Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
That¡¯s some majorly serious brass weaving!
Ben Trousdale
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Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
Hi Dave --
I remember some of those photos of your turnouts.? ?Seemed like it might have been easier to take a solid plate and mill out the flangeways!
Good to hear from you and I hope you had a fine turkey day! Bill Winans ----------------------------
Bill, I always enjoy pictures of your trackwork. You can get such nice flowing tracks by hand laying it.?
Before I built my last layout, I looked at buying the jigs, but I would have needed so many variations, and some for only one turnout, so I didn't buy any. It was a good decision. One of the first turnouts I built for that layout was a 48"/44" curved dual gauge turnout. Originally I was planning on making the inner radius 45", but that made the turnout too large. It was large enough, and the K frog was huge, There was also a curved Sn2 track that ran across the two sets of rails just after the last frog. That layout had lots of curved turnouts, some asymmetrical wye turnouts and all kinds of dual gauge variations. And then there were the three dual gauge three-way stub turnouts. My favorite was the one where all three routes curved the same way. It got to the point where laying a standard turnout was kind of boring.
The track work on my current layout is not quite as adventurous, but I'm not finished yet.?
Dave Heine ------------------------ Learning how to hand lay turnouts allows for a lot of peculiar turnout shapes, various curved turnouts, asymmetrical?wyes, and so on.? ?Buying jigs for every possibility is grossly too expensive.? ?Building in place is fun.? If you mess with more?than one gauge, there are more than a dozen versions relating to dual gauge -- I know, because I think I have built at least one of every type.? Some photos are attached.? ?One is of a curved std gauge turnout of 75" and 78" radius that is two feet between the points and the frog, a #16.? You can't buy that!? There is also a photo of one of Dick Karnes' "puzzle tracks" where the turnouts also include a crossing through them.? Amazing!?
Have fun! Bill Winans
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Monster model works is offering a sale on their buildings. ?
?
?
David Clubine?
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
Bill, I always enjoy pictures of your trackwork. You can get such nice flowing tracks by hand laying it.?
Before I built my last layout, I looked at buying the jigs, but I would have needed so many variations, and some for only one turnout, so I didn't buy any. It was a good decision. One of the first turnouts I built for that layout was a 48"/44" curved dual gauge turnout. Originally I was planning on making the inner radius 45", but that made the turnout too large. It was large enough, and the K frog was huge, There was also a curved Sn2 track that ran across the two sets of rails just after the last frog. That layout had lots of curved turnouts, some asymmetrical wye turnouts and all kinds of dual gauge variations. And then there were the three dual gauge three-way stub turnouts. My favorite was the one where all three routes curved the same way. It got to the point where laying a standard turnout was kind of boring.
The track work on my current layout is not quite as adventurous, but I'm not finished yet.?
Dave Heine ?
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 12:16?AM William Winans via <3W2scalesonly= [email protected]> wrote: Learning how to hand lay turnouts allows for a lot of peculiar turnout shapes, various curved turnouts, asymmetrical?wyes, and so on.? ?Buying jigs for every possibility is grossly too expensive.? ?Building in place is fun.? If you mess with more?than one gauge, there are more than a dozen versions relating to dual gauge -- I know, because I think I have built at least one of every type.? Some photos are attached.? ?One is of a curved std gauge turnout of 75" and 78" radius that is two feet between the points and the frog, a #16.? You can't buy that!? There is also a photo of one of Dick Karnes' "puzzle tracks" where the turnouts also include a crossing through them.? Amazing!?
Have fun! Bill Winans ----------------------------
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 6:47?PM Richard Dombrowski via <heisler3x3= [email protected]> wrote:
I have used the fast tracks jigs in the past and found it goes
faster to make all the parts in batches rather than doing one
complete turnout. You get into a rhythm and playing music helps
too,
Rich D in Maine
On 11/28/2024 3:44 PM, Charles Kinzer
via wrote:
I think many feel that
building their own switches is some sort of daunting process.?
But if you can do some basic soldering, cutting of rail,
filing, and such, it is really just a bunch of individual
steps strung that I feel are well within most modeler's
capabilities.
Most of the switches at the
Central Coast Model Railroad at the San Luis Obispo Railroad
Museum were made using Fast Track fixtures.? Somebody with
average skills made most of them.? I don't think there is any
high skill level needed for any of the steps.? Just follow the
steps they have on their web site.
