Re: Just in time--Independence celebration!
Bob,
My guess they ?are going to cost several gopher tails apiece.. ??
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On Jul 1, 2024, at 11:49 AM, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
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Friends, blowing up things with firecrackers was great fun, but I used to get only 20 Black-cats for 10 cents and even with some clever pyro work they only lasted a few minutes!? Mom said they used to get their" 4th of July" spending money
by turning in Gopher tails.
Now fast forward some ???? years you will have the opportunity
to add? wonderfully detailed brass cabooses from Gold Coast Models to end up with more than a singed finger and burned newspaper scraps.? So it's time to dig out all those Gopher tails--the county guy would give out has much as a nickel per!
I have 4 of those models--1 UP & 3 SP in different flavors!
Coming soon!
Bob Werre
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Just in time--Independence celebration!
Friends, blowing up things with firecrackers was
great fun, but I used to get only 20 Black-cats for 10 cents and
even with some clever pyro work they only lasted a few minutes!?
Mom said they used to get their" 4th of July" spending money by
turning in Gopher tails.
Now fast forward some ???? years you will have
the opportunity to add? wonderfully detailed brass
cabooses from Gold Coast Models to end up with more than a singed
finger and burned newspaper scraps.? So it's time to dig out all
those Gopher tails--the county guy would give out has much as a
nickel per!
I have 4 of those models--1 UP & 3 SP in different flavors!
Coming soon!
Bob Werre
THE BBB
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Re: 1932 ARA boxcar update
I finally got this car assembled. Will paint when the humidity goes down. 
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Re: Fw: You Tube video of the Colorado and Western Railroad
Bob,
Yes I have seen it twice, but it's been a few years. He has a lot more standard gauge equipment now. The last time I was there he only?had the D&RGW L-131, which is huge in 1:22.5 scale. He said before he had the standard gauge, people visiting would say these trains were big and he had to say they're small, just built to a large scale. He also said there's 400 pounds of plaster hanging on his foyer walls.
Dave Heine
I usually don't mention other scales,but in this case it was
mention from Lindsey about our power grid and it's notable
failures--case in point!.? This series of u-Tube 's show one
noteable? very large-large scale layout with lots and lots of
scratch stuff!? Several in this group have talked about not really
building very much in our world of RTR.? Also the area given for
our layouts.? Well, all this flies in the face of of those
excuses!
I was able to cover Barry's first layout for MR many years ago in
a much smaller home with much smaller/lower ceilings--he mostly
used LGB the time--but like our Hi-rail efforts he
too grew with some effort & additional luck.? I know that Dave
Heine and several Narrow guys have seen the layout.
Bob Werre
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Guys:? ?Leighton Moreland was married
last month at the Rice Hotel in downtown Houston
recently. His friends from The Denver area came down
to be in the wedding. Mark Huber known as "Hyce" on
You Tube visited three layouts while in the Houston
area, mine being one of them. We just were so lucky
to have a storm come through the area while they
were here that knocked out the power. The guys
wanted to see my layout in the dark anyway, so I
gave a layout tour in the dark! I was embarrassed
that the trains did not run, but there was nothing I
could do about it! Mark and his friends decided to
come back after the power was restored and Blake and
I gave them a tour of the RR. I think he did a great
job of putting together a quick visit video of what
the railroad is all about. Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks, Barry chief of everything BLW. It's all fun!
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Re: From NYCSHS Members Group; NYC Electrics
Cars can arrive on their own wheels or by truck. Our recent Q baggage, JGWhittier, and Palm Lane came in on their own wheels. Our RI auto car came in by truck.?
We have experience in moving. It can be done!
