs to a couple contemporary styles of 70" wheelbase, 100-ton
Barbers.? I guess trucks have become a bit of an expensive obsession.?
Take care...
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI
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Dick Karnes, MMR
ken garber
Bill Lane
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