For somebody balking at the
idea of making their own switches, it might at least be worth
giving it a try.? Fast Track says the first switch might take
you three hours but eventually you can get it down to 45
minutes.? And many sizes AND wyes AND curved turnouts.
Yes.? It is a lot more work
than just buying them ready made.? But it does solve the
problem of "i can't find ready made switches I need."
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 12:06:33 PM PST, Bill
Roberts <bill@...> wrote:
> From: John Hutnick
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:30:17 PST
>
> . . . I suggest . . . building your own.
. . Give it a try.
For those who cannot wait for drop-in
turnouts, attached is a two-part Dick Karnes article on
building your own.
Dick uses an unusual approach to making the
frog. I myself have not built any turnouts using his
method, so I cannot comment on his technique. Instead, I
saved the article to try out on my next layout.
Otherwise, the recent discussion has revealed
many options for S scalers beyond the beginner stage. I
found the most interesting was the reference by TC
Talmadge to the kits from S Scale Track Works <>
that include the frog, guard rails, and point rails.
¡ª
Bill Roberts
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Re: such a deal--no inflation--no gouging, but these aren't made anymore either!
Hi Bob, Shinohara turnouts - yes, looking for the #6 ones.? Nobody likes them, but I love them!? Let me know.
Charles Williams
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The Heralds are now in the dumpster--the recycling one!
Next up is the Tru Scale wooden roadbed and some Shinoraha turnouts--next week for those!
Bob Werre
Hey
Spouse are dangerous to train stuff ?
?
My wife pants with excitement at the thought of throwing more things out¡ªat our ages not yet grounds for divorce but a serious difference of opinion.
S Heads,? I've been given a small stack of S Gauge Heralds.? So anybody with $12.00 for shipping only, can receive these valuable timeless issues!? I just want to cover the shipping costs.? I'll occasionally dig out an article mentioned on
this list--then I spend a couple of hours looking over other issues.? Names from the past will enrich your knowledge of our merry band!?
Hurry, cause, my wife is on a terror campaign to unearth some room for more of her things!? Not to mention the garbage can is now empty leaving lots of room!
Bob Werre
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Re: Black Friday sale--it's really just a great time to buy from the BBB!
As to old mags that don't sell -? I take piles to any train shows and put on the FREE table. Of course, what I consider rare, I might try to sell by bundles at a show.? Jeff Madden
Shane,? I sold several from a prior set
of offerings, just not the right time for your needs I guess.? Of
course eventually my stuff will be sold but right now, I'm
enjoying them just a bit too much.? So I guess that means you'll
have to stay around? few more years past my expiration date!
Bob Werre
I'm looking for 50 foot double door box cars from
S Scale America. I don't see any of those in your picture.
? What can I say?? Please don't ignore the clearance sale
the BBB seems to be running constantly--yes corporate
greed running wild!? I think it was Jay Leno once said
that Mattresses are always on sale!? I don't get many
sales offers from hobby shops --their just waiting till I
collect my % from my sales--like a tariff perhaps!
Anyway many of these freight cars are still available ,
SHS/AM (attached), I also mentioned that I've got some
very desirable brass (SP cabooses, (painted), RR open
hopper (painted+lettered), a couple of SouthWind passenger
cars, an Overland E9 E unit,? AM PA's and E units too.?
Coming up will be some realestate Bar Mills, man those
kits are great!
And last but certainly not least, I have one large batch
of AM,Rex and mis cars that are great stocking stuffers,
or even better, buy the lot for a few $$ and tell the wife
that you bought all those cars for almost nothing then
she'll forgive you for those really expensive brass
thoughts!
Bob Werre
BBB
I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and
I was hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one
though Sunday night on Tomalco Track but that's probably
not what you are looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024,
10:03 AM Mike Swederska via
<MikeSscale= [email protected]>
wrote:
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from
any of the S-Scale Hobby Shop¡¯s? I normally get one
from Des Plains and other Hobby Shop¡¯s that I¡¯ve
done business with but this year the only one I got
was Tonystrainexchange and it was for N & HO
Scale Locomotive¡¯s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough!
Keep model railroading fun!
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Re: Black Friday sale--it's really just a great time to buy from the BBB!
Shane,? I sold several from a prior set
of offerings, just not the right time for your needs I guess.? Of
course eventually my stuff will be sold but right now, I'm
enjoying them just a bit too much.? So I guess that means you'll
have to stay around? few more years past my expiration date!
