There are also sets of variously sized small tools designed for cleaning keyboards that fit onto standard vacuum hoses. ? The one I have allows one to adjust the level of suction?
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On Jul 3, 2024, at 9:10?PM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io <ckinzer@...> wrote:
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For the Central Coast Model Railroad (part of the San Luis Obispo Railroad Museum) I got a nice Dewalt vacuum.? No, it is not miniature, but kits of smaller accessories are available.
First, none of this seems to be what you are looking for.? I just provide it as some background.
We found the regular cheap Craftsman shop vacs put a LOT of dust back into the air.? If somebody did some vacuuming in one area of the room, trains would not run in that area until the virtually invisible fine dust was cleaned off the rail heads.
It is the DeWalt DCV581H.? It is both corded and cordless and it is VERY handy to just grab it and use it on battery for a quick clean up job.? It is very well sealed and does not spew dust.? This is the vacuum.? You buy the battery and charger separately.
We also bought some brand of automotive detailing attachments that were of small size.? I don't remember what.? DeWalt has one.? I could not find it on Amazon, but maybe it is there.? Here it is at Home Depot.
There are many such kits under "Car Cleaning" or "Automotive" or "Micro" or "keyboard crevice cleaning" attachments.
Of course, this is still a big bulky vacuum, but it will do everything.? You might look at smaller DeWalt offerings that have good filtering in them.
For your need, this is not miniature as what you are looking for, but miniature usually doesn't work very well in my opinion.
If I were looking for something smaller, I might consider this smaller Dewalt.? I have no personal experience, but the reviews suggest it is in a difference class than the $30 vacuums that just don't work very well.
Come to think of it, I may have to get one, try it out, and donate it to the museum railroad as an alternative to the larger DeWalt 581.? Or maybe keep it to replace my nearly useless "Dustbuster.'
It does seem that really good vacuums do cost a bit.? But a lousy vacuum is not very satisfying.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 06:26:03 PM PDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
For a lot of years I've been work'in one the
railroad, but the heavy work of dealing with the table saws,
routers and the like has been reduced and likewise so has the
sawdust they caused.? When I built the train-room I used a large
red Sears shop vac to great advantage for a lot of that period.?
Later a smaller unit was added, then again after that an even
smaller unit plus a small carpet type vacuum has helped along
the isles.? Now I find myself looking to go even into the
sub-miniature class.? Most of my needs are a single hole in a
finished area where I'm not wanting to spend the time dealing
with hoses, cords, big batteries and misplaced attachments.?
Just like a war effort--a surgical strike is called for.
So I've started my search on Amazon, since they
always seem to have an overwhelming choice.? What if any, are
you Suzie homemakers using!
Bob Werre
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Hello Chris and All, Thanks to Jace and Ed for saying positive things about our convention, well, conventions in general, but we're next. One day registration is $30. No NASG membership required. You can pay at the door.
?The vendor hall is slated to be open Thursday evening from 6:30 to 9:30. Friday it will be open from 9:00 until 5:00, and Saturday 9:00 until noon. I can't promise anything, but there are usually deals?to be had. Too bad you can't stay for the auction Saturday night. There are often some very good deals there.?
If you, or anyone else still needs a hotel room, contact me. I think I can still get you in at the convention rate.
And while I'm talking about conventions and auctions, remember good items make good auctions. Clear off some shelf space. You get 90% of the sales price with only 10% going to the NASG.
Jamie Bothwell Susquehannock II Convention Co-chairman
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 08:18 AM, Chris Fauxturkey wrote:
is it worth it to drive 170 miles for that alone? What is the cost of admission (for members obviously).
Hi Chris........
Your question is rather subjective and different folks will have different opinions.? Here is the way I look at it:
One night hotel =? $135?
Driving cost = $227? (IRS allows 67 cents per mile which resembles actual total driving cost.)
Meals =? $80 ($40 per day to/from)
Registration fee = not shown on website = $40 (guesstimate)
Total out-of-pocket costs = $ 482
So, in order to break even financially, you would have to find $482 worth of "juicy deals" to make the trip "worth it".? Is that easy?? Or hard?? How "juicy" does a deal need to be?? One big "juicy" deal on a brass steam engine might do the job all by itself.? Or, numerous "less juicy" deals on smaller items might add up to match your costs.? Who knows how to predict what you will find?
