Good to have that kind of machine shop and the skills to use it.? Very few commercial options otherwise.
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David, the drivers were turned and scale 110 tires pressed on. ?All Lionel TMCC stuff was taken out, WOW Steam decoder installed in the boiler. Lead pilot and trailing truck have AM scale wheel sets.
Steve
On Apr 15, 2025, at 16:41, David R. Henley Jr via groups.io <henley31c@...> wrote:
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Steve,
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David Henley
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O Scale West May 23 - 25 Update
O Scale West is on track for May 23 - 25! O Scale West include S scale and all gauges narrow gauge. Make your plans to come! There will be
the usual swap meet, clinics, contest, O Scale West's own company store, and
visits to the following local home and club layouts:
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Dave Adams D&RGW (On3)
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Bob Brown (On30, On3)
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California Central (HO)
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Matt Covington D&RGW (Sn3)
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Golden State Model Railroad Museum (O, On3, N, HO, HOn3)
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Don Harper D&RGW (Sn3)
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Jack Burgess' phenomenal HO model of the Yosemite Valley - last chance to see it
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Jakl Family Layout (O) in Mariposa, CA - call to schedule your visit
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Jim Dias' WP (HO)
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Rod Miller SP (O)
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Silicon Valley Lines (HO)
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South Bay Railroad Historical Society (HO, N)
Use the O Scale West web site to register on line for the meet and for hotel rooms.
Optionally you can contact the meet hotel, the Hyatt Regency Hotel, 5101 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054-1118. The phone number for national registration is 1-800-421-1442 or call the hotel direct at 1-408-200-1234 and ask for the O Scale West group rate of $169 plus tax per night. After May 4 the group rate may not be available! You can also use the?.
So plenty to do, make your plans to attend and register for now!
Questions? Email info@...
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My Great Northern Flyonel Mikado with proper decals.? River Raison Vanderbilt coal tender, all scale drivers and wheel sets.? A long Vanderbilt oil tender would be perfect, but this is close enough.
Steve Lunde
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I just emailed Rusty that I thought?it would look good?behind my USRA Light 4-6-2, but the last thing I need is more tenders...? ?I do have the drop equalized trucks for the original?tender behind it in the photo that will get used one of these days...
Bill Winans
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 4:36?PM John Hutnick via <johnhutnick= [email protected]> wrote: So unless other members can come up with suggestions, the answer seems to be that a modeler must have an Overland NYC H10 in order to use this B&A tender.
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The RRM Berk already comes with a B&A tender.? This is where we in S scale are handicapped by availability of any steam.
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We have had previous discussions of attracting more modelers to "S".? It appears that we must tell them to go look on Ebay.
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David, the drivers were turned and scale 110 tires pressed on. ?All Lionel TMCC stuff was taken out, WOW Steam decoder installed in the boiler. Lead pilot and trailing truck have AM scale wheel sets.
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On Apr 15, 2025, at 16:41, David R. Henley Jr via groups.io <henley31c@...> wrote:
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? ?Your Flyonel Mikado looks beautiful.? Great job!? I just have a couple of questions for you.? How did you get scale drivers on it?? Did you convert it to DC or is it still AC?
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David Henley
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So unless other members can come up with suggestions, the answer seems to be that a modeler must have an Overland NYC H10 in order to use this B&A tender.
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The RRM Berk already comes with a B&A tender.? This is where we in S scale are handicapped by availability of any steam.
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We have had previous discussions of attracting more modelers to "S".? It appears that we must tell them to go look on Ebay.
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Steve,
? ?Your Flyonel Mikado looks beautiful.? Great job!? I just have a couple of questions for you.? How did you get scale drivers on it?? Did you convert it to DC or is it still AC?
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David Henley
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I don't think so. The USRA Lt. Mikes on the NYC kept their original USRA tenders. I have seen photos of the USRA light Mikes as far east as Syracuse. And B&A Berks as far west as Syracuse. But I don't know if any USRA Mikes made it onto the B&A. For sure, the B&A had H5 Mikes. If you want to see what a H5 looks like in S scale, the June and September '94 issues of Mainline Modeler have scale drawings.?
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Brian Jackson
Springfield, IL
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If you want a B&A locomotive, then I suggest looking for a River Raisin Berkshire on the secondary market. River Raisin did an H10a and b back in the 90s. H10 #8000 or one of the 8 H10as for the B&A could be modeled easily using either this tender or the one with the RRM model originally.??
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So, could we put this tender behind a USRA Lt Mike from Overland? Is it close to something that the B&A has? Tommy?
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My Great Northern Flyonel Mikado with proper decals. ?River Raison Vanderbilt coal tender, all scale drivers and wheel sets. ?A long Vanderbilt oil tender would be perfect, but this is close enough.
Steve Lunde
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And where do we find an H-10 or H-5 loco?? For me, I am less theoretical, I don't care about stokers, etc.? How do I make a B&A engine with this tender?
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H-10s were used on the B&A until the Berks came along. Everyone knows the history of how the H10s led to the Berks, so I'll not repeat it.?
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This tender is awful close to the tenders used on hundreds of Central H5 Mikes and K-class Pacifics. The main difference is that it has an access door for the stoker auger. A lot of H5s did not receive stokers until well into their service lives and this door is therefore not present on the tenders.?
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Brian Jackson?
Springfield, IL
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My question is how do I use the B&A tender to make a B&A loco.? So far, it seems applicable to the Berk, if you happen to own one without a tender.? Does anyone have a tenderless H-10 for sale reasonable?
Any application where I buy a $250 BA tender and then strip it for something else does not seem reasonable.
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B&M attached for comparison.
Earl Tuson
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Recall that the 2-8-4 was Lima-designed, even marketed with a demonstrator. The basic tender is not unique to B&A; the B&M T-1a that followed shortly after used a tender of the same design, slightly elongated (two additional vertical sets of rivets between the coal bunker and the rear.) One could possibly, but perhaps not likely, find other uses among other contemporaneous Lima production.
I would be very surprised to discover it used on non-Lima locomotives, unless it was a tender swap.
Earl Tuson
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The tender is one of two versions that RR had for the B&A Berkshire's. I have no idea what it could be used for. I only have the foamed cardboard wrapper, no RR box. When I bought it Dan did not have box for it.
it has backup light with plug hanging out the front of the tender. Dan said the tender is DCC ready.
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Perhaps a J-1 Hudson?? Possibly an L-2 Mohawk?? So far as I know, no H-10's ever operated on the B&A, nor Niagara's.
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I'm pretty sure it was the Berkshire, one of the last RRM imports (C&O 4-6-2 with perhaps SP variant were probably the very last).
What locomotive did this come from?? And what existing brass loco could be paired with this as a B&A engine?
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I'm pretty sure it was the Berkshire, one of the last RRM imports (C&O 4-6-2 with perhaps SP variant were probably the very last).
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What locomotive did this come from?? And what existing brass loco could be paired with this as a B&A engine?
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Tom Lennon