Bob Werre
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I'm looking for 50 foot double door box cars from
S Scale America. I don't see any of those in your picture.
? What can I say?? Please don't ignore the clearance sale
the BBB seems to be running constantly--yes corporate
greed running wild!? I think it was Jay Leno once said
that Mattresses are always on sale!? I don't get many
sales offers from hobby shops --their just waiting till I
collect my % from my sales--like a tariff perhaps!
Anyway many of these freight cars are still available ,
SHS/AM (attached), I also mentioned that I've got some
very desirable brass (SP cabooses, (painted), RR open
hopper (painted+lettered), a couple of SouthWind passenger
cars, an Overland E9 E unit,? AM PA's and E units too.?
Coming up will be some realestate Bar Mills, man those
kits are great!
And last but certainly not least, I have one large batch
of AM,Rex and mis cars that are great stocking stuffers,
or even better, buy the lot for a few $$ and tell the wife
that you bought all those cars for almost nothing then
she'll forgive you for those really expensive brass
thoughts!
Bob Werre
BBB
I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and
I was hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one
though Sunday night on Tomalco Track but that's probably
not what you are looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024,
10:03 AM Mike Swederska via
<MikeSscale= [email protected]>
wrote:
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from
any of the S-Scale Hobby Shop¡¯s? I normally get one
from Des Plains and other Hobby Shop¡¯s that I¡¯ve
done business with but this year the only one I got
was Tonystrainexchange and it was for N & HO
Scale Locomotive¡¯s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough!
Keep model railroading fun!
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Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving with family!
As a Black Friday special, we are offering 10% off any of our products sold via this group through Sunday December 1st at midnight. You can see all our offerings on our Ebay store-
You should be able to search specific items within our store using "S Helper", "Amer Models" etc.
If you'd like to purchase any of our items, you need to contact us directly via email at DepotGHobbies at outlook dot com with a description of the item and your zip code for shipping. We'll respond as to availability, price and shipping. This discount is not available through Ebay directly.
Best regards,
Jim Marski/Depot G Hobbies/'Jeeps' on Ebay  ?
?
?
?
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Re: Black Friday sale--it's really just a great time to buy from the BBB!
I'm looking for 50 foot double door box cars from S Scale America. I don't see any of those in your picture.
? What can I say?? Please don't ignore the clearance sale the BBB
seems to be running constantly--yes corporate greed running wild!?
I think it was Jay Leno once said that Mattresses are always on
sale!? I don't get many sales offers from hobby shops --their just
waiting till I collect my % from my sales--like a tariff perhaps!
Anyway many of these freight cars are still available , SHS/AM
(attached), I also mentioned that I've got some very desirable
brass (SP cabooses, (painted), RR open hopper (painted+lettered),
a couple of SouthWind passenger cars, an Overland E9 E unit,? AM
PA's and E units too.? Coming up will be some realestate Bar
Mills, man those kits are great!
And last but certainly not least, I have one large batch of
AM,Rex and mis cars that are great stocking stuffers, or even
better, buy the lot for a few $$ and tell the wife that you bought
all those cars for almost nothing then she'll forgive you for
those really expensive brass thoughts!
Bob Werre
BBB
I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and I was
hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one though Sunday
night on Tomalco Track but that's probably not what you are
looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024, 10:03 AM
Mike Swederska via <MikeSscale= [email protected]>
wrote:
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from any of
the S-Scale Hobby Shop¡¯s? I normally get one from Des Plains
and other Hobby Shop¡¯s that I¡¯ve done business with but this
year the only one I got was Tonystrainexchange and it was
for N & HO Scale Locomotive¡¯s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep
model railroading fun!
|
Re: "S"pousal arrangements.....
Those of us who attended that
convention might also recall a shoving match that happened too,
involving one of those individuals.?
However, I also remember having a great
time during the entire event!
Bob Werre
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OH MY GOSH!!!!?
Roger Haag
?
Many of us knew a
gentleman in the Chicago area with a large HO
collection.? He wanted to switch to S scale and started
buying S stuff.? His wife was concerned about the cost
and was told the money was coming from the sale of all
the HO trains.? She calmed down and life went on.?