Thought I would cross post this from the NYC Historical Society 'io' group.? Certainly anyone involved with 12" to the foot gauge preservation can identify.? I know there are a few guys on the list that volunteer with the Illinois Railway Museum and may have been part of similar experiences. ---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Stan Madyda
Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 1:26?PM
Subject: [NYCSHS-Members] Update on the NYC Electrics It has been a while since I posted what is happening with the electrics.?? In early November 2023, we loaded them onto the trailers for movement to Danbury.? From the time we needed to get a plan in place, we worked with Dagen Trucking of Castleton and Flach Rigging of Selkirk.? I can't say enough good things about the relationship we developed and the assistance they gave us.? Many times, we had deadlines from the Port of Albany that had to be met and everytime we came up to another deadline, there was a delay, not of our doing.? Through it all, Dagen and Flach would come out an access whatever had to be done.?? When we had to move the electrics out of the way for construction of a new road in December 2022, Flach and Dagen told us we would have to build up the area around where the electrics were place in order for them to get their equipment in.? This was going to add significant costs to the project, my team and I decided to wait to see what the Port's next move would be with the site.? Located close to the electrics there was an 11 foot high pile of stone, used to compress the ground where building were to go.? We figured at some point, that stone would have to be spread and we were right.? Around the electrics was a three and a half foot base, more than what Flach and Dagen required.? This first link is a video which shows the day everything got loaded onto the Dagen trailers.? The S Motor gave us some trouble since we did not remove all the connections holding the body to the chassis.? My Flach contact said there was no way to see them until they started lifting the body.? The T Motor was not a problem. ? Dagen had a fair amount of work to catch up on and said they could not deliver anything for several weeks.? This gave me a chance to figure out how to unload everything in Danbury.? Doing my due diligence, I contacted a few crane companies in the Danbury area for quotes.? My gut was telling me to use Flach, but having them come down from Selkirk would incur mobilization costs.? My Dagen contacts warned me that if they arrive in Danbury with the loads and everything was not set up properly, the costs would not be pretty.? I had a call with a crane consultant who advised that the extra costs to get Flach to come from Selkirk would be a good insurance policy.? I presented my findings to the board and they approved hiring Flach for the remainder of the project.? I was elated. Flach and Dagen came down before Christmas to map out a plan.? Delivery would be right after New Years. Because of a really tight curve entering the DRM yard, they would have to unload in the adjacent commuter parking lot using a gantry crane to transload onto a Self Propelled Modular Transport.? This could negotiate the curve and bring the pieces down to the unloading site.? The S Motor was left in two pieces so we could make repairs to the body and the frame.? The T Motor was reassembled .? Everything went according to plan.? Just one little hiccup occured when the two T Motor truck sections did not align so we could replace the pin.? We were able to figure out what to do in time for the body to be placed.? I later told my Flach contact what had happened and he said they could have helped us out.? Our videographer, Nick Ozorak, was on hand to document the delivery: Seeing the convoy arrive was for me a pinch me, this is actually happening moment.? I have yet to see any photos of the convoy.? The whole move was kept quiet as we did not want a lot of people getting in the way, especially near the areas where the public could have access.?? Yesterday we started work on the S Motor body taking off the flaking paint with wire brushes.? I would have like to started a little bit earlier, but a number of our volunteers were involved with needed trackwork.? The plan is to get the S Motor body ready for a protective paint job and then start on repairs.? We have to exercise the T Motor a bit and work on the journals and some of the articulation points.? We did have a minor derailment a week or so ago when we were moving her and we are thinking it is still a bit stiff from sitting up in Glenmont.? Three photos are attached.? We did get down to Alco/GE metal.? We also found that some of the rivets are copper and others were actually slotted bolts.?? Funding wise, we did exhaust the money raised and did have to dip into our reserves.? The board agreed to wipe the slate clean and start fresh for 2024.? We have received a $5,000 grant from the NRHS to kick things off.? We have some pledges for this year.? A friend of mine has given me a large collection of HO trains to try to sell with all proceeds going to the electrics.? I have about $1,000 to turn over.? Years ago, the Library/Archives which I also head up, decided to sell duplicate books on Amazon and we became a self funding entity within the museum.? Last year, I turned over $10,000 from accumulated funds to the electrics and this year the treasurer is looking at $15,000 which we have.? The board wonders why I have control over so much money.? Hey, you do the work, you raise money.? Contact me if there are any books you are looking for.? Quite a few from the Northeast and New York Central.?? Stan
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Fw: You Tube video of the Colorado and Western Railroad
I usually don't mention other scales,but in this case it was
mention from Lindsey about our power grid and it's notable
failures--case in point!.? This series of u-Tube 's show one
noteable? very large-large scale layout with lots and lots of
scratch stuff!? Several in this group have talked about not really
building very much in our world of RTR.? Also the area given for
our layouts.? Well, all this flies in the face of of those
excuses!
I was able to cover Barry's first layout for MR many years ago in
a much smaller home with much smaller/lower ceilings--he mostly
used LGB equipment.at the time--but like our Hi-rail efforts he
too grew with some effort & additional luck.? I know that Dave
Heine and several Narrow guys have seen the layout.