Not to mention all the intangible reasons for attending a convention:? face-time with good friends, clinics to learn new skills, real RR experiences and so forth.? All of these intangible reasons are probably more important to many folks than the cold hard financial facts.? Each to this own, I suppose.
How much is pure unadulterated fun worth?
That's how I look at it.?
Good luck and have fun..........Ed Loizeaux
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Thanks Ted and Chuck? what I've been
looking at are much smaller units that are between a 'toy ray gun'
and a smaller power drill.? With capacity being only a couple of
ounces perhaps.? Dust is collected in a small cup that is just
dumped.? Most claim to have a HEPA filter that's washable.? Unit's
seem to be priced at $40-75!? I'm mainly looking for something I
can almost keep in my tool bag.? Battery life needs only be 15
minutes and dirt capacity? a pint!? Brand names,??? since all seem
to be Chinese made without Hoover, Eureka or Shop Vac in the mix.
Bob Werre
Just dirty in Houston!
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A cheap shop vac (cannister
vac), I'm pretty sure, is inherently incapable of being sealed
will enough.? Something like that DeWalt 581 is really an
entirely different animal from the cheap shop vacs..
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 07:05:14 AM PDT, Ted Larson
via groups.io <mhrreast@...> wrote:
Regarding dust blowing out of a vacuum cleaner exhaust,
there are different filter grades available, finer
filters clog sooner, but do trap smaller dust. ?
Sent from my
Tardis
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Ted Larson
trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org???????
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Re: S Gaugian Magazine Back Issues
Dale, Thank You very much for your email and the attached magazine info. I won't be attending the convention. Perhaps at another point in time we could get together in order that I could obtain PDF copies of the earliest S Gaugian Magazines. John Keating
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 12:59?AM Dale Minard via <daleminard= [email protected]> wrote: John,
I've attached a list of the S-Gaugian magazines that were published over the years.? I was in contact with Don his last couple of months and then his widow working to ensure his personal collection of S-Gaugian magazines was saved.? I'll be at the convention later this month if you'd like to make some PDF copies of what you're missing.
FYI, the first couple of years worth of magazines were indeed mimeographed and are not in the best of shape.
Dale Minard
Vista, Calif
NASG Librarian?
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On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 08:18 AM, Chris Fauxturkey wrote:
is it worth it to drive 170 miles for that alone? What is the cost of admission (for members obviously).
Hi Chris........ Your question is rather subjective and different folks will have different opinions.? Here is the way I look at it: One night hotel =? $135? Driving cost = $227? (IRS allows 67 cents per mile which resembles actual total driving cost.) Meals =? $80 ($40 per day to/from) Registration fee = not shown on website = $40 (guesstimate) Total out-of-pocket costs = $ 482 So, in order to break even financially, you would have to find $482 worth of "juicy deals" to make the trip "worth it".? Is that easy?? Or hard?? How "juicy" does a deal need to be?? One big "juicy" deal on a brass steam engine might do the job all by itself.? Or, numerous "less juicy" deals on smaller items might add up to match your costs.? Who knows how to predict what you will find? Not to mention all the intangible reasons for attending a convention:? face-time with good friends, clinics to learn new skills, real RR experiences and so forth.? All of these intangible reasons are probably more important to many folks than the cold hard financial facts.? Each to this own, I suppose. How much is pure unadulterated fun worth? That's how I look at it.? Good luck and have fun..........Ed Loizeaux -- Ed Loizeaux Los Altos, CA
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I'd say, yes, it is worth it if you are looking for unusual items, usually at good prices.? Wednesday night is dealer set up, so Thursday is the first real day for the vendor hall.? There is provision for a one-day admission.
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Hello y'all. Would like to hear from those who have attended in the past, and some comments on the vendor situation/s. I definitely won't be attending on the weekend, if at all, and in fact I'd probably only be able to attend 1 day, Thursday.