Eventually, the gentleman passed and the wife had the
task of cleaning out all the train stuff down in the
basement.? Imagine her surprise at finding all his HO
trains in a locked storage area adjacent to the train
area.? I hear she was rather upset and moved to Mexico.?
We all do it differently......
Cheers........Ed L.
--
Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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Re: Black Friday sale--it's really just a great time to buy from the BBB!
? What can I say?? Please don't ignore the clearance sale the BBB
seems to be running constantly--yes corporate greed running wild!?
I think it was Jay Leno once said that Mattresses are always on
sale!? I don't get many sales offers from hobby shops --their just
waiting till I collect my % from my sales--like a tariff perhaps!
Anyway many of these freight cars are still available , SHS/AM
(attached), I also mentioned that I've got some very desirable
brass (SP cabooses, (painted), RR open hopper (painted+lettered),
a couple of SouthWind passenger cars, an Overland E9 E unit,? AM
PA's and E units too.? Coming up will be some realestate Bar
Mills, man those kits are great!
And last but certainly not least, I have one large batch of
AM,Rex and mis cars that are great stocking stuffers, or even
better, buy the lot for a few $$ and tell the wife that you bought
all those cars for almost nothing then she'll forgive you for
those really expensive brass thoughts!
Bob Werre
BBB
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Show quoted text
I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and I was
hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one though Sunday
night on Tomalco Track but that's probably not what you are
looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024, 10:03 AM
Mike Swederska via <MikeSscale= [email protected]>
wrote:
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from any of
the S-Scale Hobby Shop¡¯s? I normally get one from Des Plains
and other Hobby Shop¡¯s that I¡¯ve done business with but this
year the only one I got was Tonystrainexchange and it was
for N & HO Scale Locomotive¡¯s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep
model railroading fun!
|
Hello Mike,
? ? The only train site that I saw offering a Black Friday sale is Tichy Train Group.? There sale is the more you buy the bigger the discount.? They do have S-scale items.
?
?
?
Regards,
David Henley
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Re: "S"pousal arrangements.....
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On Nov 29, 2024, at 12:35?AM, Ed Loizeaux <Loizeaux@...> wrote:
?
Many of us knew a gentleman in the Chicago area with a large HO collection.? He wanted to switch to S scale and started buying S stuff.? His wife was concerned about the cost and was told the money was coming from the sale
of all the HO trains.? She calmed down and life went on.? Eventually, the gentleman passed and the wife had the task of cleaning out all the train stuff down in the basement.? Imagine her surprise at finding all his HO trains in a locked storage area adjacent
to the train area.? I hear she was rather upset and moved to Mexico.? We all do it differently......
Cheers........Ed L.
--
Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and I was hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one though Sunday night on Tomalco Track but that's probably not what you are looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024, 10:03 AM Mike Swederska via <MikeSscale= [email protected]> wrote: Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from any of the S-Scale Hobby Shop¡¯s? I normally get one from Des Plains and other Hobby Shop¡¯s that I¡¯ve done business with but this year the only one I got was Tonystrainexchange and it was for N & HO Scale Locomotive¡¯s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!
|
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from any of the S-Scale Hobby Shop¡¯s? I normally get one from Des Plains and other Hobby Shop¡¯s that I¡¯ve done business with but this year the only one I got was Tonystrainexchange and it was for N & HO Scale Locomotive¡¯s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!
|
"S"pousal arrangements.....
Many of us knew a gentleman in the Chicago area with a large HO collection.? He wanted to switch to S scale and started buying S stuff.? His wife was concerned about the cost and was told the money was coming from the sale of all the HO trains.? She calmed down and life went on.? Eventually, the gentleman passed and the wife had the task of cleaning out all the train stuff down in the basement.? Imagine her surprise at finding all his HO trains in a locked storage area adjacent to the train area.? I hear she was rather upset and moved to Mexico.? We all do it differently......
Cheers........Ed L. -- Ed Loizeaux Los Altos, CA
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
Learning how to hand lay turnouts allows for a lot of peculiar turnout shapes, various curved turnouts, asymmetrical?wyes, and so on.? ?Buying jigs for every possibility is grossly too expensive.? ?Building in place is fun.? If you mess with more?than one gauge, there are more than a dozen versions relating to dual gauge -- I know, because I think I have built at least one of every type.? Some photos are attached.? ?One is of a curved std gauge turnout of 75" and 78" radius that is two feet between the points and the frog, a #16.? You can't buy that!? There is also a photo of one of Dick Karnes' "puzzle tracks" where the turnouts also include a crossing through them.? Amazing!?