Bob Werre
-------- For
Guys:? ?Leighton Moreland was married
last month at the Rice Hotel in downtown Houston
recently. His friends from The Denver area came down
to be in the wedding. Mark Huber known as "Hyce" on
You Tube visited three layouts while in the Houston
area, mine being one of them. We just were so lucky
to have a storm come through the area while they
were here that knocked out the power. The guys
wanted to see my layout in the dark anyway, so I
gave a layout tour in the dark! I was embarrassed
that the trains did not run, but there was nothing I
could do about it! Mark and his friends decided to
come back after the power was restored and Blake and
I gave them a tour of the RR. I think he did a great
job of putting together a quick visit video of what
the railroad is all about. Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks, Barry chief of everything BLW. It's all fun!
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My custom high hood GP35 is closer to becoming Norfolk & Western. A 8 hour soak in Scalecoat plastic thinner did a pretty good job. The brass fans are going in today. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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For Sale - Tomalco Flex Track 70 & 83 - Homasote Roadbed *Local Pick up Only*
Group, For local pick up only:? Tomalco S scale flex track, code 70 (5) & 83 (10), homasote roadbed and switch pads in S & HO scale. Photos below. Send private reply. Thank you, Matt Hogan Ephrata, PA   
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I have an S Helper Service New York Central SW-9 for sale.
I purchased this engine a few years ago and it is supposed to have DCC with sound.
I paid a premium for this loco and turns out this engine has some issues.
I did hear the engine produce sound once, but the sound is not currently working.
Engine runs on DCC and has constant directional lighting.
The bell is missing/broken off.
There is some type of issue with the interchangeable front end which makes it hard to change it from the MU version.
I have attached pictures of both sides of the engine and I have a picture of the parts included in the box.
I am asking $150.00 plus $15.00 shipping to the lower 48.
If interested, contact me off group at wkschlinger@...
If accept PayPal friends and family and personal check for payment.
If you pay by check, I will ship the model once the check clears.
Wade Schlinger
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Does anyone know who made these marker lights? 1 just went missing. Do you have any that I could buy? ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: Locomotive Workshop Boxcar Restoration
One (of 2) waiting in the wings, withe resin ends and PRS roof. Just mocked up but in the queue. Another in the background. 
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Re: Locomotive Workshop Boxcar Restoration
Yea Brooks, there are several in my basement. I use the sides for differing projects. I did build one and decorate it THB. It was sold off a few years ago. It was a tough build. A few I have will get "upgraded" with resin ends and PRS parts. Besides PRS, it is the only way I know to get 10'6" 40' boxcars. The do take a considerable amount of prep before construction can begin!
Bruce Bogart
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The Frank Titman tribute at the NASG convention is underway. Hugh Sinn is wrangling that. He came over today and made a haul of my stuff. Contact Hugh if you have something you want to display. Contact me if you have something for SALE!!! J ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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NWSL J&L Tank, Yet Another Question
I do have another question for those who own one or more of these cars: I found one small brass part loose in the box (on the workbench beneath the car); I suspect it is supposed to represent a valve on the underframe center sill but cannot be certain.
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Most model J&L tank cars are painted wrong based on a builder’s photo since that are almost no known photos of it running in the wild. My car is painted wring – oh well.. I am not changing
it.
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Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
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See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: Locomotive Workshop Boxcar Restoration
One nit: I suspect the tack boards on the door should be swapped.
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I recently acquired a boxcar built from a Locomotive Workshop kit from Ed Loizeaux.? Ed isn't sure who originally assembled the car.? I upgraded it with parts from PRS,? added some detail, repainted it, lettered it with Tichy decals and weathered it with
pastels and acrylic 'rust'.? The third photo shows the car between an SHS boxcar (with Creco doors) and an AM boxcar (with a little added detail).? ?
I see on the NASG website there is a photo of an unassembled kit in the PRODUCT GALLERY which helps put in perspective how difficult these might have been to assemble, especially if there was any warpage in the 'flat' parts.? Ed suggested they were so hard
to assemble that no one ever built two!? Anyway, I'm happy to have a piece of S history refurbished and in operation on the BC&G.?
Can anyone shed any light on exactly what years these Locomotive Workshop kits were in production?? Are any unassembled kits known to exist?
Brooks Stover
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Re: Locomotive Workshop Boxcar Restoration
I bought a couple from Bob Werre within the past year.