There doesn't appear to be any vendors on Wednesday. So, is it worth it to drive 170 miles for that alone? What is the cost of admission (for members obviously).
I basically attend long distance train meets to obtain rare items, or to find juicy deals. Wondering if it's worth my time. Thanks.
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A cheap shop vac (cannister vac), I'm pretty sure, is inherently incapable of being sealed will enough.? Something like that DeWalt 581 is really an entirely different animal from the cheap shop vacs..
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 07:05:14 AM PDT, Ted Larson via groups.io <mhrreast@...> wrote:
Regarding dust blowing out of a vacuum cleaner exhaust, there are different filter grades available, finer filters clog sooner, but do trap smaller dust. ? Sent from my Tardis
-- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965
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Hello y'all. Would like to hear from those who have attended in the past, and some comments on the vendor situation/s. I definitely won't be attending on the weekend, if at all, and in fact I'd probably only be able to attend 1 day, Thursday. There doesn't appear to be any vendors on Wednesday. So, is it worth it to drive 170 miles for that alone? What is the cost of admission (for members obviously).
I basically attend long distance train meets to obtain rare items, or to find juicy deals. Wondering if it's worth my time. Thanks.
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Im pretty certain the article was in the NASG magazine. You can probably down load from the members area
Colin Stewart Inverness? Scotland?
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On 4 Jul 2024, at 15:23, William Morris via groups.io <classicaudioservice@...> wrote:
?Jace:? Andy Mallett wrote an article in one of the magazines (I? do not remember er but possibly I believe S? Scale Resource? on line ? ) about how to rebuild the original F unit drives. After rebuilding mine with slight variations from his instructions and replacing all the drive shafts / U joints with Hobby town components my original drive I would say runs just as well or better than the re-drives kits for them do.? I rep[aced the center bolster washer with a round transistor insulating plastic piece that works just fine which allows the geartower to rub up against it keeping the gear tower straight even when cornering which removes the binding that made the original units become unusable. The re-drives are good for replacing the Omnicon GP drives with other mods. I have done one of these now also. Maybe someone else can point to the exact magazine / article issue. I believe Bill Winans also published another fix for the gearbox drives shaft lengths being too long also causing binding issues. I did both fixes with good results.
Bill Morris?
NEPrototypes
PO Box 4-4-2?
Rutland MA 01543-0442 USA
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Jace:? Andy Mallett wrote an article in one of the magazines (I? do not remember er but possibly I believe S? Scale Resource? on line ? ) about how to rebuild the original F unit drives. After rebuilding mine with slight variations from his instructions and replacing all the drive shafts / U joints with Hobby town components my original drive I would say runs just as well or better than the re-drives kits for them do.? I rep[aced the center bolster washer with a round transistor insulating plastic piece that works just fine which allows the geartower to rub up against it keeping the gear tower straight even when cornering which removes the binding that made the original units become unusable. The re-drives are good for replacing the Omnicon GP drives with other mods. I have done one of these now also. Maybe someone else can point to the exact magazine / article issue. I believe Bill Winans also published another fix for the gearbox drives shaft lengths being too long also causing binding issues. I did both fixes with good results.
Bill Morris?
NEPrototypes
PO Box 4-4-2?
Rutland MA 01543-0442 USA
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These are some new to me Reading locos. They are all a lil rough around the edges and need some work. Could not pass up the Oriental SW1 for that price. It is a good 2 footer but has the wrong headlight for Reading. It might become Norfolk Southern at some point. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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I have a vac that uses my power tools batteries, and it has a small nozzle?attachment, very powerful? Sent from my Tardis
-- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965
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Regarding dust blowing out of a vacuum cleaner exhaust, there are different filter grades available, finer filters clog sooner, but do trap smaller dust. ? Sent from my Tardis
-- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965
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Slipping motor coupling are an easy fix. ? Shaft is at left. .020 wire through the coupling. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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I too used Shapeways for some of my 3D printing needs - especially when I found something in their Marketplace of interest to me. That having been said, my go-to company for 3D printing (both from their personal catalog and my own custom designs) is CatzPaw Innovations, LLC -- Sherri Johnson and her team have never let me down. They are experienced professionals who strive to make sure your prints are high quality and you are satisfied. I'd tried several other 3D printing firms (all disappointing) before finding CatzPaw and I am honored to promote them whenever possible. I highly recommend them to the members of this list.