Have fun! Bill Winans ----------------------------
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 6:47?PM Richard Dombrowski via <heisler3x3= [email protected]> wrote:
I have used the fast tracks jigs in the past and found it goes
faster to make all the parts in batches rather than doing one
complete turnout. You get into a rhythm and playing music helps
too,
Rich D in Maine
On 11/28/2024 3:44 PM, Charles Kinzer
via wrote:
I think many feel that
building their own switches is some sort of daunting process.?
But if you can do some basic soldering, cutting of rail,
filing, and such, it is really just a bunch of individual
steps strung that I feel are well within most modeler's
capabilities.
Most of the switches at the
Central Coast Model Railroad at the San Luis Obispo Railroad
Museum were made using Fast Track fixtures.? Somebody with
average skills made most of them.? I don't think there is any
high skill level needed for any of the steps.? Just follow the
steps they have on their web site.
For somebody balking at the
idea of making their own switches, it might at least be worth
giving it a try.? Fast Track says the first switch might take
you three hours but eventually you can get it down to 45
minutes.? And many sizes AND wyes AND curved turnouts.
Yes.? It is a lot more work
than just buying them ready made.? But it does solve the
problem of "i can't find ready made switches I need."
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 12:06:33 PM PST, Bill
Roberts <bill@...> wrote:
> From: John Hutnick
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:30:17 PST
>
> . . . I suggest . . . building your own.
. . Give it a try.
For those who cannot wait for drop-in
turnouts, attached is a two-part Dick Karnes article on
building your own.
Dick uses an unusual approach to making the
frog. I myself have not built any turnouts using his
method, so I cannot comment on his technique. Instead, I
saved the article to try out on my next layout.
Otherwise, the recent discussion has revealed
many options for S scalers beyond the beginner stage. I
found the most interesting was the reference by TC
Talmadge to the kits from S Scale Track Works <>
that include the frog, guard rails, and point rails.
¡ª
Bill Roberts
|
Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
Group,
Hand-laying switches by Ed Reutling from O Scale Trains Magazine, May/June 2004.? Two jpgs below.
I opted for copper clad ties for the points and frog area.? Not intimidating and it works.
?
Thank you,
Matt Hogan
?
?
?
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
I have used Fasttrack to make double slips.
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 8:47 PM, Richard Dombrowski via groups.io <heisler3x3@...> wrote:
I have used the fast tracks jigs in the past and found it goes
faster to make all the parts in batches rather than doing one
complete turnout. You get into a rhythm and playing music helps
too,
Rich D in Maine
On 11/28/2024 3:44 PM, Charles Kinzer
via groups.io wrote:
I think many feel that
building their own switches is some sort of daunting process.?
But if you can do some basic soldering, cutting of rail,
filing, and such, it is really just a bunch of individual
steps strung that I feel are well within most modeler's
capabilities.
Most of the switches at the
Central Coast Model Railroad at the San Luis Obispo Railroad
Museum were made using Fast Track fixtures.? Somebody with
average skills made most of them.? I don't think there is any
high skill level needed for any of the steps.? Just follow the
steps they have on their web site.
For somebody balking at the
idea of making their own switches, it might at least be worth
giving it a try.? Fast Track says the first switch might take
you three hours but eventually you can get it down to 45
minutes.? And many sizes AND wyes AND curved turnouts.
Yes.? It is a lot more work
than just buying them ready made.? But it does solve the
problem of "i can't find ready made switches I need."
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 12:06:33 PM PST, Bill
Roberts <bill@...> wrote:
> From: John Hutnick
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:30:17 PST
>
> . . . I suggest . . . building your own.
. . Give it a try.
For those who cannot wait for drop-in
turnouts, attached is a two-part Dick Karnes article on
building your own.
Dick uses an unusual approach to making the
frog. I myself have not built any turnouts using his
method, so I cannot comment on his technique. Instead, I
saved the article to try out on my next layout.
Otherwise, the recent discussion has revealed
many options for S scalers beyond the beginner stage. I
found the most interesting was the reference by TC
Talmadge to the kits from S Scale Track Works <>
that include the frog, guard rails, and point rails.
¡ª
Bill Roberts
|
Ben
Charles Williams
Bob Werre
Roger Haag