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I recently acquired a boxcar built from a Locomotive Workshop kit from Ed Loizeaux.? Ed isn't sure who originally assembled the car.? I upgraded it with parts from PRS,? added some detail, repainted it, lettered it with Tichy decals and weathered it with
pastels and acrylic 'rust'.? The third photo shows the car between an SHS boxcar (with Creco doors) and an AM boxcar (with a little added detail).? ?
I see on the NASG website there is a photo of an unassembled kit in the PRODUCT GALLERY which helps put in perspective how difficult these might have been to assemble, especially if there was any warpage in the 'flat' parts.? Ed suggested they were so hard
to assemble that no one ever built two!? Anyway, I'm happy to have a piece of S history refurbished and in operation on the BC&G.?
Can anyone shed any light on exactly what years these Locomotive Workshop kits were in production?? Are any unassembled kits known to exist?
Brooks Stover
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Re: Western Pacific F Unit Gathering on the Sierra Northern
Kind of outside the scope?
If you have a model railroad you also may be on the ownership/management side?????? ? Stan
Bob is right. And sometimes a strike is the only instrument some employers will understand. Being a labour union's member by myself I've learned some things the hard way...
Heartful greetings from Middle Franconia, Hans
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Locomotive Workshop Boxcar Restoration
I recently acquired a boxcar built from a Locomotive Workshop kit from Ed Loizeaux.? Ed isn't sure who originally assembled the car.? I upgraded it with parts from PRS,? added some detail, repainted it, lettered it with Tichy decals and weathered it with pastels and acrylic 'rust'.? The third photo shows the car between an SHS boxcar (with Creco doors) and an AM boxcar (with a little added detail).? ?
I see on the NASG website there is a photo of an unassembled kit in the PRODUCT GALLERY which helps put in perspective how difficult these might have been to assemble, especially if there was any warpage in the 'flat' parts.? Ed suggested they were so hard to assemble that no one ever built two!? Anyway, I'm happy to have a piece of S history refurbished and in operation on the BC&G.?
Can anyone shed any light on exactly what years these Locomotive Workshop kits were in production?? Are any unassembled kits known to exist?
Brooks Stover
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Re: Western Pacific F Unit Gathering on the Sierra Northern
If you have a model railroad you also may be on the ownership/management side?????? ? Stan
Bob is right. And sometimes a strike is the only instrument some employers will understand. Being a labour union's member by myself I've learned some things the hard way...
Heartful greetings from Middle Franconia, Hans
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The recent thread on "JTT Corn" said they have "O" and "HO" and the "HO" is perhaps oversized.
I could find three MR articles about cornfields.? The astro turf and brass mentioned, and a plastic molded one.
Here they are with a photo from each article.
April 1993, pp 120-121 "An 'amaizing' way to model cornfields" (Uses artificial-turf doormat)
June 2002, pp 62-63 "Make your own brass cornfield" (Uses Alkem Scale Models HO-CR HO scale corn rows)
September 2006, pp 40-42 "Add a cornfield to your layout" (Uses Busch's plastic cornfield kit no. 1202)
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 04:33:56 AM PDT, Jim & Cheryl Martin <themartins@...> wrote:
Hi Bob. MR had an article many years ago on using the photo etched corn. Because you only get a few square inches of the brass stalks, the author painted a suggestion of corn on the backdrop and then planted two rows of the 3D corn in front. By using the corn in a long row instead of a small patch, the overall effect was very realistic.
Jim Martin
Several days ago we were shown a photo of a corn
field track-side.? I also had thoughts of something similar so I
bought some etched brass versions in HO.? I put them aside as I
put some thought into the scene--I guess it's been a dozen years
but the corn still hasn't been planted!?
So a few days ago I unearthed the two etched
sheets.? The supplier,? Alkem talks about 'planting' the stalks
by rows,? It seems they are HO and perhaps a bit short for even
that scale.? It does take some addition
work to refine things to make them acceptable.? The retail was
$13 for two sheets so my patch would also be small--maybe just
enough for small batch of Moon Shine!? I
remember some discussions regarding the seed suppliers
indicating smaller stalks translating into larger ears.? I
haven't picked any corn in many years so if you have some
acreage devoted to corn--help me/us!? Scan is attached.
Bob Werre
PS? The primary freight on Len Giovannoli"s
Kentucky layout was named "The Revenuer"? as he had come from
sour mash country!
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Bob Werre
Bill Lane
