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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
Group,
For more background on the Gum Stump & Snowshoe railroad:
Model Railroader Magazine, September 1963, The Bellefonte & Snowshoe, a railroad planned for solo operation, by Chuck Yungkurth
Model Railroader Magazine, April 1966, Operations on the Gum Stump & Snowshoe, by Chuck Yungkurth
Model Railroader Magazine, August 1982, Hobby Lobby Layout (based on GS&S), by Dan Windolph
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Thank you,
Matt Hogan |
Re: Place you orders for flex track
Ed and Jeff are correct. ME will now market and sell the track they have always produced. The sale did not include any inventory, so they are now in the process of manufacturing new track over the next several months. You can support S scale by patronizing their business! Jim Whipple NASG President On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 8:52?PM JJundt via <cobramach1=[email protected]> wrote: I could be wrong but I was under the impression that Tomalco flex track has always been made by micro engineering. ME just didn¡¯t have the right to sell it direct even though they made it. Basically Tomalco subcontracted the production through ME. I¡¯m sure this is why it was logical that ME would just go ahead and purchase the rights to Tomalco flex since they already made it. |
Re: Place you orders for flex track
I could be wrong but I was under the impression that Tomalco flex track has always been made by micro engineering. ME just didn¡¯t have the right to sell it direct even though they made it. Basically Tomalco subcontracted the production through ME. I¡¯m sure this is why it was logical that ME would just go ahead and purchase the rights to Tomalco flex since they already made it.
This is no different than American Models having their molds at a manufacturing facility elsewhere, so while American Models owns the molds, they aren¡¯t the ones using them. That other company is the one that actually produces the American Models products for AM to sell. This is the same with Tomalco. ME is the one with the molds in hand that is manufacturing the flex track for Tomalco to sell. But Tomalco actually owned the molds. Cheers, Jeff J Michigan |
Re: Place you orders for flex track
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This is somewhat confusing.? I had thought ME produced the Tomalco track for Tomalco to sell.? Are they competing with their primary distributor?
Jace Kahn
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David McBrayer via groups.io <david.mcbrayer9@...>
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2025 5:32 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Place you orders for flex track ?
Thanks, Bill, for all your efforts.?
Dave McBrayer?
Auburn, CA?
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On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 13:46 Bill Lane via <bill=[email protected]> wrote:
-- Dave McBrayer Auburn, CA? |
Re: Place you orders for flex track
Thanks, Bill, for all your efforts.? Dave McBrayer? Auburn, CA? ¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 13:46 Bill Lane via <bill=[email protected]> wrote:
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Dave McBrayer Auburn, CA? |
Place you orders for flex track
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýForwarding Jon¡¯s email below. It is all 100% real now. ? Call 636-349-1112 or orders@...? ? Thank You, ? See my layout progress at:
? From: Jon microengineering.com [mailto:jon@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:52 PM To: Bill Lane Cc: BRIAN JACKSON; dan.mastro@... Subject: S Scale Flex Track. ? Bill, ? We now have the S Scale flex track in our system and are taking orders. The numbers and retail price are as follows; ? Un-weathered ? 10-142??????????????? Code 100? ??????? ?$75.00 for a bundle of 6 10-144 ??????????????? Code 83?? ????????? ?$75.00 for a bundle of 6 10-146 ??????????????? Code 70??????????? $75.00 for a bundle of 6 ? Weathered ? 12-142??????????????? Code 100???????? $78.00 for a bundle of 6 12-144??????????????? Code 83 ??????????? $78.00 for a bundle of 6 12-146??????????????? Code 70??????????? $78.00 for a bundle of 6????????? ? ? Pass the word and we will get to it before too long.????????????? ? Thank you, ? Jon Dwiggins Owner Micro Engineering Company 660-651-1931 (cell) 636-349-1112 (office) ? |
Re: S Scale switching layout plan
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One of the Hoboken Shore 44-tonners has been preserved by the NJ railroad historical group
Jace Kahn
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Scott via groups.io <repairman87@...>
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2025 4:29 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] S Scale switching layout plan ?
I thought the "Union Terminal" track plan by John Pryke would scale up to S Scale well.? It is in his book "Building City scenery".? My thought would to be to add an electric float bridge like they have in New York City with a small yard then into the
city.? I just got a 44 Tonner from Jace that would be the perfect locomotive for it.
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Scott McDonald?
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
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Just the ticket with a half-dozen idler flats to use across the float apron.? RMC has had several articles on waterfront railroading.??
I don't do urban themes (quite the contrary), but I have always been vaguely tempted by the set of Morning Sun books with all?
those tug and barge photos.
Jace Kahn
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Scott via groups.io <repairman87@...>
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2025 4:29 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] S Scale switching layout plan ?
I thought the "Union Terminal" track plan by John Pryke would scale up to S Scale well.? It is in his book "Building City scenery".? My thought would to be to add an electric float bridge like they have in New York City with a small yard then into the
city.? I just got a 44 Tonner from Jace that would be the perfect locomotive for it.
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Scott McDonald?
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
I thought the "Union Terminal" track plan by John Pryke would scale up to S Scale well.? It is in his book "Building City scenery".? My thought would to be to add an electric float bridge like they have in New York City with a small yard then into the city.? I just got a 44 Tonner from Jace that would be the perfect locomotive for it.