Phil Scandura
Flagstaff, AZ
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Re: S Gaugian Magazine Back Issues
John,
I've attached a list of the S-Gaugian magazines that were published over the years.? I was in contact with Don his last couple of months and then his widow working to ensure his personal collection of S-Gaugian magazines was saved.? I'll be at the convention later this month if you'd like to make some PDF copies of what you're missing.
FYI, the first couple of years worth of magazines were indeed mimeographed and are not in the best of shape.
Dale Minard
Vista, Calif
NASG Librarian?
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Re: S Gaugian Magazine Back Issues
Ed, Thank You for excellent suggestion. John Keating
On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 10:07?PM John Keating via <Keating.j.t.43= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the reply. I think we¡¯ve all had one of those moments.
John Keating
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For the Central Coast Model Railroad (part of the San Luis Obispo Railroad Museum) I got a nice Dewalt vacuum.? No, it is not miniature, but kits of smaller accessories are available.
First, none of this seems to be what you are looking for.? I just provide it as some background.
We found the regular cheap Craftsman shop vacs put a LOT of dust back into the air.? If somebody did some vacuuming in one area of the room, trains would not run in that area until the virtually invisible fine dust was cleaned off the rail heads.
It is the DeWalt DCV581H.? It is both corded and cordless and it is VERY handy to just grab it and use it on battery for a quick clean up job.? It is very well sealed and does not spew dust.? This is the vacuum.? You buy the battery and charger separately.
We also bought some brand of automotive detailing attachments that were of small size.? I don't remember what.? DeWalt has one.? I could not find it on Amazon, but maybe it is there.? Here it is at Home Depot.
There are many such kits under "Car Cleaning" or "Automotive" or "Micro" or "keyboard crevice cleaning" attachments.
Of course, this is still a big bulky vacuum, but it will do everything.? You might look at smaller DeWalt offerings that have good filtering in them.
For your need, this is not miniature as what you are looking for, but miniature usually doesn't work very well in my opinion.
If I were looking for something smaller, I might consider this smaller Dewalt.? I have no personal experience, but the reviews suggest it is in a difference class than the $30 vacuums that just don't work very well.
Come to think of it, I may have to get one, try it out, and donate it to the museum railroad as an alternative to the larger DeWalt 581.? Or maybe keep it to replace my nearly useless "Dustbuster.'
It does seem that really good vacuums do cost a bit.? But a lousy vacuum is not very satisfying.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 06:26:03 PM PDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
For a lot of years I've been work'in one the
railroad, but the heavy work of dealing with the table saws,
routers and the like has been reduced and likewise so has the
sawdust they caused.? When I built the train-room I used a large
red Sears shop vac to great advantage for a lot of that period.?
Later a smaller unit was added, then again after that an even
smaller unit plus a small carpet type vacuum has helped along
the isles.? Now I find myself looking to go even into the
sub-miniature class.? Most of my needs are a single hole in a
finished area where I'm not wanting to spend the time dealing
with hoses, cords, big batteries and misplaced attachments.?
Just like a war effort--a surgical strike is called for.
So I've started my search on Amazon, since they
always seem to have an overwhelming choice.? What if any, are
you Suzie homemakers using!
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx
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Re: S Gaugian Magazine Back Issues
Thanks for the reply. I think we¡¯ve all had one of those moments.
John Keating
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 05:52 PM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
am wondering whether it is worth the trouble of replacing the original drive.
Thoughts?? Advice?
Jace.......One way to look at this situation is to realize that if the original drive was good, there would be no need for an upgraded drive.? Why would River Raisin make an upgraded drive if the original drive was perfectly satisfactory?? Perhaps you could do a test run with each drive and hear/see the difference for yourself.? Just a thought.? Ed L. ? -- Ed Loizeaux Los Altos, CA
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