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Scott McDonald? |
Operations On A Smaller Layout
For anyone looking for a car routing scheme for a smaller layout, I have an article in the February 2025 Railroad Model Craftsman on the 'card draw and switch list' system I use on my BC&G.? The system has provided many hours of operating fun on a layout with limited switching 'spots'.
Brooks Stover |
Re: S Scale switching layout plan
I can attest that great fun can be had with relatively small footprints (especially when high-quality turnouts are used.)
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I hope those who have trains running will send to NASG for "layouts" section.
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Those not running yet -- whats the roadblock? Where can you get some help and get going?
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Mark Charles Ann Arbor, Mich. USA |
Re: S Scale switching layout plan
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý Bob McCarthy owned a layout (built by someone else) very similar to the Gumstump & Snowshoe; he brought it to a Savannah RPM many years ago and I took the attached photos of it :
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
I've always been fond of Chuck Yungkurth's Gum Stump & Snowshoe.? I was building an expanded version (2'x10') in HO before I switched to S.? My first S Scale railroad was an even greater expansion on the concept when I unfortunately had to tear it down to make way for some basement work. (Sorry no pictures exist of the S version...)
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Rich G(ajnak) |
Re: S Scale switching layout plan
I've long been fascinated by John Armstorng's Pratt Street Manfacturers' Railway, attached. ?Designed to fit 22-1/2" x 12' in O scale. Also check out Rob Chant's track planning blog: Charles Weston San Antonio
On Friday, March 7, 2025, 08:06:49 AM CST, JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...> wrote:
Perhaps the ultimate choice for me (if I ever get that far) is included in Arendt's book; having long owned a hard copy of it, I just picked up the CD for it at the local train show a week or two ago.
I have liked the idea since I first saw in the RMC issue back in the 1970's.
I believe the original Gumstump and Snowshoe was the late Chuck Yungkurth's rethinking of his friend Bill Livingstone's around the room single track point-to-point (whose name escapes me just now) which had appeared in MRR earlier.? Both are free-lanced from
the same geographic area as my fictional Ceres and Canisteo¡ªsouthwestern New York State and northwestern Pennsylvania, a short line also supported by lumbering traffic.
Jace Kahn
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim & Cheryl Martin <themartins@...>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 2:37 PM To: S-Scale Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] S Scale switching layout plan ?
Hi Tom
If you are looking for a small switching layout plan there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from. You didn't say how large a space you want to fill.
The easiest way to go is to find a prototype track drawing at a small location and simply copy it. That's what Tony Koester calls a Layout Design Element. In my case, the small end-of-branch at Port Dover,
Ontario appealed to me. See below. It ended at the Lake Erie shoreline and had only six turnouts. For space considerations, I combined the fish plant and coal dealer spurs into one. What you see below was removable from my layout and travelled thousands of
miles to dozens of train shows.? For all of it's simplicity, switching a train could take a half hour or more. Especially if done at prototypical speeds and using prototypical practices.?
Two good websites to check out are those of Lance Mindheim () and Carl Arendt (). Lance has written numerous articles about prototypically operating deceptively simple track layouts based on actual locations. His modelling and photography are superb.
I'm a big fan of tiny layouts and the late Carl Arendt built a massive website for micro and mini layouts. Even if you are not pressed for room, the problem-solving ideas in these clever plans are transferable
to larger spaces.
Cheers
Jim Martin.?
p.s. I too always had a hankering to build the Gumstump and Snowshoe.
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
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Perhaps the ultimate choice for me (if I ever get that far) is included in Arendt's book; having long owned a hard copy of it, I just picked up the CD for it at the local train show a week or two ago.
I have liked the idea since I first saw in the RMC issue back in the 1970's.
I believe the original Gumstump and Snowshoe was the late Chuck Yungkurth's rethinking of his friend Bill Livingstone's around the room single track point-to-point (whose name escapes me just now) which had appeared in MRR earlier.? Both are free-lanced from
the same geographic area as my fictional Ceres and Canisteo¡ªsouthwestern New York State and northwestern Pennsylvania, a short line also supported by lumbering traffic.
Jace Kahn
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim & Cheryl Martin <themartins@...>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 2:37 PM To: S-Scale Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] S Scale switching layout plan ?
Hi Tom
If you are looking for a small switching layout plan there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from. You didn't say how large a space you want to fill.
The easiest way to go is to find a prototype track drawing at a small location and simply copy it. That's what Tony Koester calls a Layout Design Element. In my case, the small end-of-branch at Port Dover,
Ontario appealed to me. See below. It ended at the Lake Erie shoreline and had only six turnouts. For space considerations, I combined the fish plant and coal dealer spurs into one. What you see below was removable from my layout and travelled thousands of
miles to dozens of train shows.? For all of it's simplicity, switching a train could take a half hour or more. Especially if done at prototypical speeds and using prototypical practices.?
Two good websites to check out are those of Lance Mindheim () and Carl Arendt (). Lance has written numerous articles about prototypically operating deceptively simple track layouts based on actual locations. His modelling and photography are superb.
I'm a big fan of tiny layouts and the late Carl Arendt built a massive website for micro and mini layouts. Even if you are not pressed for room, the problem-solving ideas in these clever plans are transferable
to larger spaces.
Cheers
Jim Martin.?
p.s. I too always had a hankering to build the Gumstump and Snowshoe.